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Gn2Dlnd 01-22-2006 02:27 AM

Pixar board approves Disney takeover
 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/mai...ixcitytop.html

Quote:

The board of Pixar Animation Studios, the digital animations company, is set to meet tomorrow to approve the company's $7bn (£3.9bn) takeover by Disney.
In America we get Britain's news of tomorrow today.

Jazzman 01-22-2006 03:31 AM

So for those of us keeping score at home, Disney has subdued Miramax, the Muppets and now eventually Pixar.

Soon, very soon, the sinister Disney Co plot to swallow up and vanquish all remaining creativity and originality in the world will be complete. Then, at last, the world as we know it will have only endless and stale sequels to enjoy, and all media will be ruled by Raven!

Bwah hah hah hah hah hah!!!







Blech....

LSPoorEeyorick 01-22-2006 10:03 AM

This makes me feel squeamish.

Not Afraid 01-22-2006 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jazzman
So for those of us keeping score at home, Disney has subdued Miramax, the Muppets and now eventually Pixar.

Soon, very soon, the sinister Disney Co plot to swallow up and vanquish all remaining creativity and originality in the world will be complete. Then, at last, the world as we know it will have only endless and stale sequels to enjoy, and all media will be ruled by Raven!

Bwah hah hah hah hah hah!!!







Blech....

My sentiments exactly!

€uroMeinke 01-22-2006 11:37 AM

As long as there is imagination left in the world - the Disney Company will seek it out and absorb it.

Jazzman 01-22-2006 04:54 PM


tracilicious 01-23-2006 03:22 PM

Bah! Pessimists! I think Pixar will remain true to its creative integrity for at least a few more years.

WAIT!!! Did that say takeover? As in Disney will OWN Pixar? I am such a dunce. I totally thought it was another distribution deal. This can't be good.

wendybeth 01-23-2006 03:44 PM

Well, hell- they already owned the rights to the majority of the Pixar's characters. It would take years for Pixar to build up again, and they're no longer the only CGI kids on the block. This will be interesting no matter what, with Jobs being the largest shareholder. If creativity is stifled, then that just leaves things open for another company to step up to the plate.

I wonder what this may do to the Microsoft/Disney relationship?

mousepod 01-23-2006 04:54 PM

Y'know, I don't think that this is all that bad. Just a feeling, mind you.

I know that Disney's a giant monolithic entertainment corporation, but it's a giant monolithic entertainment corporation that sometimes puts out stuff that makes me happy. So does Apple. So does Pixar.

Maybe Lassetter and co can give the cheapquel makers at Disney the Toy Story, Nemo and Monsters Inc characters to exploit, the remaining staff of Feature Animation (is there anyone left) their big computers, and they can go off into the corner with the traditional animation tools they got from Disney and work and that storytelling stuff that they seem to know how to do.

A guy can dream, right?

wendybeth 01-23-2006 05:07 PM

That's a nice dream, Mousepod. I hope it becomes reality.

Not Afraid 01-23-2006 05:52 PM

This news follows some dire underground news I got about further decimation of WDI. Hmmmm.

Snowflake 01-23-2006 06:10 PM

I have misgivings and a feeling of dread. But I will hope that the spirit of Walt will endure and the corporate head of the beast will not smother the creative group at Pixar. Just let them do what they do best. I'd even vote for another installment of The Incredibles if the second time around we got more of Edna Mode.

I'm not sure about Cars, however. I'm sure it will be wonderful, but the trailers have not appealed to me.

Donna

Isaac 01-23-2006 06:13 PM

Pixar could have signed with other movie studios but refused & held out til Eisner left the WDC. Maybe this is what they wanted all along. If this deal does not effect the quality of the Pixar movies, then I'm okay with it. I'd rather have Pixar make Toy Story 3 than Disney alone.

innerSpaceman 01-23-2006 06:33 PM

Miramax did ok as an independent branch ... for quite a while.

And I will have just as easy a time ignorning "Losing Nemo Again" and "Monsters, a Limited Liability Company" as I would any Disney crapuel.

wendybeth 01-23-2006 06:46 PM

The trailer for Cars left me with the same feeling, Snow, but hopefully the movie is better.

If Disney is going to go pure CGI, then they best do it with Pixar talent and technology. Their puny attempts have royally sucked, and the thought of them making the inevitable sequels to all the Pixar films was truly frightening. I agree with Jess- if Disney is going to walk away from traditional animation, then I hope that someone else fills that void. Films like 'Spirited Away' and the like have shown that 2d isn't dead, it just needs a fresh and creative breath of life.

LSPoorEeyorick 01-23-2006 06:57 PM

Yeah, I really don't care what the animation looks like if there's a good story.

OK, that's hyperbole. What i mean is... traditional, CGI, none of this matters if the story department sucks buttermilk through a straw.

Kevy Baby 01-23-2006 08:35 PM

Interesting article in today's LA Times:

Walt's Shoes at Disney Could Be a Fit for Jobs
Quote:

What does Steve Jobs want?

With Walt Disney Co.'s board scheduled today to consider whether to buy Pixar Animation Studios, Jobs, the mercurial visionary whose iPod transformed the way Americans consume entertainment, is being compared to Disney's late founder, the mercurial visionary whose theme parks sparked similar change half a century ago.

Isaac 01-23-2006 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LSPoorEeyorick
Yeah, I really don't care what the animation looks like if there's a good story.

OK, that's hyperbole. What i mean is... traditional, CGI, none of this matters if the story department sucks buttermilk through a straw.

Hehehe. We know what ya mean ;) A good script is vital to any film.

I think it's important that both styles of animation co-exist. I love it when they combined and create beautiful scenes, such as the ballroom sequence in Beauty And The Beast.

tracilicious 01-24-2006 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevy Baby
Interesting article in today's LA Times:

Walt's Shoes at Disney Could Be a Fit for Jobs


ipods, Disneyland it's all the same...

Gemini Cricket 01-24-2006 09:32 AM

I'm hoping the takeover will increase the creativity factor over at Disney. They seem to be strapped for ideas. I mean, 'Bambi 2'? Yikes.

CoasterMatt 01-24-2006 10:33 AM

I hate to say it, but it looks as if WDI is going the way of Universal Creative :(

Cadaverous Pallor 01-24-2006 11:31 AM

Maybe, just maybe, the work ethic, smarts, and playfulness of Pixar will rub off on Disney, instead of vice versa.

Maybe.

Gn2Dlnd 01-24-2006 03:45 PM

http://money.cnn.com/2006/01/24/news...ex.htm?cnn=yes

This news from 4 minutes ago.

Quote:

John Lasseter, the highly respected creative director at Pixar who had previously worked for Disney, will rejoin the House of Mouse as chief creative officer for the company's combined animated studios and will also help oversee the design for new attractions at Disney theme parks.
Possibly the most important fact of the whole thing.

Gn2Dlnd 01-24-2006 03:57 PM

A link to Pixar's news release.

http://corporate.pixar.com/releaseDe...leaseID=185239

mousepod 01-24-2006 04:57 PM

YES!


Alex 01-24-2006 05:38 PM

It does explain why John Lasseter wasn't there for the opening weekend (as many of speculated), which further explains the awkwardness of Rasulo's speech in which Lasseter's creative input was specifically credited and then he had so say "but Lasseter isn't here, instead we have Peter Doctor." (and while it is great for him to get some attention, it isn't a name the regular media there would know).

Ghoulish Delight 01-24-2006 05:46 PM

Random thought: I hope this isn't a sign that Cars is going to suck.

Jobs: Holy crap, John, that test screening bombed like a car in Iraq!
Lassiter: Yeah, well, what're you gonna do? Can't win 'em all.
Jobs: Sell to Disney while the gettin's good!

:p

MickeyLumbo 01-24-2006 09:00 PM

and all of this activity on the same day the WD studios dedicated a new EISNER building.

the irony.

Alex 01-25-2006 01:00 AM

Eh, I know a couple people upset about the naming of the building. I can't really see as it is at all unexpected. The man did run things for 20 years and taken as a whole didn't do too bad at it (though he did bad at some things of particular importance to most of the people reading this board).

Besides, in another 20 years we'll probably be bitching that Jobs' first few years were great but then his ego got in the way, especially when he installed iPods on all the animatronics in the amusement parks and it was just a reign of terror from that point on.

Gemini Cricket 01-25-2006 07:25 AM

I wonder if this means no more Pixar logo on their upcoming films. I mean, if they are Disney they don't need a logo...
???

Ghoulish Delight 01-25-2006 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket
I wonder if this means no more Pixar logo on their upcoming films. I mean, if they are Disney they don't need a logo...
???

Mirmiax, Touchstone, Buena Vista. All use their own logo (and, by my admittedly spotty recolection, don't use the Disney logo at all, except maybe at the end of the credits).

Most likely, it will be the same as it is now...the 3-D version of the Disney castle logo followed by the Pixar logo.

Alex 01-25-2006 11:15 AM

They explicitly said that maintaining the Pixar brand is very important.

However, the park rides will probably no longer have to say "based on a Walt Disney presentation of the Pixar production ..." somewhere on them.

Part of the Co-Production Agreement between Pixar and Disney required equal billing on all marketing. If Iger is true to his statements about bending over backwards to maintain the distinctness of Pixar it may actually be that you see the Disney logo less often on Pixar stuff.

Name 01-25-2006 07:05 PM

And no one mentioned that Jobs was joining the Disney Board as a part of the deal? This sounds like a good thing to me.

Kevy Baby 01-25-2006 07:41 PM

Lumos will never die!!!


Kevy Baby 01-25-2006 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Name
And no one mentioned that Jobs was joining the Disney Board as a part of the deal?

Well, he is now the single largest individual shareholder of Disney stock.

From the LA Times article (linked above):
Quote:

At Disney, Jobs conceivably could make a play to be named vice chairman, a title Roy E. Disney had when he was the company's largest individual shareholder, or even nonexecutive chairman when former Sen. George J. Mitchell leaves that post at the end of this year.

Alex 01-25-2006 08:16 PM

To give you an idea of how much Disney stock Jobs will own:

He will end up with 138 million shares.

The current largest shareholder (Eisner) has 14 million shares.


But if he wants to make any kind of serious play at controlling Disney I think he is going to have to leave Apple. Think he's willing?

wendybeth 01-25-2006 08:54 PM

I think Jobs is just happy that his is bigger than Eisner's.

:D

Cadaverous Pallor 01-25-2006 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Stroup
To give you an idea of how much Disney stock Jobs will own:

He will end up with 138 million shares.

The current largest shareholder (Eisner) has 14 million shares.

Holy crap! :eek: That's the biggest news, and I hadn't heard it.


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