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Alex 01-20-2010 01:28 PM

Now that's just slanderous hyperbole.

If you wanted people to get sick and die it would only be people without income, or with insufficient income, that you'd want to get sick and die.

Of course, you don't want people to get sick and die. However, if people do get sick you are accept that access to money or certain employment will be a key factor in their attempt to avoid death (or remediation of sickness).

But that's fine, since support of a free market (or mostly free market) health care system is one of pragmatism. That despite individual harm, it is does more good overall than the alternative.

At core, I'm ok with this as well. However, my view is that this will be on the losing side of history. So, since my core view is unlikely to prevail I'd rather have the best option of the other side rather than a mishmash of things that is likely to make things worse individually and collectively.

sleepyjeff 01-20-2010 01:29 PM

Just outlaw ALL Health insurance and watch the prices fall......(I know, I know, too easy;) )

JWBear 01-21-2010 09:32 AM

All hail our new corporate overlords!


scaeagles 01-21-2010 10:23 AM

I was exceptionally happy about portions of McCain/Feingold being overturned.

JWBear 01-21-2010 10:32 AM

Why?

scaeagles 01-21-2010 10:52 AM

I've long thought them to be unconstitutional. I view it as restrictive of free speech. It specifically banned groups from run ads mentioning specific candidates within 60 days of an election. They could be corporations, advocacy groups, me and my freakin' neighbor pooling our money, whatever. I think that's wrong.

Gemini Cricket 01-21-2010 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JWBear (Post 312405)

You know, I've always felt they were our overlords anyway.

Big business owns the media... etc etc etc.



In related news, I have never been more disinterested in the news, politics and government in my whole life than I am at this very moment.

Alex 01-21-2010 12:01 PM

I too do not approve of McCain Feingold or any other limitations on my ability to participate in the political process by use of my own money.

I have no problem with saying that only human individuals are allowed to participate in the process and am fine with barring institutions from financial involvement. But if I want to put my entire salary and effort behind getting my convenience store clerk elected to the U.S. Senate I do believe that should be my right.

Haven't yet read the news to see what parts were overturned.

flippyshark 01-21-2010 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket (Post 312416)
In related news, I have never been more disinterested in the news, politics and government in my whole life than I am at this very moment.

Then why'd ya click on this thread, huh? ;)

Gemini Cricket 01-21-2010 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flippyshark (Post 312430)
Then why'd ya click on this thread, huh? ;)

To post what I wrote. Then I saw JW's flag picture. I often do not read everything in this thread.
:)


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