What are you talking about, the only time I really get to post is when I'm doing my job :D

I did quit my job. For two years almost.

Perhaps we can bump up the value of this site to fund our early retirements so that we can post endlessly without workplace interuptions.

Well- now that the election is behind us-and as ISM said-

Shall we bring this thread back into active status given our recent discussion of liberal vs conservative?

ok, lets.

I've been wondering why I feel a bit more comfortable with Democrats in charge of Congress. As has been rightly pointed out by Nephy and others, they are barely discernable from the Republicans, beholden to their own set of special monied interests, and just as crooked as the day is long.

Perhaps my comfort level with the slightly more liberal side of the political equation we seem stuck with in this country is that, for the most part, liberals seem less to want to control other people than conservatives do.

I think the only control-folks item on the liberal agenda is to make very rich people pay the taxes they paid a few years ago.

One of my personal values, raised with and born with, and one I consider a supremely American value as well ... is mind my own frelling business. Don't tell other people what they can and cannot do.


So, as a woman, I wouldn't want other people trying to stop my human right to control my reproductive choices. As a gay man, I don't want other people trying to stop my human right to marry among the only people I can fall in love with. There are many other examples.


In my book, that's just not right.





Do conservatives see it differently?

If the God of the New Hampshirites told Her people to pass a law that only women could hold jobs in the U.S., how would some of you conservatives feel about New Hampshirites?

iSm~:snap: :snap:

The ONLY reason I am registered currently as a Dem is so I can vote against Republicans. I have no love for the Dems either, but they are better than the current state of the Republicas.

When I became of voting age, I voted Republican. The Dems were just way too liberal for me. That was 26 years ago. In that time, the Republican party has moved so far to the right (thanks to religion) that I want nothing to do with them. Meanwhile, the Dems have become a centrist party. That's why I have to laugh when the work "liberal" gets tossed around here. Dems aren't liberral in 2006.

In what respect?

I find the liberal tendancy to paint all Corporations as inherently evil as one of it's most annoying attributes, but the religious convictions (and dogmatic righteousness) downright scares me. If the republicans didn't embrace that side so warmly, I'd probably vote that way more often becasue I value my more "liberal" lifestyle too much.

Perhaps not all corporations are inherently evil ... but the unbridled profit motive is.


Corporations are not citizens. And I am sick of corporations having the rights and benefits of citizenship.

Government of the people, by the people and for the people should encourage the econmic benefits of corporations, but should have a far more robust system of checks and balances to corporate power and greed. The profit motive will, almost inevitably, accept harm to the people and the planet in exchange for money. And government derived from the will of the people should offer protections to the citizenry from the dangers of the cold pursuit of gold.