I just stop going but keep renewing my AP - that'll show them!

Ummmm. It seems we've already done that.

It's Alex. He's an acquired taste.

I gotta say (taking Coaster Matt out of the equation) that I have to agree with you on this. I am in the "Disneyland is not a museum" camp.

You all can say what you please but for me the facts stand:

1. I have not renewed my annual pass since they crippled the teacups.

2. I will not purchase a new annual pass as long as the teacups are not free to spin.

Were there complaints about Splash Mountain? I don't recall any. Space Mountain also seems to have been greeted with general enthusiasm.

Alex's example of New Fantasyland met with zero bitching.

The people who complain about POOR changes at Disneyland are not advocating that it be a museum. I'm pretty sick of hearing that completely unfounded charge ... that I believe even the people making it know is full of sh!t.


Take a look at Mr. Lutz's update. There are photos of the America section of France's it's a small world. Note the competley generic, non-MaryBlair stylings of the cardboard cut-out sets. Now if WDI were to say we were getting those generic sets here in Anaheim, would that be an improvement? Would a complaint that they suck compared to the 1964 Mary Blair designs be calls for the Park to be a museum?

What, in fact, about the generic France it's a small world soundtrack that we were saddled with for over a decade? Was the restoration of the original World's Fair soundtrack an anachronism or was it an improvement?



Please don't insult our intelligence with those lame charges of museumification. Feel free to differ with our taste, but don't play those bullsh!t games with us of pretending we don't want anything in the Park to ever change.

Disneyland is not a museum, but why do Disney characters need to end up on IASW? Do something else, add more countries (besides America), and do it with quality. But "Disneyfying" the ride by adding Disney characters to it is silly.

And it is not the reason I am not renewing my AP when it expires in 2 weeks. ;)

Sorry, but I am sick of people bitching about changes, especially before they are seen! Yes, Al has a fairly good track record, but there is also a history of seeing people bitching about any and most every change. I am not going to name names, but I have seen it happen over and over again.

Change can be good. I LIKE the latest additions to PotC. I waited until I saw them to make my judgements. And I will do the same with iasw. It may be an interesting update.

Is it, in fact, possible to to disagree with a change to an attraction and not be accused of wanting Disneyland to be a museum? The word "purist" is also being used as if it's somehow a bad thing to not want parasites in one's glass of water.

I definitely disagree with the idea of inserting Disney Characters into the attraction, and I'm going to have to revisit this thread to post why. I'm way too sinusy and harumphy to write anything comprehensible right now.

I have to agree with Cheeseman; I appreciate all kinds of change to the park, and have very much enjoyed the updates to Pirates, Submarines, etc etc etc. But I very much like IASW the way it is and don't really understand they would choose to add the characters OR focus on America.

re: the changes to POTC, I don't mind the first two Jack AA's, and while I miss the dark tunnel and its voiceover, I'll even admit to liking the Davy Jones addition. But they screwed with the ride's soundtrack, which bugs the crap out of me and removes a great deal of the nostalgia factor. Yo Ho, Yo Ho, A Pirate's Life For Me is so iconic in part because it was repeated as a theme throughout the entire attraction. Now it's been reduced to only being played at the very beginning, and to future audiences will seem a weak nod to something young Miss Swann was singing at the beginning of the first film, rather than the ultimate Disney pirate shanty.

And I'm still mad about the rainforest. As a kid I was uber impressed with the rain effect. And I love the sparkly gator. I hope they at least place him somewhere else in the attraction.