Poor, poor Paris Hilton
 

I was already to complain along with everyone else about them releasing her for medical reasons.

They should have decided on overcrowding instead because as awful as that is, it's pretty believable and everyone sort of goes: well - aint that a shame.

But medical reasons when anyone else would have been sent to a medical and/or psych ward is just b.s.

Then I heard that part of the reason was the ruckus her presence was causing the jail some problems. Prisoners were threatening to call the ACLU because of her special treatment of things like a never ending stream of visitors, 24 hour access to the kitchen (seems a bit farfetched?), brand new clothes, etc... Some were threatening to riot or something.

Then I heard something about a rash - which made me giggle.

But - BREAKING NEWS - she's been called into court tomorrow morning! They said something about holding the sherriff in contempt of court! How exciting! lol :coffee:

I hate to say it but I just can't look away... and I can't wait to see if she ends up a "drunk skank" as somone said on the radio or somehow gains the respect of the public and comes out on top despite it.

What do you think? Special treatment? Better for everyone for her to serve at home? Are you suddenly looking forward to hearing what happens to her tomorrow? (and it kills me to say it too... I wish I just didn't care.):cool: :rolleyes:

If you're rich, you can get away with stuff like this.
That's the lesson learned from all this.
Bleh.
:rolleyes:

It sounds like the judge is unhappy with the sheriff, which is understandable considering .

Honestly, I just don't really care as much as everyone's trying to make me.

From what I understand, in an overcrowded jail situation, like the one where she was at, staph infections are rampant. There is the possibility she had a staph infection. But whatevs...

(OOh, the best/worst joke was "my staff gets an infection when Paris...")

She was looking at 23 days of solitary confinement (that sounds awful to me - no communications for 23 hours of the day, except for her lawyer, or whatever), or the full 45-days in house arrest. I'd go with getting the F out of dodge and taking the longer sentence, too. Wouldn't you, if you had the rash and the cash for it?

"Jail was, like, totally gross and stuff."

Considering that I work in and around the jail system... c'mon. Really.

It was definitely a rash decision.

If Martha Stewart can do her time, why can't Paris?

cuz Martha's hardcore. she made her own way. as much as Im not into the Martha thing...she made her own fortune and can swing it like a club when need be. those who fight that hard learn to roll with the punches.

Paris-ite is....something else altogether.

I think it'd be better if she wound up in a service closet with a broken broom handle up her butt.

I don't really blame Paris. Who would stay in jail if the had the opportunity not to?

It's the Sherriff's responsibility for sending her home.

And even if she does have a staph infection, is that what it takes to get out of jail nowadays? Does everyone with that get out of jail?

Perhaps she had one of those drug resistant strains of TB?

I say get her rashy ass back to jail.

I bet it was Drug/ Alcohol withdrawls

Kevin and Bean had someone on their show this morning who was saying that if a [non-famous] person had committed the offenses that Paris did the sentence would be a lot less than the one Paris received. On one hand the judge was trying to make an example out of her (mandatory jail, no other way to serve the time), on the other hand he was too hard on her because of who she is [and what she represents].

Just what I heard today, not my opinion.

She did what she did out of a sense of entitlement and 'the law doesn't apply to me' attitude. It would be very appropriate to make an example out of her, and her subsequent behavior bears out that perhaps that is what needs to take place. She gets enough freebies in life- she's frikken famous for nothing, for God's sake. She tried to weasel out of the whole thing all along, and no doubt that is why the judge put such strict conditions on her sentence. I think she ought to have to do the whole 90 days now. I do not feel one teensy bit sorry for her.

That's what I was thinking, too.

I'm fascinated by the spectacle of Paris Hilton and Celebrity in general. We seem to love to see stars fall, as if their lives play out some morality tail proving Karma, God, or Justice. Which is probably why this one bothers us - that money, fame, position upset our own American mythology of a just free society.

We want to protect our privacy, and become annoyed with government entities that actually protect them of celebrities. We think the worse of whatever medical condition exists, certain it's bogus, or scandalous, or both, and wonder why they just don't tell us about their irritable bowls, so we can pass judgement ourselves.

Anyway, I'm just more fascinated about what this "news" and "reaction" say about us as opposed to Paris Hilton.

I just want to know why Paris Hilton is famous.

She got the clap from Linsey's firecrotch...

I don't either, and I don't really much care, but it manages to intrude on my day. A friend on LJ was commenting how little fuss this things seemed to be creating and I wonder how isolated one would have to be to feel there has been an under reaction.

If she was treated worse (getting a long sentence) because of her celebrity then I suppose it is fair for her to later be treated better (getting shipped to house arrest). The end result seems to be that she was in jail for about the average length of time a non-celebrity would have been for similar infractions.

And if being a celebrity (for whatever douche bag reason) means you get harsher punishment for committing crimes just so you can be an example then they do deserve the otherwise unearned abuses of the system they take.

I've opins from a couple of lawyers and one judge that her sentence was par for the crimes - she got no less and no more than the average.

I think I saw that happen to her in a movie. ;)

I do not feel the least bit sorry for Paris. She has had, and still has, a life filled with incredible privilege. I don't know why she is famous; I don't care either and pay as little attention to her as is possible.

My feeling is, you do the crime, buddy you do the time. From what I heard while watching the news last night, the judge ruled, she must serve the time in jail. Heck, she was being housed in a special unit, outside the regular population of petty criminals, drug dealers, prostitutes, etc. If Paris really wanted to take the time in jail to review and think about her life, put her in the mixing bowl with everyone else. That for her would be truly traumatic and life changing. But, no, the trump us some whiny ass excuse and move her to home detention, where is the punishment and lesson in that?

We'll see what happens today when she makes her court appearance, but I say haul her butt back to jail for the full term as WB spake before me. If it were me, you can bet I'd be in jail and not in some special unit, they have me in there with the grunts and pity me if I got a blister, tough teabags.

Ouch, my head hurts, I've just spent way too much time and energy thinking about Paris Hilton. Not worth the waste of my brain cells.

Ally, apparently I have to spread the mojo around :snap:

Just make sure to use protection.

And back to jail she goes.

Screaming and crying.


Can we sue her family for misuse of our tax dollars? Not for having her in jail, but for the in, the out, the special treatment, blah blah blah.

Still no sympathy for Hilton, but for the unnecessary expense I blame the judge. Treat her like any similar case and those expenses all go away.

It is, of course, a different jurisdiction but Lost's Michelle Rodriguez was sentenced to 60 days for a similar parole violation and after serving one day was shifted to community service and a lengthy probation.

But, Hilton could have avoided all of this so even if the punishment is unreasonable it's still her fault ultimately.

LOL!

Rates right up there with "No one goes to Disneyland any more - it's too crowded."

Good.

But is that the standard for people with similar such violations, or is that the standard for wealthy/famous people with similar such violations? I don't know either way, but if this judge is simply trying to get Paris to serve a sentence that resembles the sentence and average violator would be required to serve, then he deserves a bonus, no matter the expense to the system.

I certainly wouldn't support her being made an example of by receiving a greater punishment than is normally afforded a non-celebrity in her situation. I most definitely support her being made an example of by receiving the same punishment.

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According to the sheriff his treatment of Hilton is more the norm.

According to a criminal defense attorney I know, for non violent misdemeanors, it is rare to spend more than a few days actually in jail regardless of actual sentence since the jails are crowded.

I have no direct knowledge either, but most of the people I know who do know stuff about this feel that even 25 days actually in jail for her offense would be extremely unusual, let alone 45. And that a prohibition on shifting to house arrest is also very unusual since she has no history of violence or evasion.

But if their wrong and the typical peon on the street would do 25-40 days in a cell then yes, she deserves the same. But nothing I've seen indicates that is the case and making an example of someone is just as big an abuse of the system, in my view, as going easy on her.

Two sources, conflicting info. So I still don't know which is the truth. Though were I to make an educated guess, Alex's version sounds the most likely (the actual sentence minus the restrictive caveats is pretty normal , while having that sentence commuted due to the realities of an over-stressed jail system is equally normal).

Isn't part of the issue then that they released her for a "medical" condition insted of just saying this is the norm and we generally release non-violent offenders because we don't have the room for them?

I blame the parents.
At some point in her life the parents should have said, "Cut the sh!t, dear."

Well, for the time being, Paris will now experience a very simple life.
Do the time and learn from the lesson and be responsible for once in your life, you and the world will be better for it.

26 going on 3

I keep wishing that this experience will give Paris a chance to reflect on her wasted life and come out of it an adult.

Well, one can hope...

The sorry state of things: We're launching a shuttle today, and the press can't get away from focusing on this waste of air!

ron

I caught part of a press conference of Sheriff Lee Baca. He basically is throwing the judge under the bus :eek:

According to Baca, the sentence is much higher than the usual. He said that normally a case like this (with no priors) wouldn't see ANY jail time.



You are a dreamer!

Hmm, what do they mean by "no priors"?

She's in jail for violating probation. That seems to imply that there were indeed priors, namely the dui that landed her on probation with a suspended license to begin with. So this would be a second offense (though of a different nature).

The "no priors" was my addition (obviously faulty). I couldn't remember his exact verbiage, but the gist of the statement was that someone who would have done a similar offense(s) would not being seeing the jail time that Paris is getting. Baca basically said (directly) that Paris WAS getting special treatment - she was getting more than usual.

Obviously there is no love lost between Baca and Michael Sauer (the judge).

Voluntary manslaughter gets you an additional week in jail. I know, that includes 200 days time served during the trial. But if killing someone gets you 210 days 45 for Hilton's crimes seems out of perspective. But then so much of criminal sentencing makes little sense when viewed within a big picture.

I figure if I'm forced to watch it, it is probably best to be surmising things with this group of people.

Hmm, just saw on TV that she'll be serving the full 45 in jail now... ?

Wow, um.... I almost wanna un-mojo you for the mental image you just gave me - ick! (okay, not really on the un-mojo, but yes really on the major ick factor)

Well, she's going to miss Heidi and Tom's wedding. It's her own fault...






:D

45 days was not for the initial crime, but for violating multiple terms of the probation. Her initial crime was a DUI in 2006.
" ...3 years of probation, ordered her mandatory attendance at an alcohol education program, and that she pay fines of $1,500."
She violated multiple parts of her probation. (Copy of court paperwork)
She violated her probation:
" First, she failed to enroll in an alcohol education course within 21 days of her sentencing.

Second, she had several traffic violations after receiving probation. On February 27, 2007, she was stopped by L.A. Sheriff Deputies for driving “a new Bentley” at 70 m.p.h. in a 35 m.p.h. zone “in darkness without her headlights on,” and without a valid driver’s license. Hilton’s license had been suspended by California&rsquos; Department of Motor Vehicles in November 2006 for having an "Excessive Blood Alcohol Level.”

Finally, prosecutors argued, Hilton failed to "obey all laws and orders of the Court," another condition of her probation." (source: findlaw.com



Probation violations are lots of times much harsher than original sentence

"Hilton's twisted jailhouse saga began Sept. 7, when she failed a sobriety test after police saw her weaving down a street in her Mercedes-Benz on what she said was a late-night hamburger run.

She pleaded no contest to reckless driving and was sentenced to 36 months' probation, alcohol education and $1,500 in fines. In the months that followed she was stopped twice while driving on a suspended license. The second stop landed her in Sauer's courtroom."

Yeah, sorry, I don't feel too bad. And obviously the judge is doing this because he knows 45 days in her own house isn't going to teach her anything, whereas she'll probably NEVER want to repeat the jail experience.

Yes, I know it is a complex thing. But I believe it is still out of proportion with reasonable, though within the judicial discretion.

That said, I'm not clear on why she now has to serve the full 45 days. Was not the reduction based on an assumption of good behavior? If she requested transferral to house arrest and it was granted by the sheriff, what exactly has she done wrong (procedurally) that would warrant increased punishment?

While I am not at all sympathetic to Paris Hilton, I do feel like I am seeing a whole lot of grandstanding (and probably attention seeking) by the judge.

I think the 45 is the total days, minus time served, etc... It still may be the 23 or so she was in for, minus the ones from her original arrest, etc...

Plus she's got credit for 5 days served (even though it's really only 3).

Maybe. I'm trying to avoid any direct real knowledge. Just saw a headline that she would have to do the full 45 day snow.

Oh well, I've already spent too many processor cycles on her plight. So I'll just say it seems unduly harsh to me, regardless of who she is, and leave it at that.

Also, a lot of people who always said that they didn't pay any attention to her (not necessarily here) seem to have a lot of schadenfreude for someone they didn't pay any attention to.

Why couldn't they just give her the chair?

I am not familiar with the legal players in this story, but up here the judge interprets the law and imposes sentences- the sheriff implements the judge's orders. It seems the sheriff down there is confused as to his job description. If I were the judge, I'd be citing his ass for contempt of court. The grandstanding here seems to be from the sheriff- I don't know the last time I saw one so very concerned about a prisoner, especially when said prisoner was 'enjoying' a private cell and didn't have to even undergo the usual strip search the first time around. (Don't know about this time- perhaps they will if only to ascertain she doesn't have any of the drugs that she is probably detoxing from inside her). Is he really all that concerned about her as a person, or because she's a rich, (in)famous and "hot"?

she is many things. "hot" isnt anywhere on the list

She checked in at 11:40 pm on Sun. (so got credit for that day)
Did 3 days in.
Released after midnight on Wed so got credit for thur.(since she was in system for those days.)


I happened to have TV on while getting ready for work as case was going down today so got all the story.


Sad, isn't it.

(plus have had friends who have gotten jail credit the same way)

I don't get the hysterics. I mean, I don't want to spend time in jail either, but it's not like she's going in for months. She's not in the general population. And it's not like she has to worry about it affecting her employment prospects. I mean, sure, it sucks, but hysterical fits of weeping?

You know, when you're in court for MULTIPLE incidences of disregarding the law, and your parole orders, and getting caught on multiple occasions (meaning you probably violated the law on many more occasions that you got away with), AND you show up late for court... it's gonna piss the judge off.

That last part I don't think was her fault... the sheriff was the one who was supposed to pick her up, after all, and she thought she could appear via telephone (which is not a bizarre thing).

The judge wants to make an example out of her, and she is probably detoxxing from Oxycontin or something like that (I have seen people detox from this drug and my lord it is not a fun experience). Hence the medical issues and the hysterics. (They're running stories that she has extreme claustrophobia, lol)

But I certainly do not think she should do the full 45 days (if, indeed she ever was). The "getting out of jail" thing was NOT her decision, but rather, that of the sheriff, and Paris shouldn't have to pay for that.

On a side note, here was the email I got from Al this morning:

What a mess. But...here we are talking about it!!!

Not to speak for Mori, as she does that so very well on her own, but I thought she was talking about being late to the court date arising from her second probation violation, the incident that resulted in the original 45 day sentence... not this latest incident

Neither do I, and it's my understanding she won't if she doesn't cause any more trouble. She still applies for time off for good behavior (LOL) and will not serve the full 45 days if she keeps her nose clean.

The thing is, I'd *hate* to be in solitary confinement. While I tend to like being inside my own head, it's nice to know I have a choice about it. If I'm forced to spend time in my head, I go bonkers. I understand that some girl's probably going to try and kick her a$s in general pop so... she really doesn't have a choice about it, either way.

The more of the antics I see, the crying, the shaking (especially the shaking), calling out for mommy like she's 5... I have to agree with Fej, it really makes me think she's on drugs or alcohol and having withdrawals. She's emotionally stunted, something else I've seen before with habitual and chronic drug users.

I think I am weird. Right now I would love to have a few days of solitary.

Careful what you wish for there Kevy. Fate has a way of granting your wishes but note exactly under the circumstances you envision! :)

Exactly~ why did she drive on a suspended license? She has people who open her mail {she said this is why she missed some important mail} so of course she is going to have a driver to take her anywhere, anytime. She just didn't worry because her parents money always fixed things.

Her face, her behaviour, extremely childish and really does look like someone coming off of something. Well, if her parents took charge in the first place, for her since she wouldn't, she should have been in rehab right off the bat. She obviously had a problem with all of the trouble she kept getting in to.

I will have to throw in my .02c about the sentencing. I think it is probably fair, especially with the fact when she went in it was already figured she'd only do 23 days. It wasn't a first offense, she had priors and her attitude about the whole mess, she didn't deserve another chance.

Does anyone remember why Lil' Kim was in jail? And for how long?

Lil Kim committed perjury.. I think she got a year.

Thank you, Lashdear. :)

This summarizes my supreme schadenfreude perfectly:

I think you summed it up neatly, SM

awesome. I need to share this one.

yeah, I think I even did the same laugh when I saw that pic.
:snap: :snap:

This headline has me leaning towards being on Sheriff Baca's side.

Then why on earth didn't he provide the medical documentation to the judge? The judge made it very clear that it had not been provided, and even called for it during the last court date several times. Baca is trying to save his job, and he and Hilton's family are going to say and do anything to get people on their side. If she was so concerned about a toilet picture, why flash her crotch every chance she gets? I don't buy it.

Oh, my change of mind has nothing to do with any of that. I just figured anyone who is doing something that pisses Sharpton off enough to demand you have an audience with him is doing something right.

It is a cage; it's supposed to be unpleasant. It's efing Jail!

What a worthless waste of oxygen!

Stuff on Yahoo

I guess that I've always been of the opinion that people are redeemable and can change, but the change has to be on their own. That and I don't think I care enough about her to get charged up in any way.

Maybe she'll get growed up, maybe she won't... All I know is I have you guys to thank for reading whatever there is about her on my homepage.

Thaaannnkks. :p

I'd just like to say that it's people like Paris that give us kids born in '81 a REALLY bad rap!

Oh well...if Nicole Richie gets convicted of her crime, maybe they could do a season of "Simple Life" behind bars.

The sad fact is, it is an act. Anyone catch her SNL appearance? Much to my surprise, she's not an idiot. She was actually one of the better hosts I've seen. She's got a brain, she just, for many reasons (some obvious, some likely only she knows), chooses not to use it.

Has the headline changed since you posted the link?

Never mind. You answered the question in a later post.

Is Barbara Walters doing a in-jail interview with paris?

Nicole will never be put in jail - it's too easy for her to escape between the bars. ;)

LOL! I see you got it too ?!

I didn't understand it at first, but then I read PerezHilton and then it all made sense.

Eesh! So much over someone so little.

This thread has a lot of guessing what "normal" is for a sentence and time served in a situation like Paris Hilton's. This LA Times article has a lot of actual statistics.

One sentence sums it up pretty well:

Though is bears noting that her sentence and time served is not a complete outlier.

No - I've never done drugs...
 

No - I've never done drugs said Paris Hilton in her Larry King interview.

And then this: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...ishilton1.html

Videos of her lighting up, talking about it, clear as day. Someone's pants are cleary on fire!


I don't condemn her for doing them - but come on now. After all that, she goes on TV and professes her innocence and now this? What was she thinking? Why not just admit to it all right then and there and rip the bandaid off quick. Get it over with - express that you are ready to make a fresh clean start - or that you are a party girl and so f-ing what - and get on with it. But at least be honest about it.