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mousepod 09-23-2008 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles (Post 240986)
This is an easy to understand piece on why this financial crisis is largely the democrats failure, not the republicans. It also points out that McCain was one of three cosponsors on a bill that would most likely have averted this should it have passed.

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Oh, and there is one little footnote to the story that's worth keeping in mind while Democrats point fingers between now and Nov. 4: Senator John McCain was one of the three cosponsors of S.190, the bill that would have averted this mess.
This needs to be publicized from the mountain tops by the Mccain campaign.

No wonder Pelosi has been loudly proclaiming the dems have no fault in this. It appears to be largely their fault, and McCain was one who tried to pass legicaltion to reign in this problem three years ago


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Originally Posted by scaeagles (Post 241131)
There is no point in going about the game of trying to place blame on one party or another. This is truly a bipartisan mess if there ever was one. For every point one side makes about such and such advisor or such and such vote, the other side can match it item for item in reference to the other side.

And they are all probably accurate.

Good advice.

scaeagles 09-23-2008 09:29 AM

Thanks for pointing that out. I have actually been researching this quite a bit and have certainly come to a conclusion that it is without a doubt the responsibility of both parties.

I wouldn't figure that changing my mind would be a big deal, particularly around here, but I perhaps should have retracted the first portion of the first quote, which I did not think to do.

It remains, however, that McCain did cosponsor that bill.

innerSpaceman 09-23-2008 09:32 AM

nope, sorry .... pwnzored

scaeagles 09-23-2008 09:59 AM

Fine. Whatever. Sorry to have changed my mind. Guess that won't happen around here anymore. From now on I'll remain completely closed minded, tow the party line completely without ever researching to try to determine what is correct vs what is party line, and only ever mention why I believe dems are screwing the country because nothing could ever be the fault of the republicans.

mousepod 09-23-2008 10:11 AM

Don't need to get pissy. I just posted your quotes side by side because you made them less than 24 hours apart.

Your second quote talked about a blame game. You didn't say that you'd changed your mind, you just changed your tone. I would hope that if one took part in poop flinging and then changed their mind, they'd take a little responsibility instead of taking the tone that "people shouldn't fling poop" when their fingers are still brown.

scaeagles 09-23-2008 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by mousepod (Post 241150)
You didn't say that you'd changed your mind, you just changed your tone.

Please reread the second post. I most certainly did say I'd changed my mind, granted without using those exact words.

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I have actually been researching this quite a bit and have certainly come to a conclusion that it is without a doubt the responsibility of both parties.
Not sure how much more clear I needed to be that I read and researched and decided that it is indeed something both parties have a huge hand in screwing up.

My "pissy" response was toward ISM, not you.

innerSpaceman 09-23-2008 11:05 AM

Sorry if I misunderstood you, scaeagles, but I read the paragraph again and you did not say you changed your mind in any type of way. You simply posted something completely contrary to what you posted the previous day.
It might be implied you changed your mind ... it might also be implied you were being hypocritical.

In this day and age where the Daily Show makes sport of catching various poliltical figures in two-faced opposing statements, mousepod was just playing the same game with your conflicting posts. (Coming to a conclusion is not the same as coming to a new or different conclusion, so that statement did not register to this reader as 'scaeagles changed his mind.')


Personally, I accept your verion of events that you have simply changed or modified your position. But until you explained in that way, it appeared to more than one reader that you were simply contradicting yourself.



Gotcha is fun, it's just a game.

scaeagles 09-23-2008 11:21 AM

That's cool. Thanks.

3894 09-24-2008 10:41 AM

In "The Sarah Palin Story" Tina Fey plays Palin, obviously. I'd like Will Ferrell as Todd.

Tenigma 09-24-2008 11:22 AM

From a list I'm on:

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We can't let them get away with one of their clichéd manœvres this time. Don't let one little dinky ploy get past our necessarily constant and sharp vigil.

PBS is doing one of those instant online polls to ask America" if they think Sarah Palin is fit to be Vice President.

The GOP has launched a successful all out blitz to get Republicans to go on the site and click "Yes". As a result right now it looks like 62% of "America" thinks Palin is qualified. The Republicans are going to be milking this for all its worth in their press efforts.

We need to drive more Democrats and those opposed to Palin to the site to click "NO". Let's not give the GOP another easy weapon to put in their PR arsenal!

Here's the link:

http://www.pbs.org/now/polls/poll-435.html

You don't have to enter your email address or anything, just click "NO" and forward to family and friends!

NO Way, NO How, NO McCain, NO Palin!


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