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Not Afraid 06-23-2008 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by LSPoorEeyorick (Post 219936)
I don't want something as destructive as meth or heroin to be easily-accessible. Sure, anything can be misused - but reading, for instance, Freakonomics' chapter on crack... I just don't really want to encourage destructive behavior with things that can be so easily destructive.

But, yet, alcohol - which is probably the MOST destructive of substances (or possibly tobacco) remains legal.

I know WHY alcohol will remain legal, I just don't get why the other drugs shouldn't be as well.

Morrigoon 06-23-2008 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Motorboat Cruiser (Post 219444)
Isn't it also possible that those behavioral/personality issues were pre-existing and not a result of pot use?

Perhaps, but I think it's very easy for people to mistake the effects that drug use has on one's personality as something emanating from the person's natural personality instead.

Because the main result (when not high) of regular pot use that I've observed is wild mood swings (the kind that lead to dangerous or violent behavior), I can see how someone might mistake that as being a natural personality flaw, rather than a side effect of someone's use of pot.

innerSpaceman 06-23-2008 01:02 PM

Wild Mood Swings? Dangerous or Violent Behavior?


Sorry, Cindy, but these are NOT things endemic to marijuana AT ALL.

If the person or persons you know had these reactions to pot use, then there was something specific to them which resulted in these completely oddball and totally atypical reactions.

Kevy Baby 06-23-2008 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman (Post 219967)
Wild Mood Swings? Dangerous or Violent Behavior?


Sorry, Cindy, but these are NOT things endemic to marijuana AT ALL.

I gotta side with iSm on this one. Those are not typical reactions to MJ.

Betty 06-23-2008 01:54 PM

I'm not ganging up - I swear - but I have to throw in a I agree to the boys.

Have you ever heard of someone OD-ing on pot?

innerSpaceman 06-23-2008 02:45 PM

And mood swings / violent behavior are completely typical of alcohol. Yet it's legal. The complete peace and tranquillity associated with pot? Illegal.


Yeah, our drug laws are beyond fvcked up.

Capt Jack 06-23-2008 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Betty (Post 219983)
Have you ever heard of someone OD-ing on pot?

I dont know that (beyond fragging your lungs unto non-functioning status) its even possible before passing out altogether. any withdrawls encountered are (from experience) far and away more psychological than physical (that is, akin to taking away a babies 'binky' )

Kevy Baby 06-23-2008 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Betty (Post 219983)
Have you ever heard of someone OD-ing on pot?

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Originally Posted by Capt Jack (Post 219995)
I dont know that (beyond fragging your lungs unto non-functioning status) its even possible before passing out altogether. any withdrawls encountered are (from experience) far and away more psychological than physical (that is, akin to taking away a babies 'binky' )

I am sure that there have been instances where someone HAS had outbursts of wild mood swings and dangerous or violent behavior - in fact we have one reported case of it here on the board (I do not doubt Morri's take on the situation), and I am sure that in the course of history, there have been others. But it would be the exception and definitely not the rule.

Any drug can have differing effects on different people (see my previous post about drug baby reactions).

PanTheMan 06-23-2008 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by PanTheMan (Post 219841)
Jeeez... Made me go look that up... ;)

http://www.medicalmarijuanaprocon.or...athreports.htm

And those aren't even the numbers that include Alcohol and Tobacco related deaths. Even cancer deaths are no-existant. The average cigarette smoker will smoke 20 cigs a day, 10-15 drags per cig. Pot Smoker? Far less drags, far less tar, zero additives, etc...

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Originally Posted by scaeagles (Post 219862)
This brings up an issue, though.

There is a trend to lace MJ with other drugs to make it addictive. So when doing MJ, three is usually another drug involved without the knowledge of the user.

Speaking of additives.... This is a false rumor/wives tale/urban legend of the highest order. It was said when I was in High School, the dealers were lacing MJ with Cocaine or Herion. Lace a $2 joint with a $100 a gram substance? Never happened.

I do know of people who would lace thier own stuff.

But even IF MJ was laced, all the more reason to legalize it, or buy Medical MJ, as you know it is clean.

Morrigoon 06-23-2008 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman (Post 219967)
Wild Mood Swings? Dangerous or Violent Behavior?


Sorry, Cindy, but these are NOT things endemic to marijuana AT ALL.

If the person or persons you know had these reactions to pot use, then there was something specific to them which resulted in these completely oddball and totally atypical reactions.

Multiple people.


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