And I have access to libs who spew hate and nasty terms at conservatives. It cuts both ways and to pretend that one kind of "hate" is more righteous than another is dishonest. (on edit to say I am not calling anyone out for this)

I guarantee you that should I bring over some of those "hate" comments- most of you would agree with them-and some of the things you call "hate" from the conservatives would be nothing of the sort for me or Leo. It's a matter of perception, and frankly, I don't think your perception is more valid than mine.

ISM however just cuts right to it doesn't he.

(I want a small appliance- maybe a waffle maker?) ;)

ooooh, makes me all squishy :p

No exit strategy

Heh - In fact we all believe our own percption is the most valid (I think to think otherwise might border on insanity) - thus we go round and round - all of us righteous in our own valid way. I hate you all.

€uro is right- we all think our own perception is the valid one. While I am glad one has to go off-site to locate vicious liberal statements, I will say I am not comfortable with any hate-speak, no matter what the source. It's one thing to say the Prez is an idiot, quite another to wish him or his cohorts bodily harm or to start making up silly little derogatory catch-phrases, although I understand the temptation, especially when one has so very much to work with.:D

This thread wasn't intended to be about hate; it's about anger. I understand that they sometimes seem interchangeable, but they're not. At least not for me. Anger can be a wonderful motivator. Without anger people would never quit sh*tty jobs or divorce worthless assholes.

I read the body count out of the paper
and now it's written all over my face


I've recently started noticing that reports of the atrocities in Iraq weren't always pissing me off as per usual. Weary resignation is more often the order of the day now. And that bothers me. I have basically two speeds when it comes to political issues: Anger or apathy. And the thought of being apathetic about war causes me to worry for my soul.


And that's what this thread is about. I'm angry at this adminstration for slowly stealing my anger and replacing it with a nasty apathy/despair virus. Of course that's what they want - always, since the dawn of time - leaders thrive on apathy. Apathy feeds the beast.

I don't want to be beast food. I want my precious anger back.

It's hatred and fear that have brought things to their present state. Truth be told, it's probably more the manipulation of hate and fear that enables the current status quo. I agree with you wholeheartedly, Sac, and apathy frightens me as well. That means acceptance, and......well, history is full of examples of what that means.

Now that I've been watching Arrested Development - all I can think about is White Power Bill...

A good bout of anger is a good thing once in a while, I just don't want to live that way all of the time. Unfortunately, we have potentially another 3 years of anger-inducing material to draw on....if not more.

You made the baby Jesus cry!