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Alex 09-18-2009 03:20 PM

That may be, though as presented by him today he seems to think (though of course what the creator of something thinks s/he's doing and what s/he's really doing are frequently divergent) it is making a case for his vision of how things could be. His closing remarks were that he hopes at the end of the movie everybody is so fired up that they go out and get involved and make it happen.

innerSpaceman 09-18-2009 03:27 PM

I wouldn't mind if audiences were fired up enough to light fire to torches and grab some pitchforks. What happens afterwards will likely be the same (meet the new boss) ... but I've always wondered what kind of society would result if greedy and corrupt fvckwads were annually tarred and feathered and run out of town on a razor wire. Would the new boss continually be same as the old boss ... or would a niche eventually develop for ungreedy and noncorrupt people in positions of power?

Alex 09-18-2009 03:42 PM

Well, the first problem is that it generally isn't the ungreedy upset by the greedy--I'm sure someone will say "not true" but I don't think "greed" and "self interest first" can be separated--and the losers are upset at the winners and simply want the tables turned.

I come from poor people. They aren't sitting around saying "oh how terrible it is that there are poor people and we aren't all socioeconomically equal." Generally it is "how do I get myself a bigger piece of the pie." I'd say that's why people are so often amazed at the poor and powerless seeming to vote against their interests. It isn't that they want the separation between the powerful and the powerless removed, they just want to change categories.

The unusual thing about America is the general belief (right or more often wrong) that they will do just that.

scaeagles 09-18-2009 04:20 PM

Breifly (as I have not much time right now), if those are the policies of Fortis, then I would regard them as a "bad" organization. And fortunately, they are paying the price. Sadly, legal actions take a long time and the loss of life could occur, which is reprehensible. Which is why I wish the judgement had been 100 million rather than 10 million. If it is certainly not worth their financial interest to violate their agreements perhaps they will stop doing so.

JWBear 09-18-2009 05:04 PM

I just found out that my Representative (a Democrat) voted to defund ACORN. I'm going to send her a very strongly worded email. I'm pissed.

Alex 09-18-2009 05:54 PM

press the Bill of Attainder argument.

€uroMeinke 09-18-2009 07:16 PM

My friend Andrew was in a band called Acorn. I think they were big in Italy for awhile. I don't think they had anything to do with child prostitutes or denying insurance claims.

Betty 09-18-2009 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by €uroMeinke (Post 299380)
My friend Andrew was in a band called Acorn. I think they were big in Italy for awhile. I don't think they had anything to do with child prostitutes or denying insurance claims.

How about squirrels?

€uroMeinke 09-18-2009 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Betty (Post 299385)
How about squirrels?

That was another band

3894 09-20-2009 06:50 AM

Dumping Bush's border fence would buy a whole lot of public option insurance.


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