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€uroMeinke 11-20-2009 08:12 PM

Is Yage still possible?
 
So Forgive me in advance for any invocation of the "general you" - but recent events found me reading a tweet about yaging from a message board - and so I started to wonder with today's multi-channel social networks is it really possible to yage anymore? Can one really leave a "community" if many of the community are also connected by other means - Facebook, Twitter, MySpace, LiveJournal, linked-in, Bright kite, yahoo, AIM, etc.

There are very few people who I interact with in only one place, If I wanted to "exit" I would probably have to spend a day editing friend lists, buddy lists, followers, fans, etc. Far too much work to bother with it seems as I have a hard enough time weeding through redundant replicated status messages.

So I wonder, are we too connected to disconnect?

Alex 11-20-2009 08:38 PM

For me it would be mostly possible. When I think about it I realize that even though I participate on several message boards, Facebook, LiveJournal, and Twitter, there isn't really a whole lot of widescale overlap.

Some, but I could do a pretty clean job of severing part of the whole.

BarTopDancer 11-20-2009 08:39 PM

If you really want to do it, it's possible. However, as YAGE has come to imply, a YAGEer normally returns, the cycle repeats and they are gone again.

Alex 11-20-2009 08:40 PM

Oh, though I don't really know if you can YAGE from one forum in another forum. I'm assuming I am correctly inferring what you're referencing, but it happened completely outside the sphere of what I can see.

Not Afraid 11-20-2009 09:36 PM

I just usually remove the offending YAGEr from my various networks solving the problem for them.

€uroMeinke 11-21-2009 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex (Post 306911)
Oh, though I don't really know if you can YAGE from one forum in another forum. I'm assuming I am correctly inferring what you're referencing, but it happened completely outside the sphere of what I can see.

You know, I'm not sure - I learned of the Yage, or potential yage from a different channel, but that doesn't mean it started there. But I guess to my point, it doesn't seem to matter what with the interconnectedness and all.

€uroMeinke 11-21-2009 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Not Afraid (Post 306912)
I just usually remove the offending YAGEr from my various networks solving the problem for them.


See, but that's just another example of the inability to yage, since to really work, it requires non-yagers to take action if the exit is really to be an exit.

wendybeth 11-21-2009 01:50 AM

I think it's possible to YAGE completely, but requires far more thought and energy than I'm willing to commit. It would just be easier to not pay the utility, phone and internet bills- that would pretty much guarantee a successful YAGE. :D

Alex 11-21-2009 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by €uroMeinke (Post 306924)
You know, I'm not sure - I learned of the Yage, or potential yage from a different channel, but that doesn't mean it started there. But I guess to my point, it doesn't seem to matter what with the interconnectedness and all.

But the whole point of a YAGE is to dramatically storm off in front of the people you're YAGE-ing, otherwise it is just a HWDSASG?IJRHOSHBPL. And while some of the people on the message board may see such declarations elsewhere it is by no means guaranteed and assuming that I'm right about the YAGE I don't believe any such thing was done.

My point is, I feel left out.

lashbear 11-21-2009 07:57 AM

I love Tweeting too !!


lashbear

"Quite a fun discussion of YAGEs on the LoT. I love those guys."

Kevy Baby 11-21-2009 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by €uroMeinke (Post 306907)
So Forgive me in advance for any invocation of the "general you" - but recent events found me reading a tweet about yaging from a message board - and so I started to wonder with today's multi-channel social networks is it really possible to yage anymore? Can one really leave a "community" if many of the community are also connected by other means - Facebook, Twitter, MySpace, LiveJournal, linked-in, Bright kite, yahoo, AIM, etc.

I believe Alex and others have said the same thing, but I I think these are two different things:
  1. YAGE-ing (the act act of making a flamboyant exit for the purpose of being an attention whore)
  2. disconnecting socially

One can still YAGE quite successfully, but it takes a true effort to disconnect completely



And for those who don't know, YAGE is an acronym for Yet Another Grand Exit.

JWBear 11-21-2009 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex (Post 306938)
HWDSASG?IJRHOSHBPL

???

Ghoulish Delight 11-21-2009 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevy Baby (Post 306940)
I believe Alex and others have said the same thing, but I I think these are two different things:
  1. YAGE-ing (the act act of making a flamboyant exit for the purpose of being an attention whore)
  2. disconnecting socially

Yes, but YAGE carries the image of being at a party, throwing your hands up in exasperation, declaring your contempt, and storming out of the room in a huff. And then no one sees you until you, and everyone, calms down and you come skulking back in the room.

Now if you try that, you're throwing your your hands up in exasperation, declaring your contempt, and...storming to another corner of the room where there are still some people, and you kinda grumble to yourself and them, then you kinda talk to those people while the party is still going on, you just don't go to the dance floor for a while. It's just not the same.

Gn2Dlnd 11-21-2009 01:10 PM

If there's no YAGE statement on the board being YAGEd from, I don't think it qualifies. By using exploratory language in other forums, one retains plausible deniability and puts people "on notice," and reserves the right to storm back into the room whenever one wants.

So, to answer Chris's question, yes, I think I could YAGE from a particular board and keep my overlapping social networks open. I could ban the meanies from my other networks, but it's not very effective. And if I don't actually YAGE from a specific place, I haven't successfully YAGEd. Putting people on ignore is not a YAGE.

Unsuccessful YAGEr unsuccessfully YAGEs.

Alex 11-21-2009 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JWBear (Post 306950)
???

Hey, where did so and so go? I just realized he or she hasn't been posting lately.

JWBear 11-21-2009 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex (Post 306971)
Hey, where did so and so go? I just realized he or she hasn't been posting lately.

Ah. Thanks.

Mousey Girl 11-21-2009 07:19 PM

The key letter in YAGE is A.

To me, that means that the person in question is once again YAGEing. I always put the emphasis on Another.

€uroMeinke 11-21-2009 11:09 PM

But is that a personal "another" or an "another" of the community? If that later what is one's "first" YAGE called?

Cadaverous Pallor 11-21-2009 11:33 PM

I think it's more that Grand Exits are a predictable device in internet communities in general, so that even when it's the first time a certain person has stormed of in a puff of drama, it's still Yet Another in the grand scheme of things.

Bornieo: Fully Loaded 11-22-2009 12:18 AM

Some time ago I YAGE'd but not a real YAGE in the defined sense because I wasn't attempting drama but used the term so folks would understand what I was doing. Granted I knew I'd be back in some form eventually. I disconnected with everyone for what I thought was nessesary for my own good. Sometimes you just have to.

Gn2Dlnd 11-22-2009 01:41 AM

Yeah, you didn't YAGE, you took a sabbatical.

Mousey Girl 11-22-2009 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor (Post 307001)
I think it's more that Grand Exits are a predictable device in internet communities in general, so that even when it's the first time a certain person has stormed of in a puff of drama, it's still Yet Another in the grand scheme of things.

This is more of what I meant.

The other part is that as often as I have seen YAGEing (not a hiatus), the person ends up returning. Even if they no longer post, they are still checking to see what has been said about them.

lindyhop 11-22-2009 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevy Baby (Post 306940)
And for those who don't know, YAGE is an acronym for Yet Another Grand Exit.

Thanks, Kevy. I'm acronym-impaired.


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