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innerSpaceman 08-27-2007 12:34 PM

Attorney General Alberto Gonzales Resigns (At Last)
 
September 17 is his last day. He resigned Friday and announced it today.

There goes the biggest shield the President had against having his entire last year mired in constant Congressional investigations.


Go, Waxman, Go!

wendybeth 08-27-2007 12:45 PM

The rats are scurrying. I wonder what bone Gonzales is getting thrown for sacrificing himself? I really doubt he'd resign without Dubya's instigation, or rather Cheney's.....:rolleyes:

innerSpaceman 08-27-2007 01:07 PM

No way. Bush wanted him to stay till the end, and desperately so. Seriously, no one else at the Justice Department will move to thwart the tsunami tide of Congressional investigations of this Administration's misdeeds.

wendybeth 08-27-2007 01:11 PM

Well, Bush may be a lame duck, but Cheney is probably not yet ready to cede power- he intends to be a player as long as he can. So, I'm a bit suspicious as to the timing here; if Gonzales resigns now, they can get what is bound to get drug out in public over with, and have that much time to clean up and shore up. Gonzales was not going to go one minute, then the next he's suddenly had it? I don't buy that for a second, unless there is some deal going down that we don't know about yet.

DreadPirateRoberts 08-27-2007 01:16 PM

I'm not sure where I heard it (probably NPR), but I believe that anyone who wasn't going to stay with the president until the end was supposed to resign before labor day, so this may not be the last resignation this week.

Gemini Cricket 08-27-2007 01:18 PM

It seems like there's a lot of resignations with this administration. Did previous presidents have this many?

Tref 08-27-2007 01:23 PM

BREAKING NEWS! Gonzales Claims Not To Recall Resigning. Returns To Office
 
Former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales returned to his office to-day after apparently forgetting that he had resigned at a press conference only minutes before. "I don't recall resigning,” said a confused Gonzales. According to witnesses, Gonzales was surprised to find Solicitor General Paul Clement occupying his former office. After aides explained that he had, only moments before, resigned from the position of Attorney General, Gonzales reportedly replied, "I was Attorney General? Whoa!"

Kevy Baby 08-27-2007 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket (Post 158903)
It seems like there's a lot of resignations with this administration. Did previous presidents have this many?

A fair amount of rotation is normal.

Alex 08-27-2007 01:37 PM

There is frequently a high turnover of top positions following the re-election of a president and again after the last mid-term of a presidential term, simply because the players need to start positioning themselves for their post presidential life (be it getting rich in the private sector, hooking their wagon to another political powerhouse, or seeking elective office of their own).

But I think the electoral defeat last November and the scandals since somewhat tempered that since unless they really were pushed out because of theme (Rumsfeld) they would want to avoid the perception of a connection and so they've bunched up a bit at a later date in the administration than might be normal.

I don't know if the numbers are similar compared to Clinton and Reagan but I don't find them all that surprising. That said, I don't think that such machinations have anything to do with the resignation and timing thereof for Gonzalez. I wouldn't be surprised if we learn the decision was made months ago and held until a relatively quiet period (and August is always a quiet period) so that they could at least pretend it had nothing to do with the senate testimonies.

I do find the idea that this is timed to do a recess appointment (which wouldn't require any congressional approval) very interesting but really do hope not.

Morrigoon 08-27-2007 02:45 PM

I wonder how long until the international war crimes trial? Remember how they hunted Nazis all over the globe?

(Oh dear, I didn't just invoke Godwin's Law, did I?)

innerSpaceman 08-27-2007 02:53 PM

Semblence that this is not tied to the Senate testimonies?!?!? You've got to be kidding? They would have to have waited till August 2017.

Prudence 08-27-2007 02:59 PM

Now I don't have to feel as skanky while I fill out my application for the DoJ AG's honors program. Yay!

Gn2Dlnd 08-27-2007 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morrigoon (Post 158930)

(Oh dear, I didn't just invoke Godwin's Law, did I?)

Little bit.

Motorboat Cruiser 08-27-2007 04:12 PM

What I found humorous is that CNN reported (I don't know if they changed it or not) that the administration claimed this was a complete surprise this morning and they had no prior knowledge it was going to happen.

Problem is, I heard about it on Friday, including who was going to replace him. Granted, it was just rumor but apparently my sources are better than the White House's. ;)

scaeagles 08-27-2007 04:16 PM

I've heard of his impending resignation for the last three months from about every media pundit there is.

Morrigoon 08-27-2007 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gn2Dlnd (Post 158968)
Little bit.

Yes, but doesn't mentioning it negate its argument-terminating effects?

3894 08-27-2007 05:16 PM

Bush/Cheney is cleaning house, singular verb intended. First Karl Rove, now this guy. CNN pointed out this morning that this was an ideal - and probably planned - time for Gonzales to resign. Congress is out of town.

Kevy Baby 08-27-2007 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morrigoon (Post 158983)
Yes, but doesn't mentioning it negate its argument-terminating effects?

No

BarTopDancer 08-27-2007 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevy Baby (Post 158985)
No

yes.

Kevy Baby 08-27-2007 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BarTopDancer (Post 159000)
yes.

Maybe

BarTopDancer 08-27-2007 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevy Baby (Post 159002)
Maybe

Maybe not

Prudence 08-27-2007 06:44 PM

Contrariwise

lindyhop 08-27-2007 08:42 PM

"I don't know." - Alberto Gonzales

wendybeth 08-27-2007 08:50 PM

And Lindyhop brings us expertly back on topic.:cheers:

Now, where were we? Oh, yeah:

Possibly.

innerSpaceman 08-27-2007 09:00 PM

Personally, I won't be satisfied till the likes of Gonzales, Rove and Rumsfeld are finally in hell .... but, in the meantime, it's nice to have them resign the cushy posts they operated so nefariously in.

CoasterMatt 08-27-2007 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lindyhop (Post 159034)
"I don't know." - Alberto Gonzales

Where's the green slime?


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