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Moonliner 10-28-2005 10:07 AM

Am I a thief?
 
Am I a thief, immoral or just a savvy consumer?

I went into Subway for lunch today. I ordered a 6" Subway melt with double meat (very yummy). When I made it to the cashier she only charged me for a single meat sandwich. Had she asked me what I ordered I would have said "double meat". She never asked so I just paid the requested amount.

I did notice the error and could have spoken up but chose not to. If she had overcharged me I certainly would have not let it slide.

So am I thief? I ordered a product and paid the amount requested by the store.

Am I immoral? I did not go in with the intention to defraud.

Or just a savvy consumer?

Not Afraid 10-28-2005 10:25 AM

Is your conscious bothering you? You know the answer here.

Betty 10-28-2005 10:38 AM

That's what they get for running out of onions when I was there last. They are right next door to Stator Bros. but were out of onions for at least 2 days. So - they gave you extra meat for free to make up for my trouble. Sounds even to me. ;)

Gemini Cricket 10-28-2005 11:29 AM

Thief, thief!

The honest thing would have been to admit you got double meat.

I can't comment on your morality. The big guy in the sky with the beard and the eyes bearing down on you right now with the lightning bolts in his fists will ultimately be your judge. But he's busy right now, he's trying to quiet down Baby Jesus who is crying right now because of your sin.
Stealing meat is stealing meat.
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Whoa, I was just channelling my Catholic Portuguese grandmother. She told me the above once when I accidentally stole a bag of poi when I was 3. :D

What do I care about your sandwich?

:D

Capt Jack 10-28-2005 11:39 AM

not a thief.

Pirate maybe, but not a thief. :P

and subway? for all the times they hosed me on a regular sammich, I have little sympathy for their taking a loss on a bit extra.

I say, eat hardy and chalk it up to their crews mistake, not yours.

Stan4dSteph 10-28-2005 11:56 AM

The Subway double meat = regular sub anywhere else. They totally skimp on the meat there.

I got a grande maple macchiato today when I had only ordered a tall.

tracilicious 10-28-2005 03:25 PM

Hmmm...I dunno. Not a thief, but not completely honest either.

I encountered a similar situation recently. I took my change to a coinstar kiosk, dumped all my change, got my receipt, and then checked the bin where the coins that don't make it through go. I reached my hand in and felt a giant pile of change. It wasn't mine. Probably the last person that cashed in change cashed a whole bunch in and didn't think to check the bin. I briefly considered notifying a store manager, but decided it wasn't their money either. So I dumped it in the machine and got another receipt. Stealing? I don't think so. More like finding. But I suppose the most honest thing to do would have been to turn it in.

Disneyphile 10-28-2005 04:15 PM

Dude, it's a good thing it wasn't Burger King.

Can you imagine the King knocking on your door, asking for his meat back? :eek:

Gemini Cricket 10-28-2005 04:25 PM

When Ralphie and I went to see 'Good Night and Good Luck' the other night, we walked into the little theatre and there was no one in the box office. There was really no one anywhere. We could have just walked right in to see the movie, but we waited until someone showed up. About 5 minutes later, the concession stand guy showed up. Apparently he was the projectionist and the box office person, too. We bought our ticket and sat down. While we sat, a manager came out of nowhere and checked people's ticket stubs. *Whew* Glad we paid.
I really wanted my money to go to this film and I was glad we waited.
:)

Mousey Girl 10-28-2005 04:36 PM

I am one of those people who checks their change and if given too much I always return it. I don't know how many times I have done this at drive-thru windows only to be met with a blank stare. I also seldom get a thank you for it either.

AllyOops! 10-28-2005 04:49 PM

My office sits above a Subway. I live there.

The other day, in the lunchtime crunch, I ordered a large diet coke and got like, the teensiest cup. Because I was in a rush, I took the cup and bolted. What was I thinking? I got jipped!

Those thieving bastards. :mad: (I'm just teasing! :p) They got my extra moolah! So, I give that money to you, Moonliner. To donate toward your extra meat. :) All is right in the change till, and all is karmically right in the world again (at least I hope so!) :)

Alex 10-28-2005 05:20 PM

Theif? No. They accepted what you paid in exchange for what they gave you. It's kind of like them signing a contract you know has a clause to your advantage but it is their responsibility to find it.

Immoral? Not really, for the same reason. Ultimately the responsibility falls on the Subway to charge the correct price.

But I'd still say you should have brought it to the clerk's attention. If for no other reason that to possibly make her life easier. I doubt that Subway can keep track with sufficient accuracy to know at the end of the day one extra order of meat went out than was paid for, but it also wouldn't surprise me to learn that they do (they probably have RFID chips implanted in each deli slice) and regardless of how it came to management attention her sloppiness could get her in trouble. Again, that is her responsibility to avoid, but since you weren't looking to score free hamlike-product I'd have spoken up just to be nice.

Motorboat Cruiser 10-28-2005 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Stroup
They probably have RFID chips implanted in each deli slice.

Well, that would explain the flavor. ;)

Alex 10-28-2005 05:35 PM

"That's not a pimento!'

Gemini Cricket 10-28-2005 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Stroup
Theif? No. They accepted what you paid in exchange for what they gave you. It's kind of like them signing a contract you know has a clause to your advantage but it is their responsibility to find it.

Yes, but he knew he had double meat. Not saying is the same as stealing isn't it?

(Am I really taking part in a conversation about purloined Subway double meat?)
:D

LSPoorEeyorick 10-28-2005 06:27 PM

I'd say that the right thing to do is to report the full extent of the meat.

I like to report the full extent of the meat. Oh, yes. I do. Sometimes at the top of my voice.

Prudence 10-28-2005 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by LSPoorEeyorick
I like to report the full extent of the meat. Oh, yes. I do. Sometimes at the top of my voice.

The cat may be startled at my sudden vocal outburst, but that's the best thing I've read all week!

€uroMeinke 10-28-2005 06:37 PM

Are you sure you actually got double meat? Estimations of meat are often overstated and exaggerated.

€uroMeinke 10-28-2005 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Stroup
But I'd still say you should have brought it to the clerk's attention. If for no other reason that to possibly make her life easier.

I'm sure subway got their pound of flesh out of the negligent clerk.

Moonliner 10-28-2005 06:57 PM

Ahh at last we get to the meat of the matter. When I made the original post I was wondering how long a discussion on "double meat" could go before it swelled and started pointing in a new direction .. :cool:


Alex you are my hero and moral compass, from now on when faced with the difficult decisions life brings I shall only have to stop and ask myself WWASD? Then I shall know that I am truly upon the golden path of life.

Moonliner 10-28-2005 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by €uroMeinke
I'm sure subway got their pound of flesh out


You know the meat did taste a bit odd... :(

Moonliner 10-28-2005 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mousey Girl
I am one of those people who checks their change and if given too much I always return it. I don't know how many times I have done this at drive-thru windows only to be met with a blank stare. I also seldom get a thank you for it either.


An interesting point. If the clerk had handed me an extra dollar (the cost of the double meat) I would have returned the money as I have done under similar circumstances in the past. Somehow I see the sandwich differently than the cash. I wonder why.

Moonliner 10-28-2005 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Disneyphile
Dude, it's a good thing it wasn't Burger King.

Can you imagine the King knocking on your door, asking for his meat back? :eek:

I know I can say for sure that I do NOT want to handel the kings meat. :eek:

Alex 10-28-2005 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moonliner
Alex you are my hero and moral compass, from now on when faced with the difficult decisions life brings I shall only have to stop and ask myself WWASD? Then I shall know that I am truly upon the golden path of life.

I wouldn't recommend it, if you start using such methods on your own it will only get you to the same place as I find myself: people will think you cold, humorless, and just generally a pain in the ass.

Instead I suggest you keep living your own life but come to me for oracular wisdom in times of need. That way you can maintain a friendly reputation and I can occasionally talk out of my ass, which tickles in a pleasant way.

€uroMeinke 10-28-2005 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Stroup
I wouldn't recommend it, if you start using such methods on your own it will only get you to the same place as I find myself: people will think you cold, humorless, and just generally a pain in the ass.

You know, if used a few smilies now and then it might help you combat this image ;)

Alex 10-28-2005 07:31 PM

It's ok, I like me.

Plus, smilies are evil inventions up there with tomatoes and corderoy. Like using pencils on a crossword, they promote sloppiness.

tracilicious 10-28-2005 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Stroup
Instead I suggest you keep living your own life but come to me for oracular wisdom in times of need.


heh heh. He said oracular. heh heh.


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