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Alex 12-13-2010 02:08 PM

Without a mandate it doesn't work at all. Since if insurer's can't reject for prior conditions, and there are price controls, then the lack of a mandate means the smart thing to do is just wait until you get sick and then go buy insurance.

Personally, I'd say the best way to handle this constitutional issue (if it remains one, a district court judge isn't going to be the final say by a long shot and undoing this law could be difficult without the court undoing a lot of settled law around the commerce clause) is:

Option A
You make buying health insurance optional with all the existing provisions for subsidy and whatnot. And you say "and hospitals will no longer receive any federal reimbursement for care provided to uninsured individuals. It is legal to let these people die in your parking lot since they chose to not get insurance."

Option B
If it is indeed constitutional for states to have a mandate (and is there any challenge still standing to the constitutionality of Massachusetts mandate)? Then the federal government sets up the framework and runs it through states where getting any piece of the federal healthcare pie requires the state to have local mandates. Then all those government who insisted they didn't want federal money anyway can put their money where their mouths are.

Ghoulish Delight 12-20-2010 05:56 PM

As detestable as I find the subject of Philip Ray Greaves' book, his arrest bothers me.

innerSpaceman 12-20-2010 07:28 PM

I'm unclear on the details. What are the charges? I don't think there is a criminal statute for detestable subject matter. Perhaps the theory is that the book aids and abets pedophilia? It's a stretch.

Alex 12-20-2010 07:45 PM

Obscenity

Ghoulish Delight 12-20-2010 07:46 PM

It's a stretch. He lives in Colorado I believe. The AG of Florida (who's an anti child porn crusader) ordered a copy of the book, interpreted that as giving him jurisdiction to prosecute him under Florida's rather broad obscenity laws. It's questionable whether the extradition will go through.

Alex 12-20-2010 08:58 PM

Eugene Volokh (a UCLA law professor who has written on the law around crime facilitating speech) posted on his blog about the case.

http://volokh.com/2010/12/20/pedophi...scenity-charge

BarTopDancer 12-22-2010 12:35 PM

Awww. It looks like some members of the GoP (namely those who decided to not work over the holiday break) are upset about the work Congress has been doing this week during it's "lame duck" session.

Guess they should have gone to work! I wonder what their constituents think about that.

alphabassettgrrl 12-22-2010 03:09 PM

Yeah. "We stopped any work getting done." "Oh, look, it's too late to do any work." "What? You're working? How awful." And now claiming that they don't have time to review the bills they're voting on.

Whatever. Maybe you shouldn't have stopped all the work when you had time to review things.

JWBear 01-20-2011 07:55 PM

Another right-wing psychopath. Luckily, he was caught in time.

Alex 01-23-2011 11:16 PM

I'll be on a boat and will resist any temptation to actually watch the State of the Union since it is even more irrelevant now than in most years.

But I just want to put it on record that when I'm elected president I'm going to go back to the pre-Wilson norm of delivering the state of the union in letter form.

And unlike Jimmy Carter, the last president to just send a letter, it isn't going to be some long thing. It will just say

Quote:

Dear Congress:

Is good.

The President
And I will do it this way for no other reason than to watch the cable show pundits stroke out.


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