I agree with you on the "openness"/size factor on Elizabeth vs. Mary. It seems that quite a few people who sailed on both liked Elizabeth better, maybe for that very reason?

Dude! Speaking of America, I checked around a few months ago to find recent American Star wreck photos, and learned that the fore portion completely collapsed and is now under water. It had been a long time since I'd bothered to look (depressing!), but I was stunned nonetheless. I guess it's a good thing. I decided to stay away from the Blue Lady melee so I wouldn't get sucked into that slow-grind, either, although I understand there were mercifully fewer photos documenting the crap going down at Alang because people were all upons about Greenpeace ruining business with sekrit fotoze.

I LOVE THE VERANDAH GRILLE! I would make it my officelairbatcaveclubhouse if i could. There is something creepy and claustrophobic about the first class pool, though. Not that it would have been any less claustrophobic (very likely moreso), but the tourist class pool had the cute fishy glass next to it, and cute fishy glass is attractive to me.

The Elizabeth's First Class pool was only one deck high. The Mary's is better.

I can't remember what Elizabeth's cabin class pool looks like!

For some reason, however, the images I've seen of Mary's tourist class pool, as low-ceilinged and stuck-in-the-afterbowels-of-the-ship as it was, seems more appealing than the dual-deck first class pool. It may just been the ghost tour lighting and crap that turns me off, I don't know.

I couldn't find a picture online, but I'll check through my books later.

Here are some comparisons of other rooms on the 2 ships:

First Class Main lounge:

Queen Mary:

Queen Elizabeth:


First Class Smoking Room:

Mary:

Elizabeth:


First Class Dining Room:

Mary:

Elizabeth:

Main Hall:

Mary:

Elizabeth:


Observation Bar:

Mary:

Elizabeth:


Verandah Grill:

Mary:

Elizabeth:

"There's got to be a morning after....."

Welcome!! :cheers:

I want that QM color interior-photo book! That and the gold-cover interior paintings book, too, which is always too expensive for me to buy when I find it.

I love that cabin class foyer picture for Elizabeth; I just found a similar shot in my Dover interiors book. The height is amazing, which makes the sconce lighting very dramatic, like in a big soundstage set - Mary's foyer (and the Prom deck shops in the picture you included for comparison to Elizabeth's) can't match that, nor the sheer breadth of the floorspace. It's amazing to see how similar many of the other analogous spaces really are, though, size aside.

I can't find any photos of the Queen Elizabeth's pool, either; ton of both Mary pools, though. I thought the James Steele book might have comparison photos, but no; it was another book. It does have photos documenting a flambe-in-progress in the QM cabin class dining salon, though. Sunday brunch needs schtick like that. xD

PS - The Observation Bar looks hella tighter in the postwar reds.

I shoulda seen that one coming. :p Somebody get the Christmas tree ready...

thanks for the welcome, belleh. :D

Welcome!