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Strangler Lewis 09-25-2009 01:40 PM

Then the only legal sentence is life, and the prior death sentence doesn't matter any more than a unanimous public opinion poll saying that we should still hang pickpockets.

Morrigoon 09-25-2009 01:53 PM

Yes, but we were talking snarkily about health care and whether it's in the state's best interest to keep one alive to punish them for as long as possible.

Strangler Lewis 09-25-2009 02:26 PM

I suppose the cheapest would be to abolish the death penalty and not provide LWOP prisoners any medical care. Of course, you'd have to have a medical system set up for the non-LWOP patients, so you wouldn't save much on medical expenses by withholding care, just perhaps on long-term living expenses.

JWBear 09-25-2009 04:35 PM

I'm no expert on constitutional law, but I imagine that withholding medical care would be considered cruel and unusual punishment.

Strangler Lewis 09-25-2009 04:42 PM

Well, sure, but we're talking the best of all possible worlds here.

Sometimes medical intervention is required. For example, I believe the law is that the state may not execute someone who is insane at the time. Therefore, the state may may forcibly medicate the person to restore their temporary competence so that they can understand why they're being tortured during a botched lethal injection procedure.

Morrigoon 09-25-2009 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JWBear (Post 300298)
I'm no expert on constitutional law, but I imagine that withholding medical care would be considered cruel and unusual punishment.

Yes, but apparently only if you're guilty of a crime. Perfectly acceptable if you're the customer of a health insurance company.

Cadaverous Pallor 09-25-2009 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morrigoon (Post 300317)
Yes, but apparently only if you're guilty of a crime. Perfectly acceptable if you're the customer of a health insurance company.

DING DING DING!!!

flippyshark 09-25-2009 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morrigoon (Post 300317)
Yes, but apparently only if you're guilty of a crime. Perfectly acceptable if you're the customer of a health insurance company.

Oooo - I'm gonna have to use that one.

Alex 09-27-2009 12:53 PM

William Safire is now bitching about word usage on another plane.

tod 09-29-2009 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex (Post 300420)
William Safire is now bitching about word usage on another plane.

He's probably arguing with Ron Ziegler about "inoperative" in the Watergate circle of Hell between lava showers.

--t


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