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scaeagles 07-27-2006 08:27 AM

I'm sure more investigation is needed. However, you know the Europeans, sick of Armstrong and constantly throwing doping allegations at him, are going to eat this up, and the controversy will never die no matter what the eventual final findings are.

Not Afraid 07-27-2006 08:35 AM

I wouldn't blamet the "Europeans". Cycling has been frought with drug scandals for years now and the two most prominant cyclists that were kicked out of the Tour this year are both Europeans.

You're right that this will folow him for years, as it continues to do with Lance. I sure hope the tests are incorrect in some way.

scaeagles 07-27-2006 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Not Afraid
I wouldn't blamet the "Europeans".

Perhaps I haven't been in tune enough with any outrage directed at the two cyclists kicked out this year. All I know is that there seemingly genuine hatred of Armstrong that has been well publicized. I just can imagine all the years of unproven accusations against Armstrong coming to a huge head on the part of those who despise Armstrong even if they are proven to be nothing.

They may very well be something.

Gemini Cricket 07-27-2006 10:56 AM

Doping?! Cheater cheater pumpkin eater.

SacTown Chronic 07-27-2006 11:00 AM

Why the outrage over doping? Surely there's no competetive advantage to be gained from it, right? Anecdotally, when I'm doping the last thing I want do is race my bike up a mountain or two.

Stan4dSteph 07-27-2006 11:06 AM

Landis' blood sample "A" showed elevated levels of testosterone. Now they need to go and test his "B" sample before anything is definitive.

I also thought that perhaps his levels were elevated because of his abnormal physical condition. I hope it turns out to be an error.

Not Afraid 07-27-2006 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles
Perhaps I haven't been in tune enough with any outrage directed at the two cyclists kicked out this year. All I know is that there seemingly genuine hatred of Armstrong that has been well publicized. I just can imagine all the years of unproven accusations against Armstrong coming to a huge head on the part of those who despise Armstrong even if they are proven to be nothing.

They may very well be something.


There have been MANY cyclists kicked out of the Tour over the years. There were 7 this year and 9 in 1998 (the entire Festina team, if I remember correctly). I don't know if any if those removed are Americans, but none of the big names were American.

Armstrong has been under scrutiny for a while and, recent eye-witness testimony from Bobby Julich's wife of Armstrongs performance-enhancing drug use haven't helped matters. It hasn't helped that cycling is getting a reputation for excessive drug use - and the rep is not unfounded.

Armstrong's 7 consecutuve wins of Le Tour is a first and I'm not surprised there is suspicion of drug use, although I don't believe he would risk his life in that way after recovering from cancer.

Gemini Cricket 07-27-2006 11:27 AM

Yes, we don't know if he actually doped until the second test comes back, but who actually in their right mind thinks they can get away with this sort of thing? I mean, even Bush brought it up during one of his official speeches. It's a hot topic. Too hot to actually do...

NickO'Time 07-27-2006 01:03 PM

:mad: Im so livid about this. These guys think they can stay one step ahead of the doping controls. It is insanely stupid that they try with the technology of today. There have been situations where Testerone levels in a human being are unusually high. Gert Jan Theunisse had the same situation. All in all,Floyd should have his trophy stripped and Perriero should be crowned winner, if this is the case. Rant over!:mad:

NickO'Time 07-27-2006 03:52 PM

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Check out this link. Interesting.


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