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Ghoulish Delight 04-02-2010 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex (Post 319320)
I'd be curious to know what had been discussed earlier in the show, perhaps something about how everybody who opposes HCR is lumped in with violent right-wing terrorists. I'm sure he meant "these people who the left would call Tim McVeigh wannabes in a shotgun blast attempt to discredit them..." but yeah, it makes for a horrible soundbite.

I don't know if he brought it up earlier in the interview, but he apparently did on the radio the day before, and certainly did mean just that. But man, throw some air-quotes in there or something if you're going to use it like that.

Alex 04-02-2010 10:55 AM

Yeah, and while I don't condone presenting a clip as saying something you reasonably know it doesn't, Sean Hannity is hardly in a position of purity to bitch if people do it to him.

alphabassettgrrl 04-03-2010 10:40 AM

The problem with using irony in politics is that some people don't get the joke....

And when you're talking about blowing things up, or reloading in a gun context, that can get ugly.

Morrigoon 04-12-2010 03:51 PM

I'm not sure Poizner's ads are having the effect he intends with them. I was feeling kinda negative on Meg Whitman, then he runs ads accusing her of not being Republican enough. Sounds like a selling point to me. And definitely sets me up against him. He's obviously forgotten that in a close race you need to appeal to moderates.

Ghoulish Delight 04-12-2010 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Morrigoon (Post 320172)
I'm not sure Poizner's ads are having the effect he intends with them. I was feeling kinda negative on Meg Whitman, then he runs ads accusing her of not being Republican enough. Sounds like a selling point to me. And definitely sets me up against him. He's obviously forgotten that in a close race you need to appeal to moderates.

She's running the same line against him, but cherry-picking a different set of votes than he is. This is for the primaries, they need to get the support of their party to get the opportunity to court moderates. "I'm more republican" is the way to do that.

Alex 04-12-2010 05:26 PM

I'm very much against Meg Whitman and Poizner's view on how to handle illegal immigration is horrible and, in my opinion, disqualifying.

Not too keen on Jerry Brown again (he didn't impress me when he was my mayor). But California is so broken that the only way I can see any tough choices being made is for one party to control the legislature and governorship. Yeah, they may drive us off the cliff but we're already going over and the current situation just gives both sides the incentive to prefer inaction over letting the other side win any point.

Ghoulish Delight 04-14-2010 02:11 PM

:mad:

Whaddya think Arizona, should hispanics who are here legally start wearing sombrero-shaped patches on their clothes so bus drivers know who they can pick up without fear of legal action?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010...migration-laws

innerSpaceman 04-14-2010 02:16 PM

Round 'em all up, and sort out the rest later. We'll show them to demographic us out of our privileged majority status.

Alex 04-14-2010 02:23 PM

Considering that there is no legal requirement to carry evidence of citizenship with you, how would a lack of documentation be evidence of being here illegally?

Maybe this is how certain portions of the right finally come to support a national identification card with requirements that it be carried at all times.

innerSpaceman 04-14-2010 02:32 PM

As I understand it, Alex, the Arizona law requires everyone in the state to carry documentary proof of citizenship.


That would seem to run afoul of, oh, I dunno, the Constitution. And perhaps I'm misinformed about the law -- I haven't read it, just reports. But those reports make internal sense -- otherwise, as you point out, the law is entirely unenforceable.

Which I wouldn't mind at all.


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