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sleepyjeff 03-24-2010 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman (Post 318375)

Yeah, he had a fear of hell. But seeing as he seemed convinced what he thought was hell for a while really was not, I have a hard time believing fear of hell was paramount in his mind at the moment.

The three wishes were exactly in order and tied in directly with what happened earlier in the episode.

Wish 1...Wants wife back/kills for medicine.

Wish 2...Wants to avoid hell/asks priest to forgive his sins.

Wish 3...Wants to live forever/priest told him he didn't have time to make up for his sins.

Ghoulish Delight 03-24-2010 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman (Post 318375)
Sorry, where did the script say that? I must have missed it. You're welcome to your interpretation.
From memory, so no exact quotes but the exchange was...

Ricardo: Can you bring my wife back?
Jacob: No can do.
Ricardo: Can you absolve me of my sins so I don't got to Hell?
Jacob: That's a negative
Ricardo: Then I want to live forever.

I'm 99% sure that last one IS an exact quote, the "then" being the key. He realized what dying meant - not seeing his wife, and going to hell. Without a way out of that, living forever was a better choice than death, even as he knew that living forever would be its own torture.

Ghoulish Delight 03-24-2010 10:59 AM
I wonder how that episode sounded to native Spanish speakers. Because I barely needed the subtitles - which means it was a whole lot of Spanish 1, because my Spanish is NOT that good anymore. The dialog must have sounded pretty cheeseball to a native speaker.

JWBear 03-24-2010 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight (Post 318385)
I wonder how that episode sounded to native Spanish speakers. Because I barely needed the subtitles - which means it was a whole lot of Spanish 1, because my Spanish is NOT that good anymore. The dialog must have sounded pretty cheeseball to a native speaker.
Some of the native speakers on another board (*cough* televisionwithoutpity *cough*) complemented it for being easy to understand. Apparently, a lot of Spanish on TV is spoken with terrible gringo accents...

SzczerbiakManiac 03-24-2010 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by SzczerbiakManiac (Post 317813)
A thought just occurred to me. We know it's impossible to get to the island unless one approaches at exactly the right angle. What if this is not so much to keep people out, but to keep MIB in?
Looks like I may have been on to something. (Sorry for the gloat, it's just so rare that I get anything right.)

I have another theory. As of "Recon" (last week's episode) I think that Jacob and MiB are brothers. Does anyone know of a famous pair of brothers, one named Jacob (or something similar) who was good and the other brother evil?

JWBear 03-24-2010 11:34 AM
Jacob & Esau come to mind.

Ghoulish Delight 03-24-2010 11:45 AM
Esau was a name used for MIB by a lot of people when he first appeared. And it definitely fits, what with the attempts to kill each other.

SzczerbiakManiac 03-24-2010 11:49 AM
Did Jacob & Esau have a crazy mother?

Ghoulish Delight 03-24-2010 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by SzczerbiakManiac (Post 318397)
Did Jacob & Esau have a crazy mother?
Not crazy, but Jacob is the favored son in the story.

JWBear 03-24-2010 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by SzczerbiakManiac (Post 318397)
Did Jacob & Esau have a crazy mother?
No, but Locke did.


(Edited to add the link.)


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