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Alex 07-01-2010 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Strangler Lewis (Post 327798)
As to the point about Bonnie, was she truly the only not-Andy who deserved to inherit all the toys?

Probably not. But how many other not-Andys does Woody know? Andy didn't pick her for donating the toys, Woody did. That's what was on the note, not just "give us away" but "Give us to Bonnie at Address X" (Woody knew the address from earlier when they use Google Maps).

Ghoulish Delight 07-04-2010 09:21 AM

We saw it and we loved it, not just because it was the first time we've been out of the house together alone in 6 months.

I don't have a whole lot more to add to what's already been said. Just loved the emotional notes it hit, with the usual Pixar skill. Definitely liked it more than TS2. Hard to compare it to the original because the original gets so much more credit for being the original. I haven't done the mental work to rank it in the Pixar pantheon.

Cadaverous Pallor 07-04-2010 09:59 AM

Yay yay YAY.

This movie met and exceeded even my high expectations. How they do it I'll never know.

Nearly everything was perfect. It was way scary and heartbreaking and that's what made it so moving. Plenty of it will go way over children's heads and more of it would give them nightmares, and I leave it up to each parent to figure out if their kid would enjoy it. Just the idea of losing a toy might cause fits for some, never mind the idea of losing a toy which causes it to become evil!

Speaking of which, I thought they were going to bring up the point that if you're a toy that gets replaced with the exact same toy, that's proof that you were SO loved that the child couldn't live without you.

SL, if you can't feel for a toy that has its head bashed into hard surfaces and limbs torn off as opposed to being played with by gentle hands, then yeah, you're not going to get the film. Sorry.

I love all the old toys. I had so many of them. The Fisher Price phone, the Farmer Says spinner, all the toys in the background of the daycare...I kept gasping and gasping. It does make it hard to watch the film, but so rewarding to keep your eyes wandering.

All the new stuff was great - Lotso's story was just as rich as any of the other characters' prior history, Ken was a great character and not just fluff, etc, and yet the old characters were extremely well done by too. That balance is so important in a sequel.

The Big Baby was so completely disturbing yet had my complete empathy throughout, which was almost mentally exhausting. Baby's major emotional moments, when Lotso rips off the necklace and when the necklace is returned and crushed, were right up there with the imminent death by furnace scene in intensity and tears. Fvck, I'm crying right now just typing this.

It got me pondering the weirdness of baby dolls to begin with. Here is a child as "mommy", quite often loving her baby so much that it becomes damaged and a hideous version of itself as it is loved to death. I know this is the case for all toys but with a baby it's much more bizarre. It is SO weird being a parent.

Speaking of which, Andy's whole college thing and his mom's moment of reaction were also perfectly handled and strong emotional beats. How do you get a parent of a 6 month old to ponder what it will be like to send her child to college? Like that.

Funny how that lame movie reviewer said this was full of product placement - the only new characters in this film were either old toys no longer available, generalized toys, or fictional toys. I do think that the film is an ad in one way - it is a celebration of toys, and as such it's somewhat of a celebration of consumerist childhood, which I do not feel is a bad thing. It's who we are, it's where we're from. Even as such it celebrates the creative side of play with toys, which always could use encouragement. I found myself thinking of Theo's future toys and that I want to remember to encourage such thoughtful play.



Movie was great. All hail Pixar. :cool:

Cadaverous Pallor 07-04-2010 10:02 AM

I went back and read older posts - and GC, really? You really think Andy was being a jerk because he was 17 and didn't want to play with his toys anymore? That Emily from TS2 was an asshole because she went to college and gave her toys away? Where are the toys from your childhood? People grow up and the toys fall away, that's the nature of the world. If you want to demonize anyone for toy mistreatment, it would be children like Sid who destroy toys for fun.

I Heart Disneyland! 07-04-2010 12:51 PM

Personally, I loved TS3. It even made me cry!! Almost everyone I know who has been also said it made them cry.

Of course, I still have MY Chatty Cathy from the mid 1960's! ;) No, seriously, I do! (And, a box of other toys.) Now that I am nearly 50...I have no plan to give them away. My kids can donate them or trash them when I'm dead!

Gemini Cricket 07-04-2010 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor (Post 327984)
You really think Andy was being a jerk because he was 17 and didn't want to play with his toys anymore? That Emily from TS2 was an asshole because she went to college and gave her toys away? Where are the toys from your childhood?

Yes. Yes. And, honestly, I still have a lot of my toys. They're in my attic so to speak. They're in a box in my apt. Some are on display. I have my Snoopy stuffed doll from '81, all my Star Wars action figures, a lot of stuffed animals and a truck load of PVC Donald Ducks and other Disney characters. The ones I threw out were the ones that literally fell apart. ie. My Millenium Falcon got all brittle and yellow from being in the sun from hanging from my ceiling in my assorted places of residences since the movie came out until like the end of the Ralphie days.
:)

Cadaverous Pallor 07-05-2010 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket (Post 327995)
Yes. Yes. And, honestly, I still have a lot of my toys.

Ok, I can dig that, but does that really mean that anyone that doesn't is a jerk or an asshole? (I'm beginning to feel that you were using hyperbole, but it did feel serious in the post.)

innerSpaceman 07-05-2010 07:25 AM

I have saved exactly ONE toy from my childhood. It's in a box, and I must look at it once every few years. I never play with it. It must be so damn happy.

But, I guess we all know what a jerk I am already. :iSm:

Alex 07-05-2010 07:48 AM

To confirm the sentiment. Not only do I own not a single toy from my childhood, I don't own a single toy (in the sense of childhood toys) from my adulthood. Unless you count my Wii, which I haven't used in about a year.

scaeagles 07-05-2010 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket (Post 327995)
Yes. Yes. And, honestly, I still have a lot of my toys.

So I guess the question is are you a geek or is everyone callous? :)


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