... or the War on Drugs for that matter.


As for librarian flap. I think Palin loses that one. So she didn't actually request that books be removed, but then tried to get the librarian fired when she was told there was no way to do that? Um, that seems to be Palin's M.O. Her brother-in-law, her brother-in-law's boss.

(hmmm, not unlike the treatment certain generals received in Ghoulish Delight's excellent Iraq post above.)




Palin makes me ill.

It does seem she has a record of I don't like you and/or the choices you've made, so I'm going to have you fired. Sounds like a boss we'd all be venting about.

I was reading it this morning and found it an interesting time warp. A pre-war discussion on MousePad about Iraq with many people here laying out their early views on the matter (though it eventually devolved into a "patriotism" pissing match).

iSm is really the only one opposing the war on the simple ground that Iraq and Saddam Hussein was of absolutely no real threat to the United States.

GD opposes on geopolitical grounds but did say

Lots of others.

Unfortunately, I didn't post in the thread (which is what I was looking for; examples of me expressing my pre-war view of things so that I could check against my memory).

This all then leads to what people believe was deliberate misleading or falsification of intelligence by Bush. While it is true that the intelligence was bad, I do not believe it was intentionally falsified, which is the major argument of those who were for "doing something" now base their opposition on.

Here's what I posted towards the end of the thread:
Nerd!
:D

[derail]Jeepers H. Crackers! That thread was started almost 6 freakin' years ago! Gak! I've been a discussion board geek for over 7 years.[/derail]

Wow, I had some good points.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ibnuyusuf/1271119853/


Fierce fighting lasted for 10 plus years followed by sporadic fights and riots right up into the late 1980's...........now this Nation is one of if not the most powerful economy in SE Asia.

I don't think I've said anything since inconsistent with my statements there. I said we were in Afghanistan for legitimate reasons and were turning our attention toward Iraq for illegitimate reasons.

I still think Saddam was someone that needed to be dealt with, but that was not the way to go about doing so. "Do something to nip it in the bud" never equated to military aggression in my mind.

I'm a little appalled at myself for suggesting assassination.

The Senate Intelligenc Committe disagrees with your belief.

Okay, so there's just a small sample of the willful misleading of the public. Ah, I can hear you say, but what of the Congress members who saw the itnelligence and drew their own conclusions? Surely they could not have been duped...

This is just he summary report. It rather bleakly shows a concerted effort to justify war, not to collect facts. It shows that Congress did not just see faulty information and come to the same faulty conclusion, they were fed a distorted picture of the intelligence, purposefully shielded from the full picture, and willfully influenced by Cheney and the Pentagon into drawing conclusions that weren't even supported by the bad intelligence.

All from a President who, almost 2 years before 9/11, was sitting in cabinet meetings talking about finding a way to depose Saddam.

Zero credibility.

It wasn't my intention to imply that you have. I was just differentiating your position opposing the war from iSm's and highlighting the more substantive positions stakes out there by people now here.

Well, I didn't participate in any discussions here back then but I was one of many silent masses who didn't say peep about our invasion of Iraq. While I was pretty sure Hussein had nothing to do with 9/11, I was also pretty tired of his flouting of UN requests to inspect his nuclear facilities, and I felt like it was OK for us to step in and stop the bully.

Of course, I was also still relatively pro-Bush at the time.

I just chose to keep listening to talk radio and dismiss the anti-war people as kooks and hippies.

Boy was I wrong.