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Strangler Lewis 05-04-2011 11:06 AM

Bush knew where Bin Laden was for years but did not take him out because of his family's ties to the Bin Laden family. Obama has known since his first day in office but waited for the right moment, that being after his release of a doctored birth certificate.

There. No president deserves any credit.

Moonliner 05-04-2011 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Strangler Lewis (Post 346286)
Bush knew where Bin Laden was for years but did not take him out because of his family's ties to the Bin Laden family. Obama has known since his first day in office but waited for the right moment, that being after his release of a doctored birth certificate.

There. No president deserves any credit.

But how does Trump and Area-51 fit in?

Capt Jack 05-04-2011 12:23 PM

...and on the lighter side


scaeagles 05-04-2011 01:44 PM

Certain things about the situation I find odd. Not the operation, but the enviroment in which OBL was living.

First of all, I find it hilarious that where he was living has been described as a mansion. Perhaps in comparison to a cave or the other homes, but i don't really look at it as I would a mansion.

Secondly, apparently he was growing marijuana.

Third, any soccer ball kicked over the fence by neighborhood children wasn't returned, but the children would be given cash as compensation.

Lastly, OBL was breeding bunnies and giving them away to people in the neighborhood.

I suppose any or all of those may not be true, but i have heard them reported.

scaeagles 05-04-2011 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JWBear (Post 346274)
Communism was already on it's last legs when Reagan took office. The soviets simply could not compete with the western world. It would have collapsed regardless of who the president was.

Perhaps, but not in the time frame it did. It was only Reagan, but other leaders of the time, including Lady Thatcher and Pope John Paul.

Kennedy deserves some credit for having the cajones he did during the Cuban Missile crisis. Hell, OBL does too, as ISM alluded to earlier. I would argue that Carter did everything he could to prop them up, but that's a different matter all together. I find the history of the collapse a very interesting one.

JWBear 05-04-2011 01:59 PM

You failed to mention the very significant role played be the people living in those communist countries; including some of their leaders. It was a combination of internal and external factors, not just the external ones, that led to the collapse.

Exactly how did Carter prop up communism?

innerSpaceman 05-04-2011 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles (Post 346298)
I suppose any or all of those may not be true, but i have heard them reported.

Gee, scaeagles, might that be from any of the (even "mainstream") news sources who said it was 3 copters, then 4, then 2, then 2 with 2 backup, then wife killed, then wife injured, then courier's wife killed, then courier killed, then courier injured, then 8-foot high walls, then 18-foot high with razor wire, etc., etc?

it's an evolving news story where none of the basics about the actual operation have been gotten right YET by a major news organization, and you are giving credence to 'reports' that he gives stoned bunny rabbits to neighborhood kids instead of returning their soccer balls?! Puleaze!

scaeagles 05-04-2011 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JWBear (Post 346304)
Exactly how did Carter prop up communism?

By allowing our military to decay in the fashion in which it decayed. He also allowed the sale of very high tech (for the day) mainframe computers to the Soviets. He did nothing except react with shock that the leaders of the Soviets invaded Afghanistan a couple of months after meetings in which he hugged and kissed them and called them friends. He appeased their every move. The list of his foreign policy snafus is endless when related to the Soviets.

scaeagles 05-04-2011 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman (Post 346315)
Gee, scaeagles, might that be from any of the (even "mainstream") news sources who said it was 3 copters, then 4, then 2, then 2 with 2 backup, then wife killed, then wife injured, then courier's wife killed, then courier killed, then courier injured, then 8-foot high walls, then 18-foot high with razor wire, etc., etc?

it's an evolving news story where none of the basics about the actual operation have been gotten right YET by a major news organization, and you are giving credence to 'reports' that he gives stoned bunny rabbits to neighborhood kids instead of returning their soccer balls?! Puleaze!

Good LORD!!!!!!!!!!! Lighten up. I posted those simply for amusement. I think you need to pull out a little weed and mellow out a bit.

innerSpaceman 05-04-2011 03:37 PM

How dare you say that to me!




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