Oh my fvcking gawd!
 

It's 36 frelling degrees in Gilbert, AZ right now! At 12:46pm!!! Last night there was actually ice on the driveway. The world might be ending. I might actually have to wear a jacket. Weird.

Well, if it's any consolation, we have two feet of snow in my neck of the woods...

...of course, I am in Canada, where winter lasts 7 months. :blush:

I haven't turned the heater off in 3 days.

:rolleyes:



(Just kidding! I know it's hard to take, especially when you live in a clime that is supposed to be warm!)

Soooo....is it cold in Scaeagleland as well?:evil:

He had to put an electric blanket on his ham...

Where's Gilbert? Some parts of Arizona, Flagstaff area-ish, are notoriously cold in winter.


But it's not limited to the northern part of the state. Heck, I've personally seen snow in downtown Tucson.

I forgot to conver what was a nice young ficus tree last night. It will survive, but I lost a on of growth due to the hard freeze last night. My thermometer in far NE phx got down to 24.

Two seasons up Nort': winter and road repair, as they say.

That's all well and good but...

How's the ham?

While it isn't as cold as that in here right now it is freezing to me in here. Inside my house. My heater would be on for the past three days but I already choke at my electric bill. I've been handing out blankets and watching a lot of t.v. curled up on the couch underneath my down comforter. My hand barely sticks out from underneath to pause/play.

It has been cold, yet sunny :rolleyes:.

Those with kids, do they admit they are cold? My son refuses to admit and will only wear a short sleeved T with his old black sweatjacket. At Disneyland, I wore a hat, gloves, jacket, sweater, scarf, and I still felt the cold. He admitted, at that point only, he was a bit chilly. :rolleyes:

I told the Hubster we had to snuggle up against him like our baby penguin to keep him warm. So it did bring for some closeness to us for our almost teen. {the Hubster thinks I am smothering, I think my comparison was sweet and I think it touched my son, too}. :p

I am grateful that I am here inside and not out having to drive on icy roads.

It's Phoenix metro. About 40ish miles away from Scaegles and his pork supply.


We have six large ficuses (fici?) that are all a lovely shade of brown now.


Not only does he admit it, but he acts like I'm the most neglectful mom ever if it happens to get cold while we are out and we don't have his jacket with him. :rolleyes:

I am sorry for the trees, but feeling a wee bit of satisfaction at Scaeagles' weather payback.:D

However, if it makes Leo feel any better, I have a horrendous cold.

It was 36 degrees in beautiful uptown Brea this morning (7:15 ish). It was a full 10 degrees warmer by the time I hit Tustin.

I guess they ran the sprinklers last night at our main office, covering the front (slanted) walkway into a black ice death trap. One broken leg and head injury later, the walkway is closed and they are torching the ice away. Wonder if they'll let the sprinklers go again tonight.

Torching? Have they never heard of salt?

Would you salt bees?

That's terrible ... unless it's the right people who fell, I don't suppose? No?

I've never seen someone torch away ice but I'd like to. We take a more wussy approach and sprinkle on some traction in the form of cat litter.

Torching ice........it's a California thing.

Hmm. How old is your son? Perhaps it is down the road for you? Maybe I need to forget his gear sometime and see what he does?

Ouch, I hate ice!! Which reminds me to ask~
Has anyone ever used those things you put on your shoes for traction in the ice? Or are they just for traction in the snow? I picked up some of these but haven't had the chance to try them and any advice/experience on what they actually do would be appreciated.

I'd hate to put them on with expectations and then fall flat on my rear. Or head or break my leg!! :eek:

I must be a really teerrible person because I laughed my head off at that.


He's 3. He also must have a hat and sunglasses in the summer.

LOL Oh, okay. That is the difference. Mine is almost 13. Can't be bothered with my advice much of the time, it would seem. {which, by my current parenting book, is quite common at this age}.

Lol, 3 year olds and 13 year olds have something in common then...neither can be bothered with advice. ;)

Isn't that funny? ;)

brrr!!
For the 6 or 7th night in a row it will be less than 30 here. Poor PoohDog's automatic waterer froze over Thursday morning and still hasn't thawed. Luckily it is one of those things that I check on several times a day and filled a back up bowl of water to keep next to his house.

When Nickolas and I drove down to DLR Saturday, it was 18ish in Lebec. By the time we got to Anaheim it was a balmy 44. I can handle the cold and I can handle wind, but not at the same time. My face and lips are still sore from wind-burn.

Salt kills the landscaping and grass. Sheesh!:rolleyes:

Up here, we figure the freeze will do that. We start over every year.

Now, why do you think your misery would brighten my day? :evil:

Fresh, not frozen. Well, on second thought....

And it's snowing again. Stupid snow. I think the kids around here will be in school until July.

yeah, it was cold in LA, my host did not run the heat in her place either, and now I have my first cold of the season :(

Time to harness up the pooch, cuz we're going ...
 

skijoring! Giddyup, doggie.

Lots of ice around these parts yesterday. I had to scrape about 1/4 inch off my car before heading back to Albany. Thankfully today it seems to be cold enough that we'll just have snow instead of the lovely "wintry mix."

Oooh, there is nothing lovely about a wintry mix or an afternoon melt and then an overnight refreeze.

I understand that on the outskirts of S.D. some peoples pipes have frozen and burst! {or whatever happens to frozen pipes....}

That's pretty much what happens. I've only had that happpen once, but luckily I lived in a rental and my landlord had to fix it.

You should see what happened at Magic Mountain - they had pipes bursting all over the park, fountains frozen over - there's some fun pics here.

Oh wow! Thanks for sharing those pictures. What a nightmare for the maintenance workers!! A wee bit more than a broom and a dustpan to fix that mess. :(

Now instead of "Code V", we have "Code I"

I particularly liked this picture:

It's been 23 here at night in Modesto, Ca. I was surprised to see we made national news.

You're in Modesto? I'm so......so sorry.

I'm in love with the temperature (though Lani keeps turning on the heat when I'm not looking).

I'm very cold tolerant (don't own gloves, hats, scarves, etc., and only wear a coat if I'm going to get rained on or need a way to carry stuff without a backpack).

Watching all those poor people on the BART platform this morning looking like the end of the world is at hand was plenty of fun. If it could be this temperature every day then I might actually start to like living in California.

According to the car lot sign across the freeway from the BART station it was a breezy 29 degrees (though I suspect it was a few degrees warmer). Cold enough to feel it but still be outside for an hour or two, not so cold that going outside at all will feel like death.

Unfortunately Lani and I disagree on what temperature the ideal home is. I like it cold enough that I have to wear socks around the house and the tips of my toes are bitching just a little bit. She likes it warm enough that NASA wants to use our apartment to test heat shielding for possible missions to Mercury.

I can completely empathize with you Alex!

Heehee! The one of the "Waterfront Cafe" is especially hilarious. :D

Oh and a funny story of the knowledge you can miss being someone who lived in Hawaii for 20 years followed by 8 years in California.

A few weeks ago we had a freeze and Lani was driving me to the BART station. There were little blooms of frost on the windshield and as we're pulling out of our parking lot she turns on the windshield wipers. No effect. So, faster than I can shout "NOOOOO!!!!!!" she gives it a spray of wiper fluid.

Instant opaque sheet of ice covering the entire windshield
and we're stopped in the middle of the street with me doing my best to scrape the ice off with a t-shirt that happened to be in the back seat.

Minor chemistry lesson: massively and suddenly increasing the surface area of a liquid at or below freezing will allow it to freeze really quickly.

Same here, although my hands tend to get cold (it's not uncommon to see me in short sleeves and gloves). CP and I play thermostat wars too. And I'm always torn between my own comfort vs. CP wearing fewer clothes in the house. It's a difficult decission.

It is snowing in eastern WA!!! yippie skippy! :D


We have just been freezing. If it is going to be cold give me some snow!

I wear shorts every day at work, and it freaks people out.

Where are you, Ruthie? I'm in Spokane, but haven't seen any snowfall today.
(It's colder than ****, though).

So funny! My mom tells me {she, who grew up on a hacienda in Mexico} that while she and my father were in Alaska, she walked out one morning to say good-bye to him as he was preparing to leave for work. Seeing him scraping the windshield, she thought she'd be helpful and....

splash a bucket of water on the windshield for him!

Well. You know the end.

I enjoy wearing sweaters over summer clothes. {not on top of, instead of}. I love to wear gloves and I love it a bit nippy. This has been down right freezing!!! I enjoy places where I go and expect the temp to be 30 and below. I do not expect my house to be one of those places!!!

How cold do you think it was at Magic Mountain?

CoasterMatt, my husband used to always wear shorts and even to the snow. But, today, he froze in them.

I LOVE the cold but do not like to be cold. Freak.

It was so cold last night. Here's a pic of Nicholson taken after the Golden Globes:

Lol, MP!

When Nick and I drove through the Valencia area on Sat at 6am it was 31.

I slid on ice this morning going from a small side street into a large main street. All of the gutters around here look like a hail storm just passed through.

You would think the radiation from the nuclear explosion Monday night would have kept things warmer.

Gas-X comes highly recommended.

Citizens of Portland...might I suggest walking. Or better yet, staying the fvck inside.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPE8vL5hlFA

I know I should not laugh, but really now, if you see 5 people crash before you, why do you step o the gas? The way the cars were sliding reminded me of watching Curling. All the people needed on the street were brooms to smooth and extend the path in front of the cars.

I hate driving in icy conditions, but that was ridiculous.

I think I'm the only person on my block with a window scraper. There were a bunch of people trying to figure out how to get the ice off their windows when I was driving the Munchkin to school this morning.

One of my customers in Santa Ana told me that he had ice on his windshield this morning. We have yet to see ice in Dana Point though.

I rediscovered my ice scraper this morning and used it to clear my windshield while a guy across the street watched in envy from his idling car.

Heh. The local news stations must have played this video a hundred times over the last couple of days.

I work just a few blocks downwind of that intersection. The angle of the camera doesn't do justice to the incline of that hill, but yah, there are some places that you just don't go in the slippery snow.

Though I've only had a little time to skim this thread, it's safe to say I have you all beat freezing-wise. When we got into the Salt Lake City area, it was a balmy 22-degrees out during the heat of the day. The next day, the thermometer topped out at around 20. Mind you, that's the temperature for about an hour. It's amazing to see the locals complaining about how cold it is. Oh, and don't get me started on "Wind Chill Factor."

I don't even know how I lived in Michigan all those years.

Yeah, but SNOW in WESTWOOD?!?!? Sea-level Westwood in Los Angeles, California??? WTF?


Apocalypse Soon, anyone?

I feel sorry for all the 'snowbirds' from our area.:D


We got more snow today- couldn't get up our hill, so I had to go around and take a more gradual incline, which I barely made.

I hate winter.

In 1989, a temperature of -8 F was recorded in Canoga Park. This year's downright balmy.

Temperature is one thing. Snow is another.

Canoga Park has elevation. Westwood is at sea level.

My windshield has not caused me any problems this week. It is just way to dry here for the ice to form. Instead, I am getting a bunch of little tiny crystals. They almost look like snow flakes, until you realize that you are in Bakersfield and it hasn't snowed in 8 years.

I just showed Nick all of the ice driving videos, to educate him on why ice in the road can be so dangerous.

Excuse me, but where is Canoga Park again? ;)

We put our car in the garage, so we've not had to scrape this year.

I love garages!

Make a left at Sherman Oaks

Okay, it's a whole 600 ft. difference in elevation. Congratulations, you win that particular frozen pissing match.

I'm not trying to win some "my winter was colder than your winter" competition. I'm just getting tired of hearing, "OMG this is the coldest it's ever been!" and, "There hasn't been weather like this in 60 year!" and, "It's the apocalypse!" everywhere I turn.

If, in my short span of existence, I can remember off the top of my head winters that were at best incrementally better (or more realistically, just as bad in different ways), such as a winter with snow and temperatures of -8 degrees at near sea level (as far as I've seen, nowhere with an elevation under 1000ft has come even CLOSE to -8 this year), then this is hardly unprecedented, apocalyptic weather. It's people with short memories. And if I can pull that up from memory, I can only imagine that there are plenty more examples if one were to actually look up the historical weather data.

But I guess people somehow feel better if they convince themselves they're living through the worst winter ever. *shrug*

Now that you mention Canoga Park, it makes me curious. Any chance we attended the same elementary school?

Well, I may have memory problems ... but it's never snowed in my part of town in the 30 years I've lived here. I'm not claiming the snow made it West L.A.'s worst winter ever ... far from it: It was delightful.

But it was highly unusual. As is the week-of-winter, week-of-summer pattern we've been having lately. Perhaps the sky isn't falling, and no single weather event or pattern can be attributed directly to global warming. But the type of unusual weather events happening all over the U.S. and the world are exactly the types of weather events science predicted for this time frame of the global warming phenomena. And if those predictions continue to bear out, the sky will only seem like it's falling because the sea level will have risen so high. My area of West L.A. will see no more snow ... because it will be under water.

See, that's my favorite. How cold it's getting is definitely on the short end of the bell curve, but the cold-warm-cold-warm oscillation happens every single year in SoCal. Every year. And has been happening every year for quite a while every January. What's amusing to me is the people who love to tell the, "It was cold and rainy and windy and horrible weather right up until the day of the Rose Parade when it was suddenly sunny and warm," anecdotes, and then seem to immediately forget those over the next two months and live in shock over that exact same weather pattern playing out like it always does.

Yes, snow in Westwood is highly unusual. Just as snow in Canoga Park was highly unusual in 1989. It's a statistical anomaly and 2 instances of light snow in 20 years are evidence of absolutely nothing on the scale of global climate change.

Heck, maybe it's a good sign, seeing as over the previous 40 years there has been no snowfall at the LA Civic Center, whereas during the previous 40 years there were at least trace amounts on average every 4.5 years or so. (source). So this single, statistically insignificant snow event is just as plausibly evidence of things returning to normal as it is of things going to hell.

Nope, I lived further west, other side of Falbrook (now technically West Hills :rolleyes: ) and went to Welby Way.

Your school, however, is less than a mile from CP's parents' house.

Just like the "average" rainfall is on a cycle here in So Cal as well. They say, on average, that we have a drought every seven years. But the slide is incramental, so the years before and after the drought are low in rainfall also. And at the other end is flooding. Of course there are little exception blips that would cause bumbs in a graph, but in gerneral, we have a seven year cycle.

And this also effects the life cycles of plants and animals. There is a seven year boom of rabbits due to the growth of plants durring the rainy season, and they die off durring drought.

I think everything on earth works this way, and patterns would be noticable with enough information. And take decades or mellinia rather than years, and we may see weather patterns of mini ice ages, ozone depletions, mean global temperature changes, and greenhouse gas increases as well. Not to mention asteroids and volcanic eruptions that changed weather.

What does all of this mean? Hell, I don't know. I just think it is interesting, and anyone that whats to draw any kind of conclusions from a small sample of information should be very carefull.

That is all.....

Following up the previous cars-on-ice video, we discovered this gem.

Pay close attention to the emergency vehicle that shows up at some point to "help" direct traffic. See if you can figure out what's wrong before the driver does.

He was helping: he was pointing out to everybody where NOT to go.

He was helpig out the lookie loos.