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TigerLily 09-17-2005 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Motorboat Cruiser
I don't see a reason for it either, quite frankly. I would be interested in hearing other posters feelings as to why the pledge is necessary at all.


I don't think it's neccessary. It reminds of a cult chanting everytime I hear it. I refused to say it in school, refused to have my hand on my chest and refused to stand until I was forced to.

SacTown Chronic 09-17-2005 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by €uroMeinke
I just don't see why we need a pledge in ths first place - none-the-less have it recited by people too young to understand it, or even commit to it's ideals. Loyalty oaths are worthless, let's dump this one in its entirety.

My sentiments exactly.

Prudence 09-17-2005 02:48 PM

I think I already went on record against the daily chant by school children. I'm also against singing the national anthem before every event. I think the mass chant becomes a rote activity devoid of meaning. How many times have you seen "funny" videos of kids misunderstanding the words of the pledge? Or people forgetting the words to the national anthem? This deprives these rituals of their full power. They should be recited/sung in situations that are appropriate to their intrinsic solemnity.

And if I may be permitted to argue in the alternative: indoctrination is appropriate for church, not for government. In history class, students wonder why people under various regimes -- pick your favorite -- didn't "do something." I don't think we should give the impression that our country is always right, or that we stand behind our country (and its symbols) come what may.

Kevy Baby 09-17-2005 03:18 PM

I pledge allegiance to the Swank
of the Lounge of Tomorrow board
And to the irreverance for which it stands
One Swankdom, under Chris (and Fej and GD)
With Silliness and Mojo for all.

Not Afraid 09-17-2005 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevy Baby
I pledge allegiance to the Swank
of the Lounge of Tomorrow board
And to the irreverance for which it stands
One Swankdom, under Chris (and Fej and GD)
With Silliness and Mojo for all.

Why am I always forgotten¿ Out here in Chicago the homeless call me Biq Red!

Prudence 09-17-2005 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevy Baby
With Silliness and Mojo for all.

But more for me!

PanTheMan 09-17-2005 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerLily
I don't think it's neccessary. It reminds of a cult chanting everytime I hear it. I refused to say it in school, refused to have my hand on my chest and refused to stand until I was forced to.


Well, the main point is that it shouldnt even be an issue. Don't you remember back when you said it? It was just part of the morning routine, and it was said so mechanically, for years I thought I was saying something about being invisible with liberty and Justice for all.

I was busy during that time admiring how Cute Jennifer McHugh was that morning....lol

MickeyLumbo 09-17-2005 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by PanTheMan
Well, the main point is that it shouldnt even be an issue. Don't you remember back when you said it? It was just part of the morning routine, and it was said so mechanically, for years I thought I was saying something about being invisible with liberty and Justice for all.

I was busy during that time admiring how Cute Jennifer McHugh was that morning....lol

Totally agree - except his name wasn't Jennifer;)

PanTheMan 09-18-2005 08:40 PM

lol ;)

were you looking at me Bum?.....lol


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