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cirquelover 06-26-2007 06:21 PM

Couple abandons child for Disney ride
 
On MSN it says a couple abandon their child to go on a disney ride. It's a video though and I have no sound so I have no idea if it's WDW or Disneyland. Anybody know anything about this? It looks like POTC in the video.

Maybe they never heard of a child swap pass:rolleyes:

Kevy Baby 06-26-2007 06:27 PM

From the Orlando Sentinel
 


Two Parents Arrested After Child Found Abandoned Outside Disney Ride


Quote:

Two parents were arrested on child abuse counts after authorities found their child in a hot stroller outside Walt Disney World's Pirates of the Caribbean ride, according to an Orange County sheriff's report released Monday.

A Magic Kingdom patron alerted park management at about 4:45 p.m. Saturday after spotting an unattended 3-year-old girl in a stroller parked in the sun

The girl was hot, turning red, covered in sweat and apparently “lifeless,” the report states. A paramedic touched and shook her, but she failed to respond. Saturday's highs were in the low 90s with no rain, and deputies estimate the child was in the sun for between 45 minutes to 1 hour.
The whole story

Excuse me; I need to go beat two people senseless...

cirquelover 06-26-2007 06:36 PM

Thank you KB, I knew one of you would help me out.

I'll help you with the parents!

innerSpaceman 06-26-2007 07:30 PM

I blame Johnny Depp.

MouseWife 06-26-2007 07:32 PM

I can't believe the comments posted. Well, the ones comparing this to Jesus being left at the temple????

Or, forgive these parents, we've all made mistakes. Or, parents losing their kids. Kids get lost, being abandoned is different.

If they seriously did this by mistake, they are morons who should not be in charge of children.

Ghoulish Delight 06-26-2007 07:34 PM

Set it and forget it.

ozron 06-26-2007 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevy Baby (Post 145810)
Excuse me; I need to go beat two people senseless...

Tell me where and when. I'll join you.

Not Afraid 06-26-2007 08:13 PM

I can't decide if this is better or worse than leaving your child in a hot car.

Idiots.

JWBear 06-26-2007 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Not Afraid (Post 145829)
I can't decide if this is better or worse than leaving your child in a hot car.

Idiots.

OMG!!! No cow!!! I almost didn't recognize you!

~MS~ 06-26-2007 08:32 PM

The saddest part, there are more people than any of us would like to think about that see nothing wrong with that. There's a poster that's active on a couple boards that has two daughters, he bragged on how he left the younger one sleeping in her stroller while he took the older one on the MM in DCA, and how he posted them at the rail to watch the launch of Screaming so he could ride....and was offended when I mentioned that he could be grateful I wasn't around when it happened cuz I'd have called in Anaheim PD and informed his ex wife of his behavior....but he is constantly posting about what a big great christian he is.....so that makes his craptastical parenting ok I guess.

Mousey Girl 06-26-2007 08:52 PM

I am feeling a bit guilty right now for letting Nickolas goo off on his own this weekend. The differences being, I always knew where he was and he always knew where I was.

Not Afraid 06-26-2007 08:56 PM

He's also a bit older than this child.

wendybeth 06-26-2007 08:59 PM

Bit of an age difference as well, MG. You're a good mom, and he knows he's number one with you.


I am so frikking paranoid that something bad will happen to Tori that I never let her out of my sight. WTF is wrong with these people? Even if there is a remotely plausible explanation for what happened....nah, there isn't one. No way anyone with even half a parenting sense about them would have done this, not even accidentally. And in Disneyworld, of all places.:rolleyes:

wendybeth 06-26-2007 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JWBear (Post 145831)
OMG!!! No cow!!! I almost didn't recognize you!


I have to clean off my monitor now, tyvm.

:D

MouseWife 06-26-2007 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~MS~ (Post 145833)
The saddest part, there are more people than any of us would like to think about that see nothing wrong with that.

That is what got me in the comment section on the link. And they would bring up being lost themselves.

Being lost and being left are two different things. If you have lost your child, you {normally} look for them, are responsible in trying to find them.

I had to add the comment about how don't cha think whomever was in charge of the stroller should have taken the child out of it??? Does this mean maybe they were letting a child {with not enough common sense or maybe not big enough to carry the child} tend to the stroller????

And all of this bringing the bible in to it. Oh please, like that is the answer.

I think these people who are saying to forgive these people for the 'accident' have done things themselves. It isn't easy being a parent.

Ha, ~MS~. I was just telling someone today that it was years before I actually was able to go on whatever ride I wanted to, years. I did take my baby at 9 months and I tended to him no different than at home {naps, meals, etc.} and I was the person who would sit with the little ones {and some not so little ones} who were afraid to ride certain rides. I willingly did this because it seemed anyone else would tease them and make them feel badly for not riding whatever. So freakin' what. That man you talked about is a jerk.

~MS~ 06-27-2007 06:35 AM

I'm with you MW! My opinion of his behavior turned into quite the thread at the time and people are still thinking he's just this great dad cuz he takes his two daughters to Disney so often, to the point that they've missed so much school as to get warning letters about attendance....and he's posted/bragged about how he handles that as well....he's a piece of work for sure.

And MG you adore that boy and would never EVER put him in any position of 'neglect' ...he's not 3 .... and he has a good voice and skills to say Hey I'm lost and here's my moms cell number...so don't feel the least bit of guilt for letting him stretch those fledgling wings of his.

skinnylycan 06-27-2007 07:55 AM

I thought the point of Having a child was to Teach them how NOT to behave...

I feel that if your child or if there is a child with you that doesnt want or cant go on a ride, the parents or someone who is willing to should stay with the kid. One of my best friends sends her son to come visit me at disneyland alot and we both have alot of fun, but I know that I cant go on all the rides I like (like TOT). But I dont mind because I said I would bring him.


I just dont understand people...

MouseWife 06-27-2007 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~MS~ (Post 145902)
....he's a piece of work for sure.

...so don't feel the least bit of guilt for letting him stretch those fledgling wings of his.


Ugh, well, again, those people who think he is the best probably aren't so great, either. Maybe?

And, I agree, MG, if you have had your son learn that simple info, that is empowering for him. The ages for kids to be alone differs because some situations, some kids, are ready earlier than others. You are his mom, you would know.

skinnylycan~ So true.

Nephythys 06-27-2007 09:05 AM

I commented- but it is not posted yet.

Those comments are stunning- especially in their lack of reading comprehension- one thinks the little girl died, she didn't (thank God), one thinks the parents did not go on POTC, they did. And many seem to miss that this took place over about 2 HOURS before they showed up looking for her.

I mean WTH??

blueerica 06-27-2007 09:11 AM

I find that happens a lot, Neph - either it's not read all the way, it's skimmed, or it's just not altogether comprehended. There's a part of me that doesn't understand how that happens, and there's a part of me that's learned to accept that it does. Same with leaving kids in strollers while going on rides.

Losing a child and abandonment are two different things, IMO, and this was clearly abandonment. :(

MouseWife 06-27-2007 09:13 AM

This attitude bodes well with the attitude I saw one of the last times I was there on a weekend.

Have fun, regardless if it is right or wrong. {Eh, she'll sleep for a couple of hours...}

I have never ever seen so many wheelchairs waiting in line for any ride as I did that day. The rented kind loaded up with people. People who looked fine. Two young men I saw {one a young teen the other probably 10} had a wheelchair. They took turns pushing themselves around. They parked it and went walking on to the Columbia {?} playing around on it and taking pictures.

Don't you still have to have a pass to get on the rides even with a wheelchair????

About the comments, I need to go back and Babelfish that post someone put in Spanish...it looked pretty harsh....

Ponine 06-27-2007 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by MouseWife (Post 145972)
About the comments, I need to go back and Babelfish that post someone put in Spanish...it looked pretty harsh....

I'm pretty sure is was exaclty the same thing they said in English right above it.
It was harsher, but it was all in the translation.

NirvanaMan 06-27-2007 10:05 AM

Perhaps they just didn't have a large enough bucket handy.

alphabassettgrrl 06-27-2007 10:27 AM

I'm astounded they didn't go looking for their tiny kid for two hours. I didn't read the full story or the comments, or I'd probably be a whole lot more angry.

Yes, people make mistakes, but really. Leaving your 3-year old kid??? To go on a *ride*??? No. My mother passed up a lot of things when we were young. Now they've got the baby-swap thing but even if that had been around I doubt she'd have gone to the trouble of doing that.

It's not a point of honor to brag about what you "get away with". How about teaching your kids to do the right thing? How about honor and responsibility? The guy has his kids out of school so much they're getting warnings about attendance? That's not good. What about when something happens? His kid disappears? Who's going to be the first to scream help me?

Stupid people. Where does the line form to start the beatings?

Nephythys 06-27-2007 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueerica (Post 145969)
I find that happens a lot, Neph - either it's not read all the way, it's skimmed, or it's just not altogether comprehended. There's a part of me that doesn't understand how that happens, and there's a part of me that's learned to accept that it does. Same with leaving kids in strollers while going on rides.

Losing a child and abandonment are two different things, IMO, and this was clearly abandonment. :(

IMO if people are going to open their mouths in the comments the least they could do is read the story and actually comprehend it.

katiesue 06-27-2007 10:39 AM

OMG how exactly does one "accidentially" leave their kid on a stroller while they're going on a ride? I'm fairly certain I would notice that my kid wasn't with me. And it's a ride that little kids can go on too, so it's not like they need to leave her in the stroller.

I spent YEARS not going on rides because Maddy was the world's biggest chicken. She didn't start going on all the "big" rides until just over a year ago. When we went by ourselves we just did things she was comfortable doing. If we were with a group then someone, usually me, would stay out with her or go on another ride while we waitied. No biggie really.

Now she wants to go on rides totally by herself - um no. She's 11 but I stilll wouldn't leave her alone while I went on any ride. What if it broke down or something and I was in there for hours? I let her have a little freedom. If we're waiting for fireworks or something she'll run and buy popcorn or use the restroom. She knows her way around and she comes right back. She actually loves having a little independence and is proud that I "trust" her to go off a little on her own. But I'd never leave her waiting outside a ride.

AllyOops! 06-27-2007 12:22 PM

I highly doubt that both Mary & Joseph would have left a young, mouse-ears wearing Jesus in the blazing son while they both hopped aboard Pirates of the Caribbean. They weren't those kinds of parents. Plus, they seem more like It's A Small World folk. That attraction sends a loving and positive message. Plus, Jesus has the power to empty the lines in one blink. He's the best ever to take to Disneyland! Jesus was, is & always will be the hot doggity. :snap: :)

(I just totally had visions of Jesus turning the Pirates water into wine making that ride a billion times more fun.) ;)

Those parents are neglectful. When my beloved labradors were alive I never let them stay in the sun on a hot day. They were always indoors with plenty of fresh water. Sometimes with ice cubes. :)

You know, I'm on my fourth paragraph & I still really haven't commented on the poor neglected child. I tend to get off the subject super easily..

I'll make it simple: if you leave a child in the searing hot sun baking to death, you suck. If you ashpyxiate both your wife & 7 year old son in a murder-suicide, you suck. If you murder your wife & her friend and then flee in your white bronco, you also suck. End of flippin' story.

RStar 06-27-2007 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllyOops! (Post 146033)

(I just totally had visions of Jesus turning the Pirates water into wine making that ride a billion times more fun.) ;)

But in the spirit of the ride, wouldn't he have made it RUM? ;)

Gemini Cricket 06-27-2007 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cirquelover (Post 145806)
On MSN it says a couple abandon their child to go on a disney ride.

Honestly, there must be a better way to teach a child self-reliance.

CrazyLegs 06-30-2007 12:03 AM

Thats just nuts if you ask me

NickO'Time 07-06-2007 09:46 AM

Moronic parents. I would love to be one in line ready to slap those two idiots:mad: . Amazing.

tracilicious 07-06-2007 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket (Post 146103)
Honestly, there must be a better way to teach a child self-reliance.


Totally...like letting them have all the closeness and attachment that they have evolved to expect. It's amazing how early confidence develops in an attached child.

I can't bring myself to feel anger at these parents. What they did was horrible. But I can't help but think how f*cked up they must be to have a detachment to their child that would allow them to do this. I wonder what was done to them to kill that natural instinct. And now the girl will maybe be put in foster care (let's hope she has some relatives that will care for her) where there's a good chance that she'll be subjected to further abuse. It's too sad for me to get mad at.


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