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scaeagles 05-29-2009 09:28 PM
All an issue of perspective. We can alway splay tit for tat with this politican of this party did this or this politician of that party did that.

In the same way the progressives and democrats are not the same, conservatives and republicans are not the same.

Morrigoon 05-30-2009 01:54 AM
I'm concerned about the impact this will have on my planned camping trip this fall. Is there a list somewhere of which parks will make the cut?

innerSpaceman 05-30-2009 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by CoasterMatt (Post 285361)
Before I'd recall Schwarzenegger, I'd go after that - dare I say it, I'd go about removing that clause before I'd go after removing prop 8. (I want both things to happen, but I'd give more priority to removing the 2/3 vote to pass a budget first).
Yes, we need both, and even I daresay we need the to remove the 2/3 vote more importantly than add protections to prevent a future prop 8 scenario. But since we desperately need BOTH, I hope the nacent movement for a full-blown Constitutional Convention picks up steam ... and I'm going to put my activist muscle towards that goal.

JWBear 05-30-2009 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by €uroMeinke (Post 285355)
Hmmm....So how does one enforce a closed park if you lay off the people who run it?
Many of the parks that are closing are historic sites, not traditional "parks". I fear that if they are simply shuttered and abandoned, they will fall victim to vandalism.

JWBear 05-30-2009 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Morrigoon (Post 285387)
I'm concerned about the impact this will have on my planned camping trip this fall. Is there a list somewhere of which parks will make the cut?
Here

€uroMeinke 05-30-2009 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by JWBear (Post 285407)
Many of the parks that are closing are historic sites, not traditional "parks". I fear that if they are simply shuttered and abandoned, they will fall victim to vandalism.
Yes but what if we are the vandals?

Ghoulish Delight 05-30-2009 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by JWBear (Post 285267)
We're only talking about $70 million. That's only .29% of the budget shortfall (and about .01% of the total state budget)! This is an unnescessary cut that will do nothing to solve the problem!
A bit of devils advocate - the budget shortfall is in excess of $40 billion dollars. EVERY single program that can be cut can be defended with the, "It's only a drop in the bucket anyway!" argument. There is no single place to cut that amounts to any large portion of the problem. The only way to proceed is to cut lots of small bits.

I'm not saying there aren't other good arguments against this move, but that particular one doesn't hold water.

Gn2Dlnd 05-30-2009 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by €uroMeinke (Post 285421)
Yes but what if we are the vandals?
What I really like here is the banner picture at the top of the page.

Morrigoon 05-30-2009 02:04 PM
Cr@p.... it's on the cut list.

lashbear 05-30-2009 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Morrigoon (Post 285448)
Cr@p.... it's on the cut list.
:(

To quote Arnie in his next election movie:
"I won't be back"


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