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innerSpaceman 02-05-2008 10:36 PM

The good thing about picking Hillary over Obama, if you're confused about which was the right choice .... if it turns out Obama is as good as we suspect, he'll have another shot or two or three at the presidency.

So we could have both. Just not right now. And Hillary could be the first woman president, while Obama could also still be the first black president.




I'd have one of Lisa's cats as president over George W. Bush, so let's not fret too much if it's Hillary or Barack.

Not Afraid 02-05-2008 10:40 PM

Calliope for President!!!!

The First Female Feline President!

Ghoulish Delight 02-05-2008 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman (Post 189603)

I'd have one of Lisa's cats as president over George W. Bush, so let's not fret too much if it's Hillary or Barack.

Just because a dead rodent would be better than our current President doesn't mean I have to be happy that someone I don't particularly respect as a politician might be my only choice.

BDBopper 02-05-2008 10:43 PM

Well as for me tonight I am tickled pink.

The goal for me was to do everything i could to get Mike Huckabee a win in Georgia.

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!! :)

Don't get me wrong. I have no illusion that Huckabee will win the nomination this go around. I didn't even start with that. I went in with the assumption that Mike Huckabee in 2008 was like Ronald Reagan in 1976. Both were Governors and seen by the GOP fat cat establishment as threats.

Mike has a much better shot in 2012.

LSPoorEeyorick 02-05-2008 10:45 PM

Our house is 100% behind Obama - and 100% willing to support Clinton should she come out ahead in the end. I'm just grateful to have to pick between two candidates I respect (instead of looking for the lesser of evils.)

€uroMeinke 02-05-2008 10:46 PM

Ideologically I find Hillary and Obama about the same. I think Hillary does have the claim of experience in that she knows she has to make deals to get things done - but e3xpect a lot of political theater because no Republican is going to want to be seen as making deals with her.

Obama on the other hand may spend the first part of his presidency pursuing his ideals and geting nowhere (like Clinton and Health Care) then he'll get down to bargaining and be seen as a sell out by the democrats, but easier for the republicans to deal with.

As much as either would like to get out of Iraq, they'll discover quickly that that is no easy proposition as the republicans will start criticizing the costs of the war.

Of course on the other side, neither republican will be able to advance their agenda either, though both will be able to make deals with the democrats and be seen as sell outs to their party faithful.

They will continue to support the war, but take a lot of heat for fuzzy definitions of what "winning" is as the public gets bored and annoyed with our increaingly senseless mission.

BarTopDancer 02-05-2008 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Motorboat Cruiser (Post 189601)
California just called for Hillary and McCain. And now I'll be questioning my decision for the foreseeable future. I wish I could say "I'm positive I did the right thing" but it isn't that easy.

If it helps, it's unlikely Obama lost by one vote.

LSPoorEeyorick 02-05-2008 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by €uroMeinke (Post 189611)
Obama on the other hand may spend the first part of his presidency pursuing his ideals and geting nowhere...

Maybe I'm naive, but I'm already impressed that:

-The two major dems have not run mud-slinging ads
-The two major dems are both minorities (so to speak)
-One of them, ideals notwithstanding, has not taken money from lobbyists
-Both of them have made it past Super Tuesday with votes and dignity intact

If the early campaigning can change this much for the better, then I'm just going to keep believing that other things can change for the better, too.

Ghoulish Delight 02-05-2008 11:47 PM

Most outlets are projecting that once things shake out on the democratic side, it will be a "virtual tie". Obama won the larger share of delegates in more states, while Clinton won the larger share in the larger states, so it's balancing out. Far from over and I for one am hoping potential Obama voters in upcoming primaries see that bigger picture and don't just focus on Clinton's high profile California/NY wins.

Motorboat Cruiser 02-05-2008 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BarTopDancer (Post 189613)
If it helps, it's unlikely Obama lost by one vote.

Well, I already knew that but, yes, it does help a little. :)

I don't know. I'm still a little shocked because, although I voted for her, I didn't really expect her to win. But as that shock wears off a little, I'm being a little less hard on myself. I did what I thought was best and I participated in the process. I'm ok with that.


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