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JWBear 07-28-2010 06:34 PM

America in Color from 1939-1943
 
Very cool

Motorboat Cruiser 07-28-2010 06:47 PM

What an amazing set of pictures. Thanks for sharing!

innerSpaceman 07-28-2010 06:48 PM

Hot damn, what a find.

I'll have to give it more attention when I've got some more free time, because what a treasure.

So far, I'm loving how the news was relayed at Brockton Enterprises. We have something similar at my building that displays changing headline stories from the internet. That this sort of thing was done by hand boggles my mind.


Oh, and that Jack Whinery is one fine-lookin' fella.

I guess the five kids mean he was straight, but perhaps it was just the mores of the day that forced him into an unwanted marriage. Even if he wasn't playing for our team - damn he was hot!

Ya know, in a great depression kinda way. :rolleyes:

Alex 07-28-2010 06:52 PM

Unpossible. It is well known that the world was black and white until about 1958 when 20 years of color movies proved it wasn't just a passing fad and the United Nations finally passed colorization.

Not Afraid 07-28-2010 07:14 PM

Lovely color and amazing photographs! I loved seeing the 1930's dress prints in vivid color. Even the reproductions are faded like the quilts these fabrics sometimes became.

It is interesting that the West is sparsely represented here. There is one picture from California.

Gemini Cricket 07-28-2010 07:19 PM

I like it. I certainly do.
:)

Tref 07-28-2010 07:58 PM

Ilikeit!

lashbear 07-28-2010 08:11 PM

Is this Rosie The Riveter?

Alex 07-28-2010 08:15 PM

I almost made a joke that would have best been in the tasteless joke thread and even then I'd probably have gotten in trouble.

Snowflake 07-28-2010 08:36 PM

:snap: :cheers:

What an incredible find! Fantastic photos!

lashbear 07-28-2010 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex (Post 330225)
I almost made a joke that would have best been in the tasteless joke thread and even then I'd probably have gotten in trouble.

Oh, Cmon! We have to hear this one.

Alex 07-28-2010 08:51 PM

By the way, the entire 1700 photograph FSA color photo archive is available online at the Library of Congress:

http://www.loc.gov/pictures/search?s...&c=100&co=fsac

If you want to see the 170,000 black and white photographs produced by the same program that would be here:

http://www.loc.gov/pictures/search?st=grid&c=100&co=fsa

If old color photographs fascinate you, you might also be interested in these from Russia in the period 1906-1915:

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/service/pnp/pp...800/04842r.jpg

Example:



The online catalog of the Prints & Photographs Reading Room is, in general, just an amazing resource.

Alex 07-28-2010 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by lashbear (Post 330230)
Oh, Cmon! We have to hear this one.

Trust me, you don't. I'm ashamed of me.

Capt Jack 07-28-2010 09:14 PM

my dad was already off fighting the war at the tender age of 19 or 20 when a lot of these pictures were taken. an incredible look at the world he often talked about, but I could never truly imagine.

even seeing it, its hard to imagine

endless thanks for those

JWBear 07-28-2010 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by lashbear (Post 330224)

One of them.

JWBear 07-28-2010 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex (Post 330231)
By the way, the entire 1700 photograph FSA color photo archive is available online at the Library of Congress:

http://www.loc.gov/pictures/search?s...&c=100&co=fsac

Ooooo.... Thanks!

lashbear 07-28-2010 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex (Post 330232)
Trust me, you don't. I'm ashamed of me.

Well, you've killed my cat, but I'll let it go for now. ;)

Cadaverous Pallor 07-29-2010 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex (Post 330231)
If old color photographs fascinate you, you might also be interested in these from Russia in the period 1906-1915:

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/service/pnp/pp...800/04842r.jpg

Links only to the image.

Alex 07-29-2010 08:49 AM

Whoops. It is the Prokudin-Gorskii Collection, accessible from the general link at the end of my post.

But here's the gallery link for that collection:

http://www.loc.gov/pictures/search?s...&c=100&co=prok

Cadaverous Pallor 07-29-2010 10:45 AM

It's funny how easy it is to think that these people lived black and white lives.

innerSpaceman 07-29-2010 11:07 AM

It's funny how easy it is to forget that color is entirely a product of our brain and our perception, and does not exist in nature.

They DID live in a black and white world, as do we. Color is added by us.


[/obnoxious tangent]



oh, but one of the things I loved about Wings of Desire is that the angels could see only in black and white, because it revealed the true nature of things (black and white photography is wonderful for this). Yet the one angel was so envious of humans, who experienced the universe in color.

Cadaverous Pallor 07-29-2010 11:30 AM

Um, color is real. Subjective, but real.

JWBear 07-29-2010 12:50 PM

My mother remembers the 30's (and a good portion of the 20's as well). She assurs me that things were in color back then, just like now.

Snowflake 07-29-2010 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JWBear (Post 330293)
My mother remembers the 30's (and a good portion of the 20's as well). She assurs me that things were in color back then, just like now.

Did they talk too?

Say, OT to everyone but me, does your Mom have any recollection of Valentino being around or when he died? Just curious!

JWBear 07-29-2010 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Snowflake (Post 330294)
Say, OT to everyone but me, does your Mom have any recollection of Valentino being around or when he died? Just curious!

She was only two years old, so I doubt it.

Snowflake 07-29-2010 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JWBear (Post 330295)
She was only two years old, so I doubt it.

Okay, "a good portion of the 20's" led me to assume otherwise, sorry! I just made an ass out of myself!

Alex 07-29-2010 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman (Post 330277)
It's funny how easy it is to forget that color is entirely a product of our brain and our perception, and does not exist in nature.

CP already commented but I'm curious about this comment as well. Perception of color can vary but "color" is an objective attribute in the sense that the electromagnetic wavelengths emitted and reflected are the same regardless of observer.

DreadPirateRoberts 07-29-2010 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex (Post 330298)
CP already commented but I'm curious about this comment as well. Perception of color can vary but "color" is an objective attribute in the sense that the electromagnetic wavelengths emitted and reflected are the same regardless of observer.

True, but can the same be said for the rods and cones in the eye of the observer?

Alex 07-29-2010 01:47 PM

As I said, "perception of color can vary." But it is entirely possible to determine that something is green without rods and cones being involved.

But that is not the same thing as the world is black and white and color is simply a creation of perception. Any more than light is a creation of perception since the ability to see it can vary from person to person.

JWBear 07-29-2010 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Snowflake (Post 330297)
Okay, "a good portion of the 20's" led me to assume otherwise, sorry! I just made an ass out of myself!

No you didn't. I should have said "part of the 20's" instead of "a good portion of the 20's". I typed without really thinking about it.

JWBear 07-29-2010 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex (Post 330303)
But it is entirely possible to determine that something is green without rods and cones being involved.

Indeed. If what iSm said were true, then those paint color matching machines at the hardware stores wouldn't work.

Ghoulish Delight 07-29-2010 02:34 PM

Or, more to the point, even if you DO accept the philosophically valid position that color is only perception, it does not therefore follow that black and white is a "truer" state of the world since describing things as black and white still requires accepting 99.999999% of what makes color "only perception" as true. If you aren't acknowledging the perception of color as true, than why are you acknowledging the perception of shape, space, depth, time, matter, opacity, density, etc., etc. as true?

Kevy Baby 07-29-2010 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JWBear (Post 330310)
Indeed. If what iSm said were true, then those paint color matching machines at the hardware stores wouldn't work.

In case anyone cares, the devices are called a spectrophotometer (they are used quite a bit in the printing industry).

If you want, I can bore you silly with discussions on color theory, additive vs. subtractive color, etc. Hey: I took an entire course on this, I have to impress somebody with my knowledge.

alphabassettgrrl 07-29-2010 04:04 PM

I liked that one of a Rosie, too. Something about the look on her face, holding that hammer (I think it was a hammer, wasn't it?) really struck me.


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