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flippyshark 05-23-2008 08:17 PM

My "day later" feelings are that I really had a pleasant time watching it, but it's such candy floss, I'm already forgetting a lot about it.

As to lashbears misgivings about CG stunts and sets, a big amen from me, but that's the way of things now. Indy 4 is obviously guilty as charged, but hardly the worst offender. (It wasn't Jerry Bruckheimer ridiculous.) But I can't help thinking that one day, a studio or director will do something truly "the old fashioned way" and make some major bucketloads of money. (And what if it was something original, not a franchise extension of any kind. There has to be a next big thing coming along someday, unrelated to any existing comic book, movie or TV series. Such hopes keep me going during the rough patches.)

NickO'Time 05-23-2008 10:40 PM

Spoiler:


The bad things about the film..
There is no way in hell that Indy could step out of a Fridge and not come out unscathed. Total Bull-@#$%

Karen Allen returning didn't do anything for me, She could have been left out.
The Aliens and UFO theme didn't surprise me that it was in the film.

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What I did like:
Loved all of 50's detail and loved final scenes with the Alien.
Glad too see they still acknowledged "the Ark of Covenant" in the warehouse scene.
Loved the cars and motorbikes.:)

Gemini Cricket 05-24-2008 11:28 AM

About $31 million on Friday...

innerSpaceman 05-24-2008 12:43 PM

The Bond films do all their stunts the old-fashioned way, and no one notices. I don't see the impetus to keep doing that. Everyone assumes most unrealistic things are done with CGI ... even when they're not.


As for Indy 4's GGI laden-effects ... I have to admit I liked them better than the truly awful photographic effects in the old series (they had particular trouble with airplanes in both sequels) and prefered the CGI-enhanced locations to the horrible switch to fake backlot from grand outdoors in both sequels.


Anyway, keep in mind a mine car jumping the tracks to land squarely on ... the tracks after a leap of 400 feet, or a wingless plane passing a car inside a tunnel, or an inflatable raft falling from a plane, careening down a mountain, falling over a cliff and landing in a river without any harm to the occupants.


I can't believe I'm defending this crap. Actually, I hate it. But it's nothing new in Indy World. Complaints at this point are rather meaningless.



If you'd hoped for a return to the comparatively gritty realism of Raiders of the Lost Ark, you haven't been paying attention to the talent arcs of Steven Spielberg and George Lucas.

flippyshark 05-24-2008 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman (Post 212923)
Anyway, keep in mind a mine car jumping the tracks to land squarely on ... the tracks after a leap of 400 feet, or a wingless plane passing a car inside a tunnel, or an inflatable raft falling from a plane, careening down a mountain, falling over a cliff and landing in a river without any harm to the occupants.

Yeah, all of those things made me roll my eyes. I'm not especially complaining about the presence of such silliness in the current Indy. I've learned to expect it. But if a Raiders-gritty style film did come along, oh what a happy boy I'd be. If Indy four had been that movie, my opinion wouldn't be "pleasant diversion," it would be "I am so happy to be alive right now." (That's how Raiders made me feel.) May never happen again, I know.

BarTopDancer 05-24-2008 03:21 PM

I loved it.

Replying to GCs original spoiler:

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Originally Posted by GC
Spoiler:
Does the torch get passed to Mutt? Almost, but no. I actually liked that part a lot. Nice try, dinglecheese, start your own series of adventure movies.

Spoiler:
I actually said "oh hell no", and was super happy that it was averted.


Oh and

Spoiler:
Harrison Ford is HOT!!!!!!!

Promo-Man 05-24-2008 04:02 PM

Went today. I wanted to be entertained and I was. I enjoyed it

innerSpaceman 05-24-2008 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by flippyshark (Post 212928)
But if a Raiders-gritty style film did come along, oh what a happy boy I'd be. If Indy four had been that movie, my opinion wouldn't be "pleasant diversion," it would be "I am so happy to be alive right now." (That's how Raiders made me feel.) May never happen again, I know.

Well, I felt happy to be alive after that first screening of Indy 4. It was no Raiders of the Lost Ark, but I felt pleased with the spirit of the proceedings, and I've since become disenchanted with most of the details.

I've a feeling this one will go down with The Last Crusade, or even Return of the Jedi, with films I was cheered greatly by in spirit when I first saw them ... but now don't care to watch.




Well ... if anything .... a third so-so Indiana Jones film just more firmly fixes Raiders of the Lost Ark in the highest heights of the cinema firmament.

:cool:




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Hey, considering how many LoT swankers are seeing Indy 4 in 4 hours, can we stop using spoiler tags as of tonight????

Gemini Cricket 05-24-2008 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman (Post 212933)
...can we stop using spoiler tags as of tonight????

I see no problem with that.
Although, I guess the title of the thread should indicate that there are unmarked spoilers within...

scaeagles 05-24-2008 09:27 PM

I was bored through most of it when I wen tonight. After the boredom passed I was just embarrassed for those involved with it.

I'm not a picky movie goer. That was aweful.


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