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Matterhorn Fan 08-05-2006 03:33 PM

Are you colorblind?
 
OK, so just I came across this site: http://colorvisiontesting.com/

I've seen the dotty color tests before, and I know I'm not colorblind. What I found interesting was the page with approximations of how someone who is colorblind would see those dotty color tests.

(However, this still doesn't explain why I can't see the pictures in those stupid magic eye posters that were all the rage in the early 90s. WTF was up with those? I still think those were an evil conspiracy. No one saw pictures in those, right? Right?)

Alex 08-05-2006 03:37 PM

If you're color blind, you can't fly jets.




(I know that won't make sense to anybody but quoting movies is funny and cool.)

Alex 08-05-2006 03:38 PM

Oh, and while I never got to a point where I could easily see the Magic Eye pictures I could see them eventually so I at least got over the feeling it was some societal practical joke being played on me.

Matterhorn Fan 08-05-2006 03:41 PM

I acutally just did a google search on the magic eye thing. The site I found says it's a 3D thing, which explains a LOT. I have a lot of trouble with 3D--the images just never match up in things like HISTA. My eyes can make the adjustment, but generally I just find it to be too much work.

scaeagles 08-05-2006 03:58 PM

While my wife considers me to be colorblind due to my clothing choices, I am not actually color blind.

I love the magic eye 3-D things. Took me about 30 minutes to finally "see" one, but now I can "see" them without much difficulty.

CoasterMatt 08-05-2006 04:55 PM

I can't see the Magic Eye things - my eyes don't focus together at the same time.

Gemini Cricket 08-05-2006 05:27 PM

Ralphie is color blind. Sees a lot of grey in the world. He has an especially hard time differentiating reds and greens when they are next to each other.

RStar 08-05-2006 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Stroup
If you're color blind, you can't fly jets.




(I know that won't make sense to anybody but quoting movies is funny and cool.)

It's because they can't tell if the traffic lights change, right?


For years I couldn't see the magic eye things. Then one day I heard you need to focus past them to see it. Once I figured it out I could see them pretty easy. But it was soooo frustrating. It's not much fun if you have to work that hard.

wendybeth 08-05-2006 08:24 PM

We were tested for colorblindness in Cosmetology. Needless to say, a colorblind person is not generally going to be good at haircoloring and color correction. My dad is colorblind and so has a very simple wardrobe- he pretty much only has light blue, black and white clothing.

katiesue 08-05-2006 10:05 PM

My dad was colorblind and generally dressed like Mork from Ork complete with rainbow suspenders.

DisneyFan25863 08-05-2006 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Stroup
If you're color blind, you can't fly jets.




(I know that won't make sense to anybody but quoting movies is funny and cool.)


You can't drive (steer? navigate?) submarines either.

CoasterMatt 08-06-2006 12:23 AM

You don't tug on Superman's cape
You don't spit into the wind
You don't pull the mask off the old Lone Ranger
And you don't mess around with Jim, da do da do...

but I guess, that would apply to non-colorblind, too right?

LSPoorEeyorick 08-06-2006 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Stroup
(I know that won't make sense to anybody but quoting movies is funny and cool.)


No sense to anybody? Phbbbbblllth.

Tom is also colorblind. After we looked at the test together (which was very eye-opening for me, in terms of what he can and can't see) I asked him to identify the colors of a few objects around the room that were similar in shade to the ones on the test. He could pick out the reds and the greens just fine, but not when they're next to each other (as in the test.) Also, when we were looking at the "how the colorblind see the world" section, it was particularly interesting to see what he thought was the difference between the pictures. (The purple part of the balloon, for instance, seemed greenish to him.)

Kevy Baby 08-06-2006 04:42 PM

As part of a color theory class in college (for a degree in Graphic Communication), I took a sophisticated color test to see how well I could discern very subtle shades of color. A perfect score is quite rare, and I got it. I feel so special.

Apparently, color is the only sensory input that the mind cannot accurately remember

Gn2Dlnd 08-06-2006 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevy Baby
Apparently, color is the only sensory input that the mind cannot accurately remember

Really? I wonder if there's a way to test for that. I seem to have a pretty good memory of color when matching things that aren't together.

SzczerbiakManiac 08-07-2006 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matterhorn Fan
I can't see the pictures in those stupid magic eye posters that were all the rage in the early 90s. WTF was up with those? I still think those were an evil conspiracy. No one saw pictures in those, right? Right?)

Traing one's eyes to properly focus on them was, to me, just a matter of practice. Now that I know the "trick", it takes me only a few seconds to see the image.

Ghoulish Delight 08-07-2006 11:42 AM

"A sailboat IS a schooner, stupid head."

My uncle was colorblind. Us kids were never sure whether to believe it or not. It was so easy to fake, afterall. "Uncle Toby, what color is this (pointing to something red" "Green"..."Hrmm, is story checks out...but is he telling the truth?"

Capt Jack 08-07-2006 12:09 PM

blind? sorta, but color blind...aparrently not.
(some would dispute this fact)

Ponine 08-07-2006 01:40 PM

You're a guy, you don't identify colors the way us gals do.
I mean.... what color is coral, Capt'n?

Ghoulish Delight 08-07-2006 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ponine
You're a guy, you don't identify colors the way us gals do.
I mean.... what color is coral, Capt'n?

Kinda like salmon, but more on the orangy side, you sexist.

Capt Jack 08-07-2006 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ponine
You're a guy, you don't identify colors the way us gals do.
I mean.... what color is coral, Capt'n?

uh...living coral or dead coral? :p

(reddish??)

Alex 08-07-2006 01:50 PM

When it comes to colors I am pretty much the stereotypical guy. If it isn't in a box of 8 Crayolas it isn't a color (certain modifying adjectives are allowed).

That isn't to say I can't see the differences, just that giving them specific names is rendered pointless by my way of thinking.

For example, the color scheme of this message board is:

Blue, lighter blue, still lighter blue and gray.

Not Afraid 08-07-2006 02:07 PM

The colors of LoT are dark cyan, Deep Turquoise, Twilight blue, Pale Aqua, Deep Sea Green and Fire orange. ;)

Morrigoon 08-07-2006 02:13 PM

Apparently Alex can't differentiate the greenish and purplish tones of the LoT colors, LOL.

Alex 08-07-2006 02:14 PM

No, I can see them. But all the colors still fall into the blue category.

Alex 08-07-2006 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Not Afraid
The colors of LoT are dark cyan, Deep Turquoise, Twilight blue, Pale Aqua, Deep Sea Green and Fire orange. ;)

See. You say that and here is what I read:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Not Afraid
The color of LoT are blue, blue, blue, blue, blue and red. ;)


Matterhorn Fan 08-07-2006 03:00 PM

Alex never got the Big Box of Crayolas as a kid . . . :(

Morrigoon 08-07-2006 03:49 PM

96 BABY!

Ponine 08-07-2006 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight
Kinda like salmon, but more on the orangy side, you sexist.

I have nothing to say to that except:
"Hey CP! How'd you find ONE of the two dozen straight men in California that knows more than 24 colors?"

Ghoulish Delight 08-07-2006 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Stroup
When it comes to colors I am pretty much the stereotypical guy. If it isn't in a box of 8 Crayolas it isn't a color (certain modifying adjectives are allowed).

That isn't to say I can't see the differences, just that giving them specific names is rendered pointless by my way of thinking.

For example, the color scheme of this message board is:

Blue, lighter blue, still lighter blue and gray.

Okay, suddenly things become crystal clear. THIS is the reason that the following mid-MouseAdventure conversation (or something very similar) has happened more than once:

GD: Are you sure that counts? Is it blue or green?
CP: I don't know. It says "count the blue ones on top". It's kinda blue, but not really.
GD: F*ck
CP: *!$#

wendybeth 08-07-2006 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight
Okay, suddenly things become crystal clear. THIS is the reason that the following mid-MouseAdventure conversation (or something very similar) has happened more than once:

GD: Are you sure that counts? Is it blue or green?
CP: I don't know. It says "count the blue ones on top". It's kinda blue, but not really.
GD: F*ck
CP: *!$#


Lol!!!:D

(Out of mojo for the day, so I'm forced to acknowledge this post in an Alex approved manner. I had to throw in the 'lol' and smilie just to make him cranky).

Alex 08-07-2006 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight
Okay, suddenly things become crystal clear. THIS is the reason that the following mid-MouseAdventure conversation (or something very similar) has happened more than once:

GD: Are you sure that counts? Is it blue or green?
CP: I don't know. It says "count the blue ones on top". It's kinda blue, but not really.
GD: F*ck
CP: *!$#

That's why when we test we specifically make sure the other people agree with the color I've said something is.

wendybeth 08-07-2006 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Stroup
That's why when we test we specifically make sure the other people agree with the color I've said something is.

Forcing others to agree that green is blue does not make green actually blue.;)

Alex 08-07-2006 04:36 PM

Of course not, but putting some green in the blue doesn't make it not blue either. Put enough in and then it becomes green. I'm fine with the dividing line being fuzzy and making snap judgements on a case-by-case basis.

Beginning of MouseAdventure betatesting:

Me: How many lights are there?
Testers: There are four lights.
Me: Wrong <smack>

Conclusion of MouseAdventure betatesting:

Me: How many lights are there?
Testers: There are five lights.
Me: Good.

(This quoting stuff is lame even when I do it.)

Ghoulish Delight 08-07-2006 04:37 PM

Is that a Picard reference?

Alex 08-07-2006 04:38 PM

Yes, based on a 1984 reference but I figured I'd go with the geekier quote than the more literary.

Not Afraid 08-07-2006 04:45 PM

You know, there are more words in the English language to describe colors other that green, blue, red, yellow, brown, black and white.

My description of the LoT colors did NOT use any of the "fanciful" names such a seafoam, grass, crepuscular, sunlight, butter etc.

Andrew 08-07-2006 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight
GD: Are you sure that counts? Is it blue or green?
CP: I don't know. It says "count the blue ones on top". It's kinda blue, but not really.
GD: F*ck
CP: *!$#

You must spread some Mojo around before giving it to Ghoulish Delight again.

We designed it just for you. See you in November! :evil:

Andrew 08-07-2006 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight
Is that a Picard reference?

Yes, Alex just quoted. Let the anvils ring!

LSPoorEeyorick 08-07-2006 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Stroup
Yes, based on a 1984 reference but I figured I'd go with the geekier quote than the more literary.

Ah. See, I was thinking "Scientology," but at least I was on-target with the whole sci-fi thing.

Alex 08-07-2006 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Not Afraid
You know, there are more words in the English language to describe colors other that green, blue, red, yellow, brown, black and white.

Of course there are. I just don't use them. 8 is an exaggeration but unless a highly technical conversation requires specificity a relatively small number will do. And I generally know what color is meant by the fancy names. I'm mostly be cantankerous.

But I do get annoyed when I say "that is orange" and the response is "no its not, it is tangerine." Besides, it eventually gets to something like the hyper-genretization of music. Just converse in wavelengths or CMYK values and then at least everybody can agree with absolute certainty on what the color means.

I blame Sherwin Williams and their desire to be able to trademark color names.

Kevy Baby 08-08-2006 12:33 PM

One thing that the printing industry got right is the Pantone Matching System (with the unfortunate acronym) for colors. With only rare exceptions (reflex blue, etc), every color is a number.

So colors are PMS 185 (which is a red), PMS 165 (orange), etc.

And of course, colors on a screen can be broken down into RGB values.

Cadaverous Pallor 08-08-2006 11:54 PM



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