Originally Posted by wendybeth

How does Halliburton get a contract for repairing a disaster before it even happens? And if they have an exclusive 'Contractor for the USA' contract, that's news to the rest of us.

You don't have to prove your faith to me, but you don't get to act like your on a mission from God, either. Bush thinks he is the Annointed One, and has ever since 9/11. I merely observe that oftentimes, people of a quieter faith show by deed, not by verbosity.

Supreme arrogance is being absolutely certain that your way is the only way.

Oh, and Scaeagles- the Salvation Army, while a great organization, has a bit of a rep in the anti- gay dept. Most of them do. We had a 'church' up here for decades that was pro- Aryan; think they would just give to anyone?

Originally Posted by Nephythys

Even comes from a super leftist site Link

But I would think it is clear that 2004 was before 2005, when the hurricane hit and Haliburton got the contract. Or maybe you are not clear about how few companies do the work that Haliburton can and does?

Mocking me doesn't change anything-nor does it make you right.

So, someone who stands by their faith and says their faith is right, and others wrong, is supremely arrogant? So, they lose respect because they believe something that strongly- what? Would they be acceptable to you if they suffered doubt, questioned themselves and constantly had to adjust what they believed because they might be wrong?

Yeah- got it.

Originally Posted by Nephythys

So, someone who stands by their faith and says their faith is right, and others wrong, is supremely arrogant? So, they lose respect because they believe something that strongly- what? Would they be acceptable to you if they suffered doubt, questioned themselves and constantly had to adjust what they believed because they might be wrong?

Originally Posted by wendybeth

As to the faith thing- I have the utmost respect for Billy Graham, Pope John Paul II, Mother Theresa and individuals like them. They didn't run around talking about how Christian they were- they were and are, in their actions and in their daily lives. Anyone can talk about being something, but I am far more impressed by those that actually live it.

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

I loose respect when they attempt to force that faith on others.

Originally Posted by scaeagles

Is being confident in your faith the same as forcing it on others? I find that being confident in your faith and sharing it is no different than, say, a product testimonial or talking about a life changing event to someone else.

Ex-smokers can be this way. Often times they are so proud of themselves, so happy about the change they've made, that they want to tell everyone and can become antismoking zealots.

Originally Posted by scaeagles

Well, WB, we are certainly not going to come anything close to agreement. So, I suppose it is time to remove the proverbial brick wall so that both of our foreheads are saved the pain.

Originally Posted by wendybeth

I said you were right on this matter

Originally Posted by wendybeth

First off- show me where I was mocking you. Don't accuse me of doing something I wasn't doing- I asked a largely rhetorical question as to how the hell Halliburton got a permanent no-bid contract, and you answered it. From the Bush Administration. Years ago, which dosen't make me feel any better about it.

As to the faith thing- I have the utmost respect for Billy Graham, Pope John Paul II, Mother Theresa and individuals like them. They didn't run around talking about how Christian they were- they were and are, in their actions and in their daily lives. Anyone can talk about being something, but I am far more impressed by those that actually live it.