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BarTopDancer 06-30-2008 03:37 PM

Last Call for XP
 
Microsoft to stop selling XP on Monday.

Story here


With some exceptions.

Quote:

Once computers loaded with XP have been cleared from the inventory of PC makers such as Dell Inc. and Hewlett-Packard Co., consumers who can't live without the old operating system on their new machine will have to buy Vista Ultimate or Vista Business and then legally "downgrade" to XP.

Microsoft will still allow smaller mom-and-pop PC builder shops to buy XP for resale through the end of January. A version of XP will also remain available for ultra-low-cost PCs such as the Asus Eee PC.

innerSpaceman 06-30-2008 03:55 PM

Geez, I hope my computer lasts a lot longer than they're supposed to.

Kevy Baby 06-30-2008 05:45 PM

I wonder how long you will be able to get a copy at Fry's?

lashbear 06-30-2008 05:51 PM

Do you really want Fry's with that ?

Cadaverous Pallor 06-30-2008 05:56 PM

I kept hearing that they were going to delay this at least until v7, due to the fact that XP runs wonderfully well on the small laptops that are becoming more popular (while Vista most decidedly does not). Guess the tech pundits were wrong.

Moonliner 06-30-2008 06:28 PM

How long before they turn off the validation servers and you can no longer re-install XP?

Kevy Baby 06-30-2008 06:29 PM

How long til Microsoft disappears?







A man can dream!

BarTopDancer 06-30-2008 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor (Post 221889)
I kept hearing that they were going to delay this at least until v7, due to the fact that XP runs wonderfully well on the small laptops that are becoming more popular (while Vista most decidedly does not). Guess the tech pundits were wrong.

Stupid memory hog OS.

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Originally Posted by Moonliner (Post 221901)
How long before they turn off the validation servers and you can no longer re-install XP?

Probably when they stop offering tech support for it...

Kevy Baby 06-30-2008 06:38 PM

Anyone know what the oldest version of Windows is that MS currently does offer tech support for?

I could go look, but then I am lazy right now.

Moonliner 06-30-2008 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevy Baby (Post 221905)
Anyone know what the oldest version of Windows is that MS currently does offer tech support for?

I could go look, but then I am lazy right now.

I'm fairly sure it's XP.

Kevy Baby 06-30-2008 06:43 PM

It appears there is still some Windows 2000 stuff on there. Although in this particular case, the only support should be:

Spoiler:
Get XP

BarTopDancer 06-30-2008 06:48 PM

After thinking about it, I don't foresee them turning off the validation servers for at least XP Pro any time soon - to many corporations are on XP and they will not be upgrading because they have to rebuild a machine, nor will they upgrade on Microsoft's whim.

Ghoulish Delight 06-30-2008 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BarTopDancer (Post 221903)
Stupid memory hog OS.

Less to do with memory than CPU and bus architecture. We have a desktop with Vista and a laptop. Each with the same memory. There's a marked difference in performance. Vista seems to have issues with mobile-optimized architecture.

BarTopDancer 06-30-2008 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight (Post 221928)
Less to do with memory than CPU and bus architecture. We have a desktop with Vista and a laptop. Each with the same memory. There's a marked difference in performance. Vista seems to have issues with mobile-optimized architecture.

Interesting. My old roommate has Vista on a desktop with no issues either. But he also has a ton of memory in there.

Though it still seems the only people I know who don't have issues with Vista are people who are tech savy.

LashStoat 06-30-2008 08:48 PM

Bear and I, after a month or so of giving Vista a go on his new laptop, voted with our feet.

At the expense of blowing away some of the (small) proprietary apps, we installed XP...the Acer Aspire 5720 laptop now tows the line, we can get stable drivers, and most importantly, we don't have to deal with the inherent paranoia that is Vista.

One day, it is my express wish that some company will develop an Operating Sytem that doesn't think it should be "center stage" at all times, and keeps out of our face so that we can actually be productive.

But it probably won't be a Microsoft product, or in my lifetime.

Love and hugs,

The Stoat XXX.

Chernabog 06-30-2008 08:49 PM

I just hate the fact that games I have installed on my compy (or old favorites) WILL NOT RUN AT ALL on Vista. Gamespot did a feature on that a while back, most games totally bit it in Vista. Sucks. I'll be on XP till my current compy explodes, or until a stable 64-bit OS becomes the norm.

Ghoulish Delight 06-30-2008 09:29 PM

I guess I'm just pretty adaptable. And yeah, as for being tech savy, it does help that I know how to disable most of the gee-whiz features/over-protective-security-comfirmations in Vista. But to be honest, I feel that way any time I borrow someone's laptop with OSX.

I know Vista's got some big holes, and I'm on the edge of dumping it from the laptop. But I'm actually finding myself very attached to some of the finer points (ginormous thumbnail previews,the start search box.

And at least it's stable (not that XP wasn't).

Hell, everyone should just take a moment and be thankful it's not ME.

LashStoat 06-30-2008 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Chernabog (Post 221931)
I just hate the fact that games I have installed on my compy (or old favorites) WILL NOT RUN AT ALL on Vista. Gamespot did a feature on that a while back, most games totally bit it in Vista. Sucks. I'll be on XP till my current compy explodes, or until a stable 64-bit OS becomes the norm.

Dear Cherny,

This may or may not help you: I have installed an MS product called Virtual PC that allows you to install any operating system inside a "sandbox". I have successfully run MS-DOS programs from the '80's with it no problemo. You can even share folders with the sandbox and your actual OS for file access.

Love and hugs,

The Stoat XXX.

BarTopDancer 06-30-2008 09:40 PM

Besides my roommates computer (that I didn't do much other than use the internet with) my only experience with it was trying to get BEs machine to run faster. It's a pretty OS, but I still prefer XP. Maybe if I had a chance to customize and remove the babysitting features I'd feel different.

My next machine will be a Mac.

JWBear 06-30-2008 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by LashStoat (Post 221930)
...One day, it is my express wish that some company will develop an Operating Sytem that doesn't think it should be "center stage" at all times, and keeps out of our face so that we can actually be productive...

They did... It was called O/S2 Warp. :D


(And talk about a cult.... Mac-Heads are nothing compared to O/S2 fanatics!)

Kevy Baby 06-30-2008 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight (Post 221938)
And yeah, as for being tech savy, it does help that I know how to disable most of the gee-whiz features/over-protective-security-comfirmations in Vista.

Yeah, that makes a big difference. I can't remember what the one thing that our rent-an-IT-guy told me to disable, but it made a WORLD of difference.

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Originally Posted by JWBear (Post 221943)
(And talk about a cult.... Mac-Heads are nothing compared to O/S2 fanatics!)

I'll give you that!



At the risk of getting bashed, I have to say that I have been extremely pleased with the Mac operating system over the years. And the current version IS a very stable 64-bit OS.

Kevy Baby 06-30-2008 10:15 PM

I stumbled on this photo:


Ghoulish Delight 06-30-2008 10:18 PM

Oh, I'm a Mac guy in the diaspora. I still feel deeply connected to Macs, and I'm a little bummed that we made the decision to invest back into the Windows world at a point where we could have pretty easily made the switch. But I realized the responsible thing to do was to invest in an actual backup solution and the simple fact was that I could get a technically comparable but less aesthetically desirable laptop AND a more than adequate backup option for the same money I would have spent on a single Mac system and adding reliable backup to that would have broken the budget. It was a tough decision, but in the end, as much as I love Mac, I love my data more.

Maybe I'll just try Linux of some stripe on the laptop.

mousepod 07-01-2008 09:05 AM

Sorry for this, but after almost two dozen posts, it's pretty much obligatory:

What's Windows?

The Original OC Adventure 07-18-2008 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Moonliner (Post 221901)
How long before they turn off the validation servers and you can no longer re-install XP?

There are ways around that.

Moonliner 07-18-2008 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by The Original OC Adventure (Post 225775)
There are ways around that.

In corporate environment where we strictly follow licencing requirements?

The Original OC Adventure 07-18-2008 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Moonliner (Post 225785)
In corporate environment where we strictly follow licencing requirements?

Okay, switch back to Windows 2000. No activation required. Just be sure to get the latest service packs.

Kevy Baby 07-18-2008 01:36 PM

But then you would be stuck with W2K. I think at that point I would rather have Vista.


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