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RStar 02-11-2008 10:23 AM

A math question......
 
Math is not my best subject (only second worst to spelling!).

I'm going nuts trying to figure out how to do this.

How do I figure what % of 7 is 4.8?

It seems so simple, yet.......

:rolleyes:

blueerica 02-11-2008 10:36 AM

I think it's 68.57%. You should be able to just divide 4.8 by 7.

blueerica 02-11-2008 10:38 AM

I also am a heavy user of the cross-multiply and divide technique, which is a way I tend to represent "this is to this as that is to that" mathematically. So, you could cross-multiply 4.8 and 100 to get 480. Then divide that by 7 which equals the same thing I told you earlier. Sort of a 4.8 is to 7 as X is to 100 set up.

I think I made that more complicated than it needed to be.

Ghoulish Delight 02-11-2008 10:54 AM

Percentage couldn't be easier.

To find what percent A is of B:

A/B * 100

RStar 02-11-2008 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight (Post 191027)
Percentage couldn't be easier.

To find what percent A is of B:

A/B * 100

That's what I thought, but I was forgetting to multiply by 100 and wasn't sure if the 0.6857 was truley 68.57%.

Thanks guys, I knew I could count on you. :snap:

BarTopDancer 02-11-2008 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by blueerica (Post 191019)
I also am a heavy user of the cross-multiply and divide technique, which is a way I tend to represent "this is to this as that is to that" mathematically. So, you could cross-multiply 4.8 and 100 to get 480. Then divide that by 7 which equals the same thing I told you earlier. Sort of a 4.8 is to 7 as X is to 100 set up.

I think I made that more complicated than it needed to be.

Brain melting.

Kevy Baby 02-11-2008 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueerica (Post 191019)
I think I made that more complicated than it needed to be.

Yep!

Drince88 02-11-2008 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueerica (Post 191019)
I think I made that more complicated than it needed to be.

Yes - but you did make me smile. My Mom's theory of practical math is that everything that isn't simple arithmetic can be expressed in a ratio problem. And I've found very few examples where that wasn't true. Most of what I do know is making units cancel, which is another way of looking at ratios!

Cadaverous Pallor 02-11-2008 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by blueerica (Post 191019)
Sort of a 4.8 is to 7 as X is to 100 set up.

I totally use this method. It's the only way I can remember the relationships. It takes a few steps but it's always right :)

Kevy Baby 02-11-2008 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor (Post 191249)
I totally use this method. It's the only way I can remember the relationships. It takes a few steps but it's always right :)

Maybe I am missing something, but I always believe it is better to KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid*). By adding steps, you introduce additional opportunities to make a mistake.

In the grand scheme of things, it doesn't matter all that much though.




* No, I am not calling anyone stupid: it is just the acronym

Drince88 02-11-2008 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevy Baby (Post 191253)
Maybe I am missing something, but I always believe it is better to KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid*). By adding steps, you introduce additional opportunities to make a mistake.

Yes, you do introduce opportunities - but if you're starting from a known correct place vs a potentially wrong place, it's better to go the long way around and double check for mistakes, then not know if you're in the right starting place.

blueerica 02-11-2008 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevy Baby (Post 191253)
Maybe I am missing something, but I always believe it is better to KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid*). By adding steps, you introduce additional opportunities to make a mistake.

In the grand scheme of things, it doesn't matter all that much though.




* No, I am not calling anyone stupid: it is just the acronym

Kevy, I'm pretty sure we've all heard the acronym by now... hehe ;) Anyone who hasn't probably needs to crawl out of that rock they've been living under.

On the other hand, I suspect that CP is more language person, such as myself. I have always done well in math, but because I relate it to something else - usually using vocabulary and logic type questions, kind of like the SATs. And like Drince said, it's better to take a little longer coming from the correct place than it is to go quickly from the wrong place.

Alex 02-11-2008 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Drince88 (Post 191243)
Yes - but you did make me smile. My Mom's theory of practical math is that everything that isn't simple arithmetic can be expressed in a ratio problem. And I've found very few examples where that wasn't true. Most of what I do know is making units cancel, which is another way of looking at ratios!

Assuming a constant rate of water being added, if you overfill your old-fashioned clawfoot bathtub what will the upward velocity of your rubber ducky be at the moment the tub reaches capacity and begins to overflow?

What? That was what constituted practical math in my calculus classes.

But yeah, for figuring out percentages I use the cross multipication method. Or if an estimate is sufficient I would have said that since 7 is approximately 1/14th of 100 then just multiply 5 by 14 to get 70 and then subtract -- to get back to 4.8 from 5 -- .2 x 14 (2.8) to get an approximate answer (67.2%) which isn't all that far from the correct number (68.6%) and is all math that is easily done mentally.

Ghoulish Delight 02-11-2008 10:12 PM

Whereas I would have figured that 5/7 is a about 70% (70.173 or so I believe). .2/7 is about 2.8%, so yeah, the same ~67.2% as Alex gout (though I might have gone up to 68.5, figuring in that .173).

Alex 02-11-2008 10:16 PM

Ok, fine. I was being fancy. Realistically, I'm used to the number enough that off the top of my head I know that 4.66 is 2/3rds of 7 so I'd have said "a bit more than 67%."

So, as you see, there are all kinds of ways to approach the problem. Not the least valid of which is "ask on a message board."

As a nomination for "least valid" I nominated carving the question into the chest skin of a long-term comatose patient in hopes that they one day wake up and answer you.

wendybeth 02-12-2008 12:41 AM

Why am I thinking of African Swallows right now?

blueerica 02-12-2008 09:45 AM

Laden or unladen?

Kevy Baby 02-12-2008 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wendybeth (Post 191329)
Why am I thinking of African Swallows right now?

What's wrong with the European ones?


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