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mousepod 02-05-2008 07:48 PM

Voted Clinton, for various reasons. Having said that, I will wholeheartedly embrace the eventual Democratic nominee whether it be Clinton or Obama.

I want this war to end (sorry, JM) and am creeped out by Mitt...

This sure is an interesting year in politics... and it's only February.

JWBear 02-05-2008 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Motorboat Cruiser (Post 189529)
I've gone back and forth on it for two weeks now. It wasn't an easy decision by any means and my reasoning goes beyond my one-sentence response. I suppose there is underlying feeling that you have to know how to play the game. I don't like the game, I hope if Obama gets in, he changes the game. But, in Hillary, I see someone who has been attacked mercilessly for many years now and she is still standing. I don't see a whole lot of new angles to attack her on. With Obama, I see the smear machine potentially eviscerating him, on everything from his name to his former drug use and any other thing they can dig up. They will swiftboat the living hell out of him and I'm not yet convinced that he can combat it successfully. He's never had it happen to him.

Did I make the best choice? I have no idea.

I think the Republican smear machinery will go after Hillary far worse than they will Obama. They have more ammunition, IMO.

I voted for Obama.

Kevy Baby 02-05-2008 07:57 PM

Hi Ho, Hi Ho
It's off to vote I go

For Mitt Romney (I have the same wishy-washiness as MBC) and no, no, no, yes, yes, yes, and yes.

Do you feel like you are watching Quick Time Harch now?

innerSpaceman 02-05-2008 08:12 PM

I was thinking my hand would suddenly change my vote to Obama, but it didn't. But i'm as conflicted as MBC, and the pros and cons to both Dem candidates don't wash out in one or the other's favor, to my mind at any rate.


Frankly, I think Obama can beat McCain, and Clinton would have a harder time of it. But I don't vote on electability or strategy. I vote on who I'd like more to be MY president. (But yeah, i do vote on having Bill Clinton be the first First Fella, so sue me.)

Ghoulish Delight 02-05-2008 08:13 PM

Obama's looking strong. Clinton's got a slight edge in terms of the states that the news outlets are calling one way or the other, but of the 7 states that are reporting but not yet called, Obama's leading in 6. If this continues, they are indeed going to end up virtually even when all is said and done, which Obama's gotta view as a victory.

Alex 02-05-2008 08:15 PM

Damn. I'm forced to watch the results on Fox News because they have the best results graphics including being the only one (between them, CNN, and MSNBC) prominently displaying the delegate counts which, in the end, are the important thing.

innerSpaceman 02-05-2008 08:16 PM

What the press will likely report as victory is not victory at all. No major media reported anything but that Clinton won Nevada, and the Obama camp was pretty pissed about that ... seeing as it was he who won Nevada.

The contest is for DELEGATES, not votes. Who wins the popular vote doesn't matter at all. In the Democratic race especially, with proportional wins of delegates, knowing the person who won the popular vote in each state is competely meaningless.

Ghoulish Delight 02-05-2008 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex (Post 189563)
Damn. I'm forced to watch the results on Fox News because they have the best results graphics including being the only one (between them, CNN, and MSNBC) prominently displaying the delegate counts which, in the end, are the important thing.

MSNBC.com's graphics are good. You can even browse to it on your Wii if you want to see it on you TeeVee.

And I should have said, I'm looking at delegate counts. Obama started the day with the lead, Clinton's up by about 30, but will likely see that lead dwindle as those next 7 states report.

Then there's California...

ETA: Hmm, seems there was a temporary glitch in MSNBC's graphics. There are 5 states on the Democratic side that are reporting but still uncalled. Obama's got a lead in 4 of those.

mousepod 02-05-2008 08:27 PM

I'm watching Chris and Keith on MSNBC, and have the MSNBC Super Dashboard running on my computer for delegate counts.

Alex 02-05-2008 08:30 PM

I don't have the web browser installed on my Wii and I'm not watching results on my computer. For just casual glances every 15 minutes or so the Fox graphics are best. MSNBC when I was watching it was fine though somewhat harder to parse.


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