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€uroMeinke 10-16-2010 02:40 PM

LoT Facebook group
 
So I created a Lounge of Tomorrow Facebook group and added a bunch of you, but in case I missed someone, let me know and I'll add you if you're interested - or if you're not on Facebook if you think we should add your mother.

JWBear 10-16-2010 02:50 PM

It looks like you missed a lot (LoT... Hehe) of us.

Ghoulish Delight 10-16-2010 02:53 PM

Faceboook Groups - the world's latest in snubbing technology.

They should have called it "Cliques". Then I might have been interested in it.

innerSpaceman 10-16-2010 03:08 PM

Yep, all I thought was cliques are us. Perfect way to rid facebook of all the benefit I get out of it. (Which is stuff, ideas, links, photos, and news shared by the widest variety of people).


That said, I think a LoT group is a really good idea. Can I join?

€uroMeinke 10-16-2010 03:22 PM

Heh - I'm waiting to see if this is the LoT killer

€uroMeinke 10-16-2010 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JWBear (Post 335130)
It looks like you missed a lot (LoT... Hehe) of us.

Yeah, not sure Facebook has the best interface for adding folks, as I seem to have already added many who are requesting to be added - maybe using old email addresses or just some odd lag-time going on. In any event I suspect before long everyone except Parmesan Jim will be there soon.

Ghoulish Delight 10-16-2010 03:28 PM

And Kevy.

I need to check the settings, can I opt out of being emailed when someone posts to a group. If not, and it gets active, I imagine I will be removing myself from any groups.

€uroMeinke 10-16-2010 04:04 PM

In your account setting under notifications you can select when or when you don't want Facebook to email you

Alex 10-16-2010 04:14 PM

Am I understanding things that my membership in this group is publicly available information? Is it possible for someone searching for me to learn that (that it not by searching for Lounge of Tomorrow but by searching for me)?

€uroMeinke 10-16-2010 04:41 PM

Currently the membership is public but you bring up a good point in that here while membership is "public" in some sense there is the veil of the screen name - I shall make it a secret society and hide the membership - much more fun and cliquish that way

Gn2Dlnd 10-16-2010 06:26 PM

Oh ho ho. The mom joke. Y'know, I use it as a bit of a punchline, but my family dynamics are such that a bit of busybodyness on the part of my mom back in December has resulted in a rift between her mother, sister, and niece. All due to her getting involved with a FB entry from a nephew of my stepfather. I need this convoluted shiat in my own life? No, I do not. The common wisdom seems to be that I'm somehow over-reacting, or that my concerns could all be addressed through FB's privacy settings. So, I did some poking around on teh intarwebs to find out what problems other people might have with FB. Mainly because I kept hearing about Mark Zuckerberg's slippery grasp of privacy and property. Sadly, I have not been reassured. So, while it sounds like a swell time will be had by all, for now I'm going to remain Facebook free. If I could set up a trial account, and back out of it if I didn't dig it, I might feel better. Apparently, though, closing a FB account is next to impossible. Wikipedia has an illuminating article on the whole thing. I'm sure it was written by the same crazy people who think that climate change is real, and that the homo-sex is a valid lifestyle choice.

Still available by snail mail, e-mail, cell phone, text message, twitter, the LoT, micechat, sky-writing, and, God forbid, in person,

Jim

Moonliner 10-16-2010 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by €uroMeinke (Post 335148)
Currently the membership is public but you bring up a good point in that here while membership is "public" in some sense there is the veil of the screen name - I shall make it a secret society and hide the membership - much more fun and cliquish that way

Secret. Hide. Facebook. Uh yeah, experience shows it really doesn't work that way.

Ghoulish Delight 10-16-2010 07:07 PM

My mom's on facebook. She has not seen anything that I did not intend her to see.

Of course she's not crazy. Well, not maliciously crazy (she did call today to be sure CP passed along to me the medicare mass mailer postcard with my name on it).

Gn2Dlnd 10-16-2010 07:14 PM

Well, my mom isn't maliciously crazy either, but the the mom-force is very strong with her.

Chernabog 10-16-2010 07:26 PM

Hmmmmmmm I cant find the facebook Lot

Chernabog 10-16-2010 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gn2Dlnd
/wiki/Criticism_of_Facebook"]Still available by snail mail, e-mail, cell phone, text message, twitter, the LoT, micechat, sky-writing, and, God forbid, in person,

And I would still rather have a wasp's nest shoved up my pooper than start tweeting. So I get it. To each their own social media time waster. :)

€uroMeinke 10-16-2010 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chernabog (Post 335160)
Hmmmmmmm I cant find the facebook Lot

It's a secret now

€uroMeinke 10-16-2010 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chernabog (Post 335160)
Hmmmmmmm I cant find the facebook Lot

It's a secret now

Mousey Girl 10-16-2010 09:36 PM

*pout* I wanna be with the popular kids!!!

€uroMeinke 10-16-2010 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mousey Girl (Post 335168)
*pout* I wanna be with the popular kids!!!

Are you on Facebook?

Cadaverous Pallor 10-16-2010 10:33 PM

I've been snubbed.

Gn2Dlnd 10-16-2010 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by €uroMeinke (Post 335164)
It's a secret now

Quote:

Originally Posted by €uroMeinke (Post 335165)
It's a secret now

Is it on double secret probation?

€uroMeinke 10-17-2010 12:11 AM

that would be telling

LSPoorEeyorick 10-17-2010 12:31 PM

Miffed by the power of the exclusive clique! Am not included.

wendybeth 10-17-2010 12:33 PM

Chris, are you trying to tell us something?;) (My kid is in the group, but not me!)

:p

innerSpaceman 10-17-2010 12:43 PM

You have to be on facebook. Then just go to the group Lounge of Tomorrow (or is it unge of Tomor?) and hit the Request to Join button.



Has anyone besides me felt that LoT was on its last legs lately? It was suggested by somebody that we all just move over to facebook and carry on there. Not sure if this is what's going to happen with this Group (it doesn't seem able to robust enough to substitute even for the slimmed-down LoT of 2010, but who knows?)

Mousey Girl 10-17-2010 12:49 PM

Happy Dance time!!!

€uroMeinke 10-17-2010 12:53 PM

All great things come to an end - not that I'm angling to hasten our demise, but rather exploring ways we might evolve, and who knows what's yet around the corner - Friendster<MySpace<Facebook<?

Kevy Baby 10-17-2010 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman (Post 335182)
Has anyone besides me felt that LoT was on its last legs lately?

Not me

BarTopDancer 10-17-2010 01:21 PM

Not me either. I think we're all busy with our own things. I think moving over to FB wouldn't be a good idea - I'd post a heck of a lot less if I couldn't post at work.

Morrigoon 10-17-2010 01:21 PM

I think the format is different... Unge Tomor might replace the "Soooo...." thread, but other topic-based discussions, I doubt it.

€uroMeinke 10-17-2010 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BarTopDancer (Post 335190)
I'd post a heck of a lot less if I couldn't post at work.

That's what smart phones are for

Mousey Girl 10-17-2010 01:47 PM

I don't see it as the end of the LoT at all. There are a lot of things that I would post here that I won't post on FB.

€uroMeinke 10-17-2010 01:48 PM

I seem to still be having trouble inviting everyone over, but it seems any member can invite others to join so, those of you who are there, if you see anyone missing go ahead and invite them in.

BarTopDancer 10-17-2010 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by €uroMeinke (Post 335194)
That's what smart phones are for

It's much easier to load a webpage on a computer and pop back and forth between that page and something else then it is to look at one page on my phone. However LoT goes is where it goes. I'd probably get a lot more done at work if I wasn't posting.

Moonliner 10-17-2010 05:34 PM

If it ain't broke don't fix it.

Gn2Dlnd 10-17-2010 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman (Post 335182)

Has anyone besides me felt that LoT was on its last legs lately?

Really? Maybe A.D.D. really was the correct acronym for this group. :rolleyes:

wendybeth 10-17-2010 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mousey Girl (Post 335195)
I don't see it as the end of the LoT at all. There are a lot of things that I would post here that I won't post on FB.

What she says! Look at my status page on FB- very impersonal, just general info and boring status updates, designed to make FB think that it's not just a Mafia Wars profile. :D This is my online home, not FB.

alphabassettgrrl 10-17-2010 09:03 PM

I won't abandon the LoT! I find the FB format difficult, and I can see it being even moreso if it gets more than a couple threads going. I like the format here a zillion times better.

And yeah, I would post things here that I don't think would be good on FB.

Alex 10-17-2010 09:05 PM

If Facebook is the evolution of here, then I'll probably be left behind (not that such is an argument against whatever evolution happens). I'm unlikely to add the group to the very limited filter I use for what I read on Facebook.

The purpose of here is to have conversations (for me, anyway). Facebook is horrible for anything but the most minimal of conversation (in my experience).

Plus, despite current settings I don't trust FB to not have random bouts of screwing up privacy settings and having anything I say in a secret group temperorarily or permanently exposed. So I'm not going to say anything interesting even if I did participate.

But I've kept the group membership in case I'm wrong (I was, for a while, wrong about twitter) but if you notice I've eventually left the group, that's why. Nothing personal.

alphabassettgrrl 10-17-2010 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex (Post 335211)
The purpose of here is to have conversations (for me, anyway). Facebook is horrible for anything but the most minimal of conversation (in my experience).

Plus, despite current settings I don't trust FB to not have random bouts of screwing up privacy settings and having anything I say in a secret group temperorarily or permanently exposed. So I'm not going to say anything interesting even if I did participate.

I'm with you here. But it's worth looking at.

Cadaverous Pallor 10-17-2010 10:44 PM

FB is not a replacement for the LoT by a looooong shot.

Ghoulish Delight 10-17-2010 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman (Post 335182)
You have to be on facebook. Then just go to the group Lounge of Tomorrow (or is it unge of Tomor?) and hit the Request to Join button.

You've been saying that since day 5 of the LoT.

innerSpaceman 10-18-2010 01:28 AM

Odd that you stay that Alex. I find Facebook to be exactly like LoT. People post something and, if it sparks an interest, people respond and keep responding in what becomes an actual thread.

I don't think a single Group will naturally produce the variety of threads necessary to imitate a message board - but since theoretically the membership of the real LoT and the facebook LoT are the same, there is nothing to stop that from happening. The threads just don't get convenient names.

BarTopDancer 10-18-2010 08:21 AM

The biggest annoyance so far is the constant notifications on FB that someone new has joined or commented. I can't find a way to disable that.

Ghoulish Delight 10-18-2010 08:27 AM

For each post there is an "unsubscribe" button.

I'm with Alex, I don't find Facebook's interface very comfortable for long-form conversation.

Betty 10-18-2010 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevy Baby (Post 335186)
Not me

I concur.

DreadPirateRoberts 10-18-2010 09:28 AM

I couldn't lurk as well on facebook.

Gn2Dlnd 10-18-2010 10:59 AM

Arr, and a fine lurker ye be.

Strangler Lewis 10-18-2010 11:37 AM

I concur in the above dissents.

Boss Radio 10-18-2010 12:22 PM

It's the people, not the venue. That being said, because I have ADD and am all over the place all the time, FB is my window. Elvis would have agreed.

Cadaverous Pallor 10-18-2010 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BarTopDancer (Post 335235)
The biggest annoyance so far is the constant notifications on FB that someone new has joined or commented. I can't find a way to disable that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight (Post 335237)
For each post there is an "unsubscribe" button.

Also, on the group page there's an "Edit Settings" button on the upper right.

cirquelover 10-18-2010 01:49 PM

I think I'm one of the last people on the planet that doesn't have FB but I don't see a need for it. I also don't need my Mom and uber religious/crazy Aunt looking through my stuff. My nephew is having that issue but for some reason they haven't found my son yet! Lucky boy.

I am happy here on LoT and that is where I will stay. Have fun though!

Gn2Dlnd 10-18-2010 01:54 PM

^ See? SEE!?!

innerSpaceman 10-18-2010 02:01 PM

Whatever. I'm fine to stop by here once in a while. But the fact of life in America today, is that I'm hardly unusual in saying I'm on Facebook ALL DAY LONG.

Gn2Dlnd 10-18-2010 02:12 PM

I'm not sure what to make of that little factoid. Guess I'm just unAmurrican.

cirquelover 10-18-2010 02:16 PM

I'll be standing right next to you Jim.

I guess at least we can talk that way, like real Americans used to ;)

Alex 10-18-2010 02:18 PM

Ok, checked it out.

It's been two days. When will someone say something other than "Hey! This is Facebook!"

So changing the settings seems to have stopped the emails, any way to get it to stop telling me when I log in how many updates there have been to the group?

Gn2Dlnd 10-18-2010 02:33 PM

Who's going to start the "From Facebook" thread, in which everything posted there is reposted here? ;)

blueerica 10-18-2010 02:51 PM

Why is this in any way a big deal?

Added - maybe that came off with the wrong tone. I'm not seeing why we're talking about Facebook vs No Facebook.

Gn2Dlnd 10-18-2010 03:20 PM

I don't know that we are. Are we? Is it coming off that way? I don't care if LoT has a FB presence, my mom will finally be able to catch up on all the comings and goings around here. ;)

Kevy Baby 10-18-2010 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman (Post 335290)
Whatever. I'm fine to stop by here once in a while. But the fact of life in America today, is that I'm hardly unusual in saying I'm on Facebook ALL DAY LONG.

You know who else wasn't on Facebook: Adolph Hitler!!!

All of us not on FB must be Nazis!









Does it count as a Godwin if the intention is to get Godwined?

Gemini Cricket 10-18-2010 03:40 PM

Howard Johnson's right!

Kevy Baby 10-18-2010 03:41 PM

Rev'rent!

BarTopDancer 10-18-2010 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cirquelover (Post 335285)
I think I'm one of the last people on the planet that doesn't have FB but I don't see a need for it. I also don't need my Mom and uber religious/crazy Aunt looking through my stuff. My nephew is having that issue but for some reason they haven't found my son yet! Lucky boy.

I am happy here on LoT and that is where I will stay. Have fun though!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gn2Dlnd (Post 335287)
^ See? SEE!?!

I must be the only one capable of telling their mom "I'll add you to Facebook but you can't see anything" or "sure, I'll add you" then block everything.

I added my mom, filtered her out then called her up 2 weeks later (after asking her daily who random people were who kept trying to friend me) and said "mom, I have to delete you from Facebook. I am tired of cousins and friends of yours I have no recollection of ever meeting trying to add me"

Then again I'm waiting for her to try and add Erica. Apparently she's showing up as a suggested friend for her.

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueerica (Post 335298)
Why is this in any way a big deal?

Added - maybe that came off with the wrong tone. I'm not seeing why we're talking about Facebook vs No Facebook.

Why not? :p

alphabassettgrrl 10-18-2010 04:37 PM

You're on FB all day long??? Really? Huh.

I didn't think it was that interesting. Check it a couple times during the day, if I'm bored, sure, but nothing more than that.

JWBear 10-18-2010 04:58 PM

I would not be happy if LoT went away to be replaced by a FB group. There are many things I would not want to post on FB - even in a "secret" group. There is no such thing as privacy on FB.

I prefer the structured thread format and relative anonymity of LoT.

Gemini Cricket 10-18-2010 05:07 PM

I'm on FB all day, too. If my iPhone is on and it is usually sitting on the FB app. It helps me sell tickets for shows and stuff.

Strangler Lewis 10-18-2010 05:35 PM

Not to pick on GC, but I was just forced to open and read an e-mail about bacon.

BarTopDancer 10-18-2010 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alphabassettgrrl (Post 335318)
You're on FB all day long??? Really? Huh.

I didn't think it was that interesting. Check it a couple times during the day, if I'm bored, sure, but nothing more than that.

I could be "on FB all day long" on the weekends by having the window open. Then again I'm also on LoT all day long by those standards. Open windows, get distracted and walk away. Come back hours later.

€uroMeinke 10-18-2010 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boss Radio (Post 335271)
It's the people, not the venue


Agreed, and since some of us live more in that world than this I hoped to keep us all connected one way or another

Gemini Cricket 10-18-2010 06:26 PM

I live in my own world. The woodland elves tell me that all the time.

Alex 10-18-2010 06:55 PM

It's not a big deal to me. It is more of a curiosity deal. I'm curious as to what the value of a Facebook group, if any, ends up being. Since this group, for the most part exists for talking to each other, I don't see the value of saying that this talking (under the umbrella of the group) will happen in two different places. So either one or the other will fade away or the group will constantly be repeating itself in both locations (as with all the people who simply mirror everything they say to every social network site). Or a value will develop that I'm completely not thinking of.

And that which I find interesting to think about, I talk about.

For people who can't or won't use Facebook (I'm not in that camp because I use Facebook, I just don't use Facebook for the purpose filled by LoT), I can see why it might be a big deal for an important social circle to at least partially move to where they aren't.

Alex 10-18-2010 06:59 PM

Ok, I take that back. Just went back to Facebook and more **** related to the group was on my screen (some kind of chat window). Rather than tracking down how to turn off (I closed it, but it returned within a couple of minutes) everything I don't want to see I just left the group.

If it looks like I'm missing anything great and want back in I'll ask and you all can say no then.

alphabassettgrrl 10-18-2010 07:02 PM

I'm generally annoyed by online chat of any kind. I don't initiate FB chat, or yahoo mail chat, or any other format. I prefer the LoT thread, message board format. I can take things one bit at a time as opposed to trying to keep up with a live chat.

Moonliner 10-18-2010 07:13 PM

I see Lot People.

On the CNN home page. I'm not sure how I feel about that.

BarTopDancer 10-18-2010 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moonliner (Post 335330)
I see Lot People.

On the CNN home page. I'm not sure how I feel about that.

There's a setting you can disable.

€uroMeinke 10-18-2010 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex (Post 335328)
Ok, I take that back. Just went back to Facebook and more **** related to the group was on my screen (some kind of chat window). Rather than tracking down how to turn off (I closed it, but it returned within a couple of minutes) everything I don't want to see I just left the group.

If it looks like I'm missing anything great and want back in I'll ask and you all can say no then.

Lani's still there, she can reinstate you whenever you want

Alex 10-18-2010 07:33 PM

What makes you think she'd let a poseur like me in? She has standards.

blueerica 10-19-2010 07:34 AM

The chat thing rather freaked me out. Not sure how I feel about it, but minimizing it seems to bring me to a place where I look at it when I'm in the mood.

Moonliner 10-19-2010 07:42 AM

I agree on the chat. Whoever started that needs to be disciplined.

I'd suggest sending the perp NSFW links to scantly clad women. That would be a fitting punishment.

innerSpaceman 10-19-2010 02:32 PM

Last Night's LoT Live Chat on Facebook was something that cannot be done here on the real LoT. It was an interesting experiment, and might have some value.

Moonliner 10-22-2010 01:32 PM

Hey Lash:

This one is for you.

Stan4dSteph 10-22-2010 05:18 PM

I don't use Facebook for chat.

Kevy Baby 10-22-2010 08:37 PM

I don't use Facebook :)

BarTopDancer 10-22-2010 09:08 PM

I fixed it for you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevy Baby (Post 335628)
I don't use Facebook yet :)


Mousey Girl 10-23-2010 06:47 AM

I use FaceBook to chat with a friend in Utah. But an incident yesterday morning reminded me why I should keep it closed.

lashbear 10-23-2010 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moonliner (Post 335602)
Hey Lash:

This one is for you.

:D

...and here I was thinking you'd found me an App that has the groups included... :p

lashbear 10-23-2010 04:43 PM

Just eating my breakfast of home-made JD Maple Sausage with pancakes and eggs. 2 seconds ago · LikeUnlike

Moonliner 10-25-2010 06:21 PM

More fun with Facebook.

Plunder and pillage facebook the fun and easy way.

Stan4dSteph 10-25-2010 06:37 PM

And the useful link: How to protect yourself

Moonliner 10-25-2010 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stan4dSteph (Post 335822)
And the useful link: How to protect yourself

Excellent! Downloaded and installed.

I am now visiting facebook (and other sites) in Https nirvana so now the only ones I have to worry about stealing/sharing my data is facebook itself.

I would also recommend the GoogleSharing add-on for anonymizing your Google searches.

Kevy Baby 10-25-2010 07:17 PM

Here's another way to protect yourself:

Spoiler:

lashbear 10-26-2010 05:49 PM

OK, Kevy - I've got it stretched over the monitor... now what?

Alex 10-26-2010 10:13 PM

1. Wonder why everything is fuzzy.
2. Remove it.
3. Clean up.
4. Go buy one without spermicide.

Moonliner 10-27-2010 06:50 AM

You're doing it wrong. It goes over the keyboard.

Mousey Girl 10-29-2010 02:27 AM

If you remove someone from your friend's list, are they notified?

Moonliner 10-29-2010 03:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mousey Girl (Post 336187)
If you remove someone from your friend's list, are they notified?

Why, what did I do? I'm sorry. :(

Cadaverous Pallor 10-29-2010 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mousey Girl (Post 336187)
If you remove someone from your friend's list, are they notified?

No.

Mousey Girl 10-29-2010 10:15 AM

Thank you. there is someone I really need to get rid of, but if he figures it out....

Alex 10-29-2010 10:21 AM

That said, there are apps you can get that will tell you this.

For example, FriendsLog allows you to be notificed if a Friend:

Takes you off their friends list
Changes their name
Deactivates their account

So if it is important to you that the person never know then you probably shouldn't do it and just completely isolate them.

Mousey Girl 10-29-2010 10:32 AM

Thank you Alex. I have already done that.

Moonliner 10-29-2010 10:33 AM

Also if they try to look at your page won't they get a message about being blocked?

Or if they look at your list of friends...

Mousey Girl 10-29-2010 10:59 AM

Honest;y I don't think he much cares about my page. I mainly want to block him from being able to see when I am online, logged into chat.

Kevy Baby 10-29-2010 06:09 PM

Sometimes I am glad that I only borrow vaginas and don't actually own one. It seems like the owners are much more prone to stalkers.

Moonliner 10-29-2010 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevy Baby (Post 336228)
Sometimes I am glad that I only borrow vaginas and don't actually own one. It seems like the owners are much more prone to stalkers.

Really, one of the owners I know was attacked in the middle of the night. Had to go to the emergency room and everything.

(I trust she's doing better?)

Kevy Baby 10-29-2010 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moonliner (Post 336231)
(I trust she's doing better?)

In pain. The kind that Vicoden (and other medicines) cannot help that much.

Mousey Girl 10-30-2010 06:36 PM

I just told my FB stalker no...again. He has once again said he would not bother me anymore. The kid needs to get a life.

Mousey Girl 10-31-2010 01:17 PM

Stalker deleted me after I told him no and that I was seeing someone else. If I had known it would be that easy I would have lied and told him that a month ago.

Strangler Lewis 11-04-2010 02:03 PM

Three e-mails I bother to read=bacon, bacon, bacon.

Strangler Lewis 11-04-2010 07:51 PM

Make that four. I am out of the omelet.


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