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scaeagles 08-07-2008 12:14 PM

I am also wondering how this compares to Obama changing his positions to move toward the center and if that's acceptable.

innerSpaceman 08-07-2008 12:25 PM

It's not acceptable to me. I frelling hate Obama right about now.

Alex 08-07-2008 12:49 PM

I'm fine with it. It moves him a bit closer to me on several policy issues and I still like him as a candidate, leader, and being a clean break from the current institution of political power families.

McCain's changes just move him farther away from me on many of the issues he has changed on. And while Obama's changes may move him farther from the political center of his party towards the political center of the country, McCain's are moving him from the political center of the country towards the political center of his party.

But I don't really think that either candidate has done nearly so much flip flopping as opponents enjoy pretending. They just stop allowing for any nuance of position and call it a flip flop.

Alex 08-07-2008 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman (Post 230699)
It's not acceptable to me. I frelling hate Obama right about now.

But you never liked him much to begin with. It wasn't that long ago that you were saying if Clinton didn't get the nomination you might vote for McCain.

innerSpaceman 08-07-2008 01:22 PM

Exactly, which is why I very much dislike him now.


Alas, McCain has moved even further from my happy place.






Nader's on the ballot in California. I might vote for him. He might have become as untenable in his old age as McCain has in his ... but Nader hasn't got a chance, so I wouldn't have to worry about that. Obama has California locked up, so I might just vote my (past-tense) conscience and vote for Nader again (I picked him over Gore, too).

Gemini Cricket 08-07-2008 02:31 PM

Paris responds to McCain's Celebrity ad

Okay, I can't stand her. But this is pretty funny. Snaps to her for being funny.
:)

Pirate Bill 08-07-2008 03:00 PM

Only my reptilian brain has found Paris sexy. And even though I know her "energy policy" was scripted, she actually sounded intelligent and... human. For a minute there at least. And now, I... I think I'm in love.

She's got my vote, 'cuz that ad was hot.

Ghoulish Delight 08-07-2008 03:01 PM

She's a good actress. Her SNL appearance proved that.

wendybeth 08-07-2008 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles (Post 230697)
I am also wondering how this compares to Obama changing his positions to move toward the center and if that's acceptable.

As a moderate, I'm good with a candidate who's not too far right or left. So, Obama's moves aren't nearly as annoying as McCain's, who would be much better off if he stuck to his earlier, more central stance.

JWBear 08-07-2008 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by wendybeth (Post 230780)
As a moderate, I'm good with a candidate who's not too far right or left. So, Obama's moves aren't nearly as annoying as McCain's, who would be much better off if he stuck to his earlier, more central stance.

Agreed.


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