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Gemini Cricket 09-21-2009 02:51 PM

The people that act like there's no racism in our country tick me off. And if one has never experienced something it doesn't mean that something doesn't exist.
My 2 cents.

Gn2Dlnd 09-21-2009 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles (Post 299648)
So you endorse using cries of racism as a political tool?

I do?

I thought I simply expressed a desire to see the political discourse in the country become a little better mannered. Racist me, keepin' down the white man.

JWBear 09-21-2009 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Gn2Dlnd (Post 299658)
I do?

I thought I simply expressed a desire to see the political discourse in the country become a little better mannered. Racist me, keepin' down the white man.

Remember... If a Republican does something bad, it's a Democrat's fault.

innerSpaceman 09-21-2009 03:32 PM

I used to assume most Californians were not homophobes, because I never encountered any. A certain election proved me wrong.


Don't let your limited personal experience persuade you racism in America is dead. Pfft.

scaeagles 09-21-2009 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Gn2Dlnd (Post 299658)
I do?

I thought I simply expressed a desire to see the political discourse in the country become a little better mannered. Racist me, keepin' down the white man.

It was a genuine question.

You had said you hoped people were so afraid of being called racists they wouldn't oppose the President. The only reason they would have that fear is if a charge of racism was a used and accepted political tool when no racism exists.

scaeagles 09-21-2009 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JWBear (Post 299662)
Remember... If a Republican does something bad, it's a Democrat's fault.

And when a democrat does something wrong, it's right wing conspiracy.

JWBear 09-21-2009 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles (Post 299667)
And when a democrat does something wrong, it's right wing conspiracy.

Damn right! ;)

wendybeth 09-21-2009 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JWBear (Post 299654)
Yes, there was vitriol directed at Bush. But, as I have pointed out before, they were mostly directed at what he had actually done. The vitriol directed at Obama is of a whole different order. Not only are they protesting over things that Obama hasn't done or has no intention of doing (Sending conservatives to concentration camps?! WTF?), but they are doing so in near violent paranoid delusional manner.

Most of the silly claims against Bush just caused me to roll my eyes. The things these birthers and teabaggers come up with truely frighten me.

Delude yourself that these are merely mild mannered conservatives protesting Obama's "spendthrift" policies all you want. Their signs and shouts tell a different story.

JW summed up my intended response perfectly. The Great Deciderer and his cronies pushed the war, deregulation, changed the rules on enemy combatants, denied due process to citizens of this country, and........bloody hell, the list goes on forever. Most of the people who are so angry right now are angry at the wrong person, but Obama knew when he took office this would happen. I don't remember too many elected officials disrespecting the President when he addressed the House, or inciting people to violence or talk of secession. They also manipulated terror warnings for political gain- That was the reason for the Goering statement by Byrd, and if you have a problem with that, then go talk to Tom Ridge. People are so pissed at what Obama might do, when they should be furious at what GW did do.

scaeagles 09-21-2009 06:58 PM

I'm angry at a 787 billion dollar stimulus. So yeah, there's anger at things he has done. And anger at things he says he wants to do.

I find it a bit scarier that people accused Bush of planning 9/11 than anything anyone has accused Obama of thus far. And last I checked....Bush didn't plan it.

Strangler Lewis 09-21-2009 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex (Post 299636)
Yes. It is a lie (if my suspicion is correct, just because I think he is motivated by X doesn't mean I'm right; though I always am). But it is both a politic and a political lie.

In the same category as how you answer "do these pants make me look fat?".

In short, it's a white lie.


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