The fork in the timeline occurred in 1977 when the bomb went off. Not in the air. Everybody's lives took a different turn way before flight 815 didn't crash.

At least that's how I see things.

I liked the episode. I liked that he was partners with Miles in the FS. I liked that somebody gave him a nickname. I liked seeing Charlotte again. I liked the island story. In fact, I can't think of anything I didn't like.

I'm still trying to figure out if Widmore is a good guy or a bad guy. Hell... I'm still trying to figure out if anyone is a good guy!

I was thinking about Widmore.....I'm thinking he's a third wheel.

We have Jacob, the presumed good guy. We have Flocke, the presumed bad guy. I think Widmore fits in differently in that he was on the island long ago, was banished, and is seeking to gain control as an outside third party.

And Pirate, you're right - the alternate time line stuff really started as a result of the bomb exploding, not crashing vs. not crashing.

What I liked most about this episode was my realization that MIB, unlike Jacob, answers questions. Someone asks him a questions, he answers. Not necessarily entirely honestly, or even if honest, in a way that says, "Okay, I'll humor your question with an answer but only because it just goes to show how little you know and how you don't even know what questions and secrets are actually important." But he answers, which just encapsulates the awesomeness of the show and the whole "answers" thing.

And I love that Sawyer basically used the same tactic when responding to Whidmore and MIB.

Charolette was freaking hot in this episode. The guy who played Faraday must be pissed that he got nose-blood coughed on him, and Sawyer got a sex scene.

Sawyer - shirt = awesome episode. What was the rest of the storyline? :D

Another disappointed customer here, too - especially after last week's boffo episode (the only one of the season).

I'm getting tired of the sideways focus on one character per episode - because it smacks of there not being a story, per se, but rather just a desire to spotlight each main character in turn as a kind of curtain call for the series. Bleh on that. Waste of time when TONS of Story should be Told at this point.

And the sideways stuff is not even very good. Last week's Ben Linus was of course the best one. It actually told a full story, and hooked in beautifully with the story on the island that week. Well done. None of the others are rising to that standard, though.

The Sayid one was also interesting ... but was a snippet of a tale instead of a story told. And I guess it's all leading up to many of the characters, if not all of them, hooking up sometime soon - - though the reveal of some other sideways character interaction at the very end of the episode is already getting tiresome.

And what is the POINT of the sideways world that obviously is NOT the world the characters inhabited in the original pre-Oceanic world. WHY is that? What's it got to do with the "real" characters on the Island? How will those two storylines affect each other and the freaking finale that we're supposed to be rushing headlong to?


With only 8 more episodes, I don't think there's any possibly satisfying way to tie this all together.

I picked the wrong season to watch week-by-week as it airs. This is torture. And not the fun kind.

Did anyone catch a HUGE point last night?

Charlotte works at the museum with Miles DAD!

When we saw Ben's dad alive and well last week I thought, "oh well, Newotherton isn't super close to the Swan".......but hello, Pierre Chang was at the swan.

Just what happened at the swan after Juliet slammed the bomb:confused:

I think what makes the sideways timeline different is that Jacob wasn't around.

I think the bomb affected the timeline in both directions.

Like burning a candle in the middle. Good point!

There could be a reason for it that we don't yet understand. With out knowing how this is going to end, how can we assume what information is important? How do we know the sideways flashes aren't the real timeline? All will be revealed in the end (or so they say)! :rolleyes: I'm rather nervous about it. It better be good!

After he is done with this show, I think his contracts for any future work will state that he will not be willing to take off his shirt, because he is so tired of it. I think he should just get a beer belly and let the hair grow in so that no one will want him to! ;)