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Kevy Baby 05-16-2008 03:39 PM

Pope thanks virgins for 'total gift' to Christ
 
Pope thanks virgins for 'total gift' to Christ
Consecrated virgins take vow of lifelong chastity in service of Church


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VATICAN CITY - Pope Benedict thanked consecrated women virgins gathering at the Vatican on Thursday for their "total gift" to Christ, praising a holy rite that he recognized was difficult for some non-Catholics to understand.
Full Story.

And to all you virgins: thank for nothing!

SacTown Chronic 05-16-2008 05:26 PM

It's true, Christ loves the virgins! He and Muhammad have a lot in common.

Gemini Cricket 05-16-2008 05:26 PM

Ugliest. Pope. Ever!

GusGus 05-16-2008 05:30 PM

and what is Jesus going to do with all that virginity?

lashbear 05-16-2008 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevy Baby (Post 211388)
And to all you virgins: thanks for nothing!

Beat me to it ! :p

Kevy Baby 05-16-2008 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by lashbear (Post 211446)
Beat me to it ! :p

Ahh... nothing like quoting ancient bumper stickers.

€uroMeinke 05-16-2008 08:52 PM

Did some of them ride horses?

3894 05-17-2008 05:13 AM

The Consecrated are not exactly nuns, do I have that right? So do they have to wear nun shoes and handbags?

LSPoorEeyorick 05-17-2008 08:49 AM

How about "Pope thanks virgins for the only way permitted for Catholics to reduce the population overgrowth"? That one works for me.

Wait, no it doesn't. What a sad life - not even a nun, and unable to have a life of their own. Do they have the male equivalent of un-priest and virginal? (Of course they don't, they're too low on priests. Why don't they look to the WOMEN to be leaders for a change, hello. Stupid patriarchal....)

Strangler Lewis 05-17-2008 12:49 PM

Has anyone made this gender bender movie? A young nun, sexually abused by priests, conspires with her family to pose as her brother, a dying seminarian who miraculously recovers. She is ordained and rises through the church hierarchy, repeatedly abusing some very confused altar boys along the way. Eventually, she is elevated to pope. Then she becomes pregnant by one of the altar boys. Hijinks ensue.

CoasterMatt 05-17-2008 01:23 PM

One of the highlights of my college days was scoring with a "consecrated virgin" - thank you Robert Mondavi (ok, it was probably Boone's Farm or Thunderbird, but firewater was involved) :evil:

Alex 05-17-2008 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by LSPoorEeyorick (Post 211477)
Do they have the male equivalent of un-priest and virginal? (Of course they don't, they're too low on priests.

Yes they do. Monks need not be ordained and many (most?) are not.

lashbear 05-17-2008 05:17 PM

One Nun makes sure the other Nun don't get none.

Alex 05-17-2008 05:33 PM

True story:

An uncle of mine was in a horrible car accident (he was in Indiana and my mom and grandmother immediately flew out because they weren't sure he'd make it). When he eventually woke up and came out from under sedation the very first words he said was telling that joke the nun/nurse at his bedside (for some reason he ended up in a Catholic hospital).


"Why do nuns always walk in pairs?..."

Kevy Baby 05-19-2008 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex (Post 211532)
"Why do nuns always walk in pairs?..."

So what's the punch? Don't leave me hanging!!!

Alex 05-19-2008 10:34 AM

Lashbear gave the punchline.

Moonliner 05-19-2008 10:47 AM

Can I work at the return desk for these gifts?

Nephythys 05-19-2008 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by LSPoorEeyorick (Post 211477)
How about "Pope thanks virgins for the only way permitted for Catholics to reduce the population overgrowth"? That one works for me.

Wait, no it doesn't. What a sad life - not even a nun, and unable to have a life of their own. Do they have the male equivalent of un-priest and virginal? (Of course they don't, they're too low on priests. Why don't they look to the WOMEN to be leaders for a change, hello. Stupid patriarchal....)

These women made a choice- so tell me something- why is it we only honor and respect their choices when it agrees with what we would choose?

Who are you, or me, or anyone else- to decree their life is "sad" and imply they only live that way due to some over-bearing male domination?

Isn't that a tad arrogant and hypocritical?

Strangler Lewis 05-19-2008 11:26 AM

Unless one is the Austrian girl chained up in the dungeon, one is making choices. The question is whether the choice is a healthy one or an extreme one that appears to be the product of some coercion.

I will happily criticize both ends of the spectrum. I don't respect and honor the choices these virgins make, and I don't respect and honor the choices made by drunken coeds pretending to be porn lesbians for Girls Gone Wild and the like.

Kevy Baby 05-19-2008 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex (Post 211661)
Lashbear gave the punchline.

Doh! (Never heard that one.)

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Originally Posted by Strangler Lewis (Post 211672)
...and I don't respect and honor the choices made by drunken coeds pretending to be porn lesbians for Girls Gone Wild and the like.

I do!

And for the record, they are not lesbians, they are all "experimenting" and/or "bi-curious", which is just fine by me.

LSPoorEeyorick 05-19-2008 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Nephythys (Post 211668)
These women made a choice- so tell me something- why is it we only honor and respect their choices when it agrees with what we would choose?

Who are you, or me, or anyone else- to decree their life is "sad" and imply they only live that way due to some over-bearing male domination?

Isn't that a tad arrogant and hypocritical?

I didn't say that they made that choice due to over-bearing male domination. I said they weren't able to choose to be a priest because of it.

And I *do* think their lives are sad. I've known far too many sad priests and nuns not to. Watching them play with children they can never have, watching them look wistfully at happy couples they can never be. And I've known far too many women who make the choice to be nuns because they feel they have no other option. (And many former nuns, too.)

And these women aren't nuns. They are choosing to spend their lives neither connecting fully to other people, nor fully connected in service to the church. It seems, to me, quite a half-life. And - perhaps this is the better phrasing - I would be quite sad to live it that way.

LSPoorEeyorick 05-19-2008 12:13 PM

*this is not to say that one's life is fulfilled only through coupledom and child-rearing. Not the case. But to ask those who both want to lead a church and raise a family to pick one but not the other - it's long been a beef of mine with my church of origin.

**and to ask someone to neither lead a church nor raise a family, that seems a bit odd too. Maybe my question is: why? If the Catholic stance is that one, in order to lead, must not be distracted by the complexity of one's own family/sexuality... what is the reason consecrated virgins are asked to refrain? Is it that sexual behavior is impure? Because - in their own teaching, sex for procreation IS pure. So it brings me back to my very first statement: is this an exhaulted thing because it's the only permitted process of population reduction?

mousepod 05-19-2008 12:36 PM

I think Christ is massing tons of virgins in Heaven so that the Pope can start recruiting terrorists.

"You get 85 virgins with us!"

JWBear 05-19-2008 12:38 PM

I don't see what the attraction to virgins is all about. I prefer someone with who knows what they're doing.

Kevy Baby 05-19-2008 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JWBear (Post 211698)
I don't see what the attraction to virgins is all about. I prefer someone with who knows what they're doing.

  1. With a virgin, you will be the best she (or) has ever had (at least until the next one).
  2. With a virgin, you can get them to do things someone with experience might not, "oh, that's a very normal thing to do."
Not that I have ever put any thought into the subject.


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