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Betty 10-19-2010 03:14 PM

I'm wearing purple today though... does that mean I don't support suicide?

innerSpaceman 10-21-2010 04:52 PM

Valerie Jarrett vs. Dan Choi on the Obama Administration's hard-ball appeal tactics reversing an injunction against enforcement of Don't Ask Don't Tell.




Wow, outright LIES by Ms. Jarrett. Obama has NEVER said he believes DADT is "unconstitutional," and that's a legal position his Justice department is perfectly able to take in relation to appealing or not appealing the law which they already defended and lost. The "defense" of laws on the books stage is over. She's a liar about everything, and frankly Wolf is a pussy of an interviewer who either knows zip about Justice Dept. appeals or purposefully played softball.

Not only does the President have wide latitude to refuse to appeal when he personally feels a law is unconstitutional, but he also has wide latitude when it comes to laws affecting his authority as commander in chief. The problem is he does NOT think the law is unconstitutional (and has never said those words) and has refused for 2 years now to use any of his powers as commander in chief on this issue.

Lie after lie after lie. What a shameful performance. Nice going, losing a core constituency for your reelection bid in 2 years, Mr. President. Dan Choi's is hardly the only gay vote you've lost. Oh, and I'm sure you've appeased plenty of Republicans and Teabaggers by your homophobic actions. They'll be voting for you in droves now, won't they? Sheesh.

Gn2Dlnd 10-21-2010 06:34 PM

"Ted Haggard Is Completely Heterosexual" by Roy Zimmerman

It's a little past (or "passed," thank you very much Missus Thomas) its use-by date, but completely worth it.

Chernabog 10-22-2010 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman (Post 335555)
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMFcsTRWH7I&feature=player_embedded#!]Lie after lie after lie. What a shameful performance. Nice going, losing a core constituency for your reelection bid in 2 years, Mr. President. Dan Choi's is hardly the only gay vote you've lost. Oh, and I'm sure you've appeased plenty of Republicans and Teabaggers by your homophobic actions. They'll be voting for you in droves now, won't they? Sheesh.

Unless we get whiplash from the way things turn around, I will not be surprised if Obama is a one-termer.

Not that I'm voting for Sarah Palin, mind you. But I am not voting for Obama either. And, frankly, the Dems deserve to be a$$raped in next month's elections.

innerSpaceman 10-22-2010 09:37 AM

.... with no lube.

JWBear 10-22-2010 10:18 AM

I think I've gotten to the point that I'll be actively campaigning for his primary challenger, whomever that might be.

Betty 10-22-2010 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chernabog (Post 335576)
Unless we get whiplash from the way things turn around, I will not be surprised if Obama is a one-termer.

Not that I'm voting for Sarah Palin, mind you. But I am not voting for Obama either. And, frankly, the Dems deserve to be a$$raped in next month's elections.

If it came down to Obama vs Palin - who would you vote for?

innerSpaceman 10-22-2010 11:21 AM

It doesn't much matter. I'd decline to vote. But in California, it will go for Obama no matter what. So my protest vote can be a vote of conscience and not in any way be a vote for whomever the Republican candidate is.


He's not been a total failure as a president. He and the Congress have actually had a lot of successes and accomplishments, which they are beyond lame at communicating.

But he's an incredible disappointment to me as a progressive (even though he was always clearly a center/right moderate), and as a gay man he's been an affront to my very being, over and over and over and over. I could hardly loathe the man more if I were a teabagger.


Er, I mean a Tea Partier.


Silly me, I already am a teabagger. :cool:

Gemini Cricket 10-22-2010 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Betty (Post 335589)
If it came down to Obama vs Palin - who would you vote for?

Despite not being a fan of Obama at this moment, I'd say I'd vote for him in 2012. To me, it would feel like not voting for him is a vote for Palin.

Cadaverous Pallor 10-22-2010 12:29 PM

If fvcking SARAH PALIN is elected PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, I will be SO GODDAMNED PISSED at anyone who didn't vote, because I WILL move out of the country. No sh!t.

There is a precedent to defending the previous administration's laws. Obama wants his health care bill defended in the next administration (which WILL be attacked, guaranteed) so he is defending this. Even Bush defended the Family & Medical Leave Act that was a landmark Clinton victory.

If you think you are punishing democrats by not voting for them, remember that you have to put up with whoever gets into office. You want to cut off your nose to spite your face? It wasn't that long ago that we lived in Bush's America and yet it's forgotten already.

I know this issue hits very close to home for all of you but take a second to think what those conservatives think about you...and how happy you are making them right now. If Dems lose, you lose even more. Isn't that blatantly obvious??


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