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BDBopper 09-01-2008 06:25 PM

Add to the list of Celebrity Republicans - Jon Voight

JWBear 09-01-2008 11:35 PM

Yes, thankfully the disaster in New Orleans is over; but the disaster that is the McCain campaign is still blundering along.....

scaeagles 09-02-2008 04:57 AM

Hmmmm.....not according to polls out there. If McCain's camp is in such disarray, it would seem that Obama would have a huge and commanding lead.

JWBear 09-02-2008 09:00 AM

Polls are becoming increasingly meaningless. Even the mainstream media (which, contrary to the "liberal" label, is very conservative leaning) is starting to turn on him.

BarTopDancer 09-02-2008 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles (Post 236652)
Hmmmm.....not according to polls out there. If McCain's camp is in such disarray, it would seem that Obama would have a huge and commanding lead.

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Originally Posted by JWBear (Post 236694)
Polls are becoming increasingly meaningless. Even the mainstream media (which, contrary to the "liberal" label, is very conservative leaning) is starting to turn on him.

I think it was Alex who brought up that polling is no longer that accurate. The demographic that would be showing Obama to have a larger lead no longer have landlines and it's illegal to poll cell phone numbers.

scaeagles 09-02-2008 09:08 AM

I guess the label is in the eye of the beholder, and I'm certain we could each spout example after example to support our particular view of the media, but I certainly do not concur with your assessment of a conservative leaning media.

innerSpaceman 09-02-2008 09:33 AM

Can we perhaps agree that, considering Conservatives see a liberal media and Liberals see a conservative media, that the actual "media" is neither or both, but certainly not exclusively or even primarily either?

JWBear 09-02-2008 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman (Post 236713)
Can we perhaps agree that, considering Conservatives see a liberal media and Liberals see a conservative media, that the actual "media" is neither or both, but certainly not exclusively or even primarily either?

The problem with your theory is that I consider myself to be a moderate, not a liberal. And if moderates see the press as leaning to the right, then... Well....

scaeagles 09-02-2008 10:00 AM

I often think that where one ranks onesself on the political spectrum is different than where others might. If I considered myself to be moderate, it doesn't make it so, it is just an issue of how I define conservative, moderate, and liberal.

JWBear 09-02-2008 10:14 AM

Very true. To some, I would be a liberal; but only because they have shifted to the right, while I have stood still.

I'm fiscally conservative, in that I believe in lower taxes for the middle class and the poor and a prudent tax plan for the wealthy and businesses; along with prudent government spending and the reduction of our national debt. The Republican plan is to tax the middle class to death, huge tax cuts to big corporations and the wealthiest 1%, bloated military spending, and borrowing vast amounts from the Chinese. To me (and the last eight years support this), this is a fiscal disaster in the making. The Republican Party, and John McCain are advocating more of the same. Why would a fiscal conservative vote for this?


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