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I'm mostly suspicious of it because of the sheer amount of money they obviously stand to make from it.* I mean, there was a "vote yes" ad on during the g*ddamn SUPER BOWL. ANY political initiative having that much money poured into it is going to make me suspicious. In light of some of the other crap I've seen them try to pull using initiatives in the past (one gaming initiative would have basically forced the state to automatically renew gaming compacts. Forced.), I don't trust for a second that there aren't things hidden in the text of this one that will serve them a whole lot and the rest of California not at all. Besides, there's enough gambling already in this state. If CA needs more slots, let another tribe open them. At this point, about the only gambling-related initiative I'd vote for would be one that removed the requirement to involve cards in the games (eg: California Craps, and such stupidity).
(*-said with the understanding that there is nothing wrong with people making money, but the sheer amount of money they must stand to make from this, given their investment in it sets off my "shenanigans" alarm something fierce.) |
And yes, Alex ... if given the opportunity to vote Robin Hood style on forbidding the sale of an inherited painting for $125 million, I would.
That's not to say I agree such a thing should be up for a vote by me. But if it is, then Errol Flynn will be my guide. |
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Cool. No argument with that, we just disagree.
Out of curiosity, do you have any sense of when the line of decency in terms of personal wealth has been crossed or is it like Potter Stewart and pornography? |
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Personally, I don't believe that any amount of money made by an individual is obscene as long as it is made in an honest fashion and not at the detriment of others. In the case of the Indian Casinos issues, I am not seeing a negative to allowing. So to me, the issue is about whether the tribes should be allowed to make a choice to expand. Since no one appears to be harmed by allowing the expansion, I see no need to disapprove it unless I want to strip someone of their choice. Wouldn't the liberals be in favor of allowing choice? |
Ok, Kevy ... well I don't believe any money made from gambling is made honestly. And I don't happen to believe that selling a painting you did not buy is done honestly.
Your mileage may vary. And yes, I have no predefined red-line of wealth obsenity ... so I only know it when I see it, and only vote on it when someone in government decides I have that right. I see Indians making 30,000 per month from the weakness of poor schmucks who lose their money in rigged games of chance ... and when those Indians want more money from that immoral (imo) scheme, I will say No if I'm asked. How nice of them to ask me. Now go fvck yourselves, rich and thieving redskins. (Yeah, I said redskins ... I'm the LoT racist, remember?) |
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Does knowing that affect your opinion? |
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In certain ways gaming is fvcking the tribes because it has changed the way that Indians define who is and is not Indian, and all because of money. Gaming is going a long way towards "helping" Indians assimilate the values of the dominant society. |
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I should also clarify that if I were a member of a tribe I would campaign strongly for staying out of large gambling operations as I think in the long run they probably aren't a great idea for the tribe as a distinct entity.
But I'm not and they have decided on that course so I don't feel that even if I'm being given a chance to enforce on them my preferences that it is an opportunity I should have been given.. |
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