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Nephythys 03-21-2005 10:05 AM

and that is why I stay away from these things-can you see through your hatred? Or does the red cloud your vision?

Bye-gonna go lounge it.

Not Afraid 03-21-2005 11:04 AM

OK. Now I'm pissed. In. Out. In. Out. The poor woman! Can't we have some death with dignity any longer? Can I just request here that I want MY feeding tube removed? And, Bush - any of the idiots - can't do any thing about it?

Nephythys 03-21-2005 12:17 PM

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Bob Schindler visited his daughter late Sunday and said he noticed the effects of dehydration on her. He said she appeared to be getting tired, but eventually responded to his teasing by making a face at him.

"It tells us she's still with us," he said.

Brian Schiavo, Michael's brother, said he spent Sunday afternoon with his brother and Terri at the hospice, but Terri did not move or make any noises. "Anybody that thinks that she talks and responds, they need to have a mental health examination," he said.

Maybe she just doesn't respond to people who want her to die?

€uroMeinke 03-21-2005 12:27 PM

Or we could just let her die and let God sort it out - provided she believes in God, of course ;)

Cadaverous Pallor 03-21-2005 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by €uroMeinke
Or we could just let her die and let God sort it out - provided she believes in God, of course ;)

Ah, but God told us suicide is a sin. So letting her die is a sin. Allowing others to sin is a sin, so we can't let God sort it out, because he'll deal harshly with us. And we base all our moral decisions on Christianity in this country. Especially now with the "mandate" going on.

Hmm, I need to find out the Jewish stance on suicide and the right to die.

Her parents are monsters. Absolute monsters. I wouldn't want my daughter caught in a living hell for 15 years, never mind any longer than that. Selfish monsters out of control.

I wonder if they've ever put a pet to sleep.

Motorboat Cruiser 03-21-2005 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Nephythys
Maybe she just doesn't respond to people who want her to die?

Or maybe her parents are in extreme denial and seeing what they want to see, rather than reality.

I'm just saying that it is possible.

Every doctor not on the family payroll has said that this woman has no chance of recovery.

Cadaverous Pallor 03-21-2005 12:41 PM

Something else I don't agree with Judaism on. Oh well.

Scrooge McSam 03-21-2005 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Nephythys
Maybe she just doesn't respond to people who want her to die?

OR It could be that she doesn't respond because her cerebral cortex is GONE and has been replaced with cerebral spinal fluid.

Nephythys 03-21-2005 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by €uroMeinke
Or we could just let her die and let God sort it out - provided she believes in God, of course ;)


YOU are such a brat! :p

MBC- I concede that as parents that is entirely possible.

CP- they are NOT monsters. They are parents caught in intolerable grief and pain. :( This is a horrible situation.

€uroMeinke 03-21-2005 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor
Ah, but God told us suicide is a sin. So letting her die is a sin. Allowing others to sin is a sin, so we can't let God sort it out, because he'll deal harshly with us. And we base all our moral decisions on Christianity in this country. Especially now with the "mandate" going on.

See, this is what puzzles me about Christianity and other heaven-based religions - If heaven is such a great place, why do you wnat to send the hienous of criminals there without pause, yet do your best to prevent loved ones from achieving it?

It's just a shame that a similar effort isn't made for conscious people starving around the world - I think there might be more hedons gained in that effort.


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