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Gemini Cricket 05-28-2009 02:01 PM

Up
 
Up

97% on rottentomatoes.com!
Critics are saying it's 10 for 10 for Pixar...

Anyone seeing it this weekend?

I'm going to try.
:)

Ghoulish Delight 05-28-2009 02:07 PM

I'd really love to but I don't think our schedule's going to allow it :(

innerSpaceman 05-28-2009 02:09 PM

Believe it or not, I don't want to see it in 3-D. I doubt I'll see it this weekend, but whenever I do, it might be hard to find a non-3-D print.

scaeagles 05-28-2009 02:17 PM

Planning on it.

It can't be worse than what I took the kids to last weekend - Night at the Museum II. Really, really bad. Really bad. So even if Up sucks, which I doubt, it will seem like a masterpiece.

Snowflake 05-28-2009 02:33 PM

I'm planning on it sometime Sunday. Fortunately the theater near me (AMC 14 on Van Ness) is not showing the 3D print. Barring disaster, I plan to see it.

Moonliner 05-28-2009 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scaeagles (Post 285126)
Planning on it.

It can't be worse than what I took the kids to last weekend - Night at the Museum II. Really, really bad. Really bad. So even if Up sucks, which I doubt, it will seem like a masterpiece.

I had a bad feeling on that one. Glad I skipped it.

JWBear 05-28-2009 03:23 PM

We might.

Tref 05-28-2009 03:40 PM

I think I will be going the other direction and seeing Drag Me To Hell. I want to see Up, but DMTH will probably not be in the cinemas very long and hey -- its Raimi returning to his sweet horror roots.

Strangler Lewis 05-28-2009 03:50 PM

If "Up" is as good as people are saying, it will win some award for best movie released after most charmless and contrived looking trailer.

And, yes, I will see it, though probably not this weekend.

Cadaverous Pallor 05-28-2009 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tref (Post 285141)
I think I will be going the other direction and seeing Drag Me To Hell. I want to see Up, but DMTH will probably not be in the cinemas very long and hey -- its Raimi returning to his sweet horror roots.

It'd make a great double feature!

We plan on seeing both at some point.

Ghoulish Delight 05-28-2009 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strangler Lewis (Post 285143)
If "Up" is as good as people are saying, it will win some award for best movie released after most charmless and contrived looking trailer.

Commonly referred to as a "Pixar Movie".

LSPoorEeyorick 05-28-2009 04:44 PM

We're going with my brother (another big Disney/Pixar fan) and his kids. Love the review blurbs on metacritic.

RStar 05-29-2009 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor (Post 285145)
It'd make a great double feature!

We plan on seeing both at some point.

Drag me UP to Hell?? :D



I'm planning to see it in all it's glorious 3D Pixarness this weekend.

I may see Drag Me as well! :evil:

Cadaverous Pallor 05-30-2009 08:26 AM

People are saying it's amazing. 98% on RT.

Pixar comes through again. Hoping to see it soon.

innerSpaceman 05-30-2009 08:45 AM

I hemmed and hawed about 3-D vs. 2-D, but the $4 extra for 3-D decided for me.

On the one hand, I'd like to see it once in 3-D, since it won't be that way on subsequent home viewings ... but I don't want to be swayed by the oooo-ahhh factor my first time. It's either a great movie or it isn't. If it is, 3-D shouldn't matter.


Seeing it tonite. Excited. :D


(Irvine Spectrum at 6:30 pm, if anybody cares to join us!)

Scrooge McSam 05-30-2009 08:49 AM

I will be seeing it (3D) in a couple of hours.

I thought about just waiting til July so I could see it at the El Capitan but I can't wait THAT long.

Gn2Dlnd 05-30-2009 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scrooge McSam (Post 285405)
I will be seeing it (3D) in a couple of hours.

I thought about just waiting til July so I could see it at the El Capitan but I can't wait THAT long.

And by then they'll have moved on to the latest Myleycyrusjonasbrothersin3D thing anyhow.

Ghoulish Delight 05-30-2009 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman (Post 285404)
I hemmed and hawed about 3-D vs. 2-D, but the $4 extra for 3-D decided for me.

On the one hand, I'd like to see it once in 3-D, since it won't be that way on subsequent home viewings ... but I don't want to be swayed by the oooo-ahhh factor my first time. It's either a great movie or it isn't. If it is, 3-D shouldn't matter.

Will you look for the smallest screen you can see it on, since if it's a good movie, size of the screen shouldn't matter? What about the theater with the lowest-quality sound system possible, because really, if it's a good movie, THX shouldn't matter.

innerSpaceman 05-30-2009 11:15 AM

Well, TVs with larger screens and better sound systems than many theaters are common in many U.S. households. (Alas not mine). So that's not an apt comparison. And I don't agree with your presumption that 3-D is an exhibition improvement like good sound.


Frankly, it takes me out of the movie a little bit to wear those glasses. I'm very conscious of them. Also, while I enjoyed Nightmare Before Christmas in 3-D very much, I don't consider it better than the "regular" version. It seemed like a gimmick.


And ya know what else, $15.50 a ticket for the pleasure seemed a little steep.


And you're right about one thing, size of the screen won't really matter. If UP is as good as other Pixar movies, I'll be seeing 99% of my viewings on my TV screen, and will still like it.


I'm not looking for the smallest screen to watch it on tonight, but neither did it concern me that the 2-D version will likely be showing on a smaller screen than the 3-D.

RStar 05-30-2009 11:53 AM

If a 3D movie is done right, it will make it look more real, not gimicky. It should not have hatches leaving the screen right to your head or dinasaur spit flinging in your face. That said, it needs to be clean and not cause any discomfort. The glasses from Disney are comfortable and I forget I'm wearing them.

If the movie was made to be seen in 3D, you are not seeing it the way the film maker intended if you don't see it in 3D. Therefore you are not doing it or them justice.

LSPoorEeyorick 05-30-2009 12:00 PM

Well, my review will be so colored by the experience of watching the film that I guess I have decided to include those circumstances within this unconventional review. Most of it needs to be spoiler-tagged because very little of the plot set-up was used to promote the film, and its emotional throughline was surprising to us; I would like to preserve that for people who wish to go in as cold as Pixar may have intended.

Spoiler:
I had to be a six-hour drive away by dinner, but I felt, for some reason, extremely compelled to stay late so I could watch the film with my brother and his kids. Once we made the plans, I then felt extremely compelled to invite my father to join us. He initially refused, but after several discussions, he admitted he was beginning to feel survivor's guilt. He didn't believe he deserved to get to experience all of these things she was missing. We tried to listen and support him, and respect his needs, but remind him that Mom would have wanted him to keep living- something she tried to tell him many times before she passed. We kept the invite open. He said he had a day full of chores and couldn't come anyway.

Well, a series of events caused all of the chores to be completely cleared off his schedule, and he joined us to watch the film.

What we did not know going in was that the whole film surrounds a man whose survivor's guilt leads him to hang on with a fierce grip to the one thing he and his wife wanted to do together but never did. And here we are with my dad, whose life is now full of similar regrets. Watching a montage of a quiet, geeky bespactacled man whose life becomes filled with an immense passion due to a salty, bubbly young woman. We practically cut an identical montage just this week, their photos in slideshow for her memorial.

At first, I was really anxious. How could I have dragged my dad through this emotional minefield, as alternately beautiful and funny as it was?

Then we got to the film's turning point, as he discovers that his late wife's favorite adventures were the little ones she had with him every day. "Go have the next adventure," she writes. And we are all in tears, because it's as if Mom is telling dad herself.

As we left the theater, my dad and I agree that we feel Mom's hand in aligning things to get him there with us. "She's all over this," he says. "I wonder what the next adventure is."


I have never been touched so deeply by a Pixar film. Hell, by any film. So I don't think my review is a fair one. But I found it to be an extremely beautiful, moving and hopeful story that I think I'll be holding close to my heart for a good, long while.

mousepod 05-30-2009 12:37 PM

Not reading spoilers or reviews.... we're seeing it tonight in 3D.

Cadaverous Pallor 05-30-2009 12:55 PM

Ok, Vow Locked In, we're going tonight to DTD to see it in 3D.

Gn2Dlnd 05-30-2009 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RStar (Post 285435)

If the movie was made to be seen in 3D, you are not seeing it the way the film maker intended if you don't see it in 3D. Therefore you are not doing it or them justice.

Really? "Bolt," not in 3D, isn't doing the filmmaker justice?

I don't like the glasses because they cut off my peripheral vision. I like to see a movie in a theater precisely because I enjoy the crowd interaction, wearing blinders reduces that experience. "Coraline" in 3D didn't change my life either.

Ghoulish Delight 05-30-2009 01:35 PM

I wouldn't go as far, to say that not watching it in 3D is a somehow significantly lesser experience. It's still largely gimmick and may always be. But sound, color, special effects, cgi characters were all considered gimmicks at some point. And at the time they were. So I'm interested in seeing how a creative group like Pixar, who took c-gen animation from gimmick to artform, are approaching this new gimmick.

innerSpaceman 05-30-2009 02:19 PM

I'd like to see the 3-D version, really. I just wasn't sure if I wanted that to be my first time. It was such a toss-up, I let price decide.


If I love it, I'll catch a 3-D screening before it leaves theaters.

Scrooge McSam 05-30-2009 03:44 PM

Heidi, that was a beautiful review.

I thoroughly enjoyed the film, and didn't find it 3D gimmicky at all.

innerSpaceman 05-30-2009 09:52 PM

And so I will get to see it in 3-D after all, because I WILL be seeing again.


Loved, loved, loved, and LoVEd it.


I laughed. I cried. yes, i believe this is the first Pixar movie that actually made me cry. And i should have seen the moment coming a mile off, but that's what I love about movies that carry me away ... they also turn me into an unpredictive idiot.

Yay!

mousepod 05-30-2009 09:53 PM

Count me among the fans. Loved this movie, too.

innerSpaceman 05-30-2009 09:54 PM

hahaha, on the way home, i was actually thinking of you and hoping you found it loveworthy.

Snowflake 05-30-2009 10:00 PM

Loved it, just loved it.

Prudence 05-30-2009 10:13 PM

I am floating away, carried aloft by balloons of story-telling, movie-making bliss. This may be my favorite movie ever. I'm STILL crying off and on. And laughing. It was so beautiful. Every time I think the animation can't get better - it does. Every time I think the story-telling can't get better -- it does. I have some similar reactions to Heidi, which I will hide as well:

Spoiler:
My mom's parents are so in love. Sure, my grandmother was never a feisty, plucky tomboy, but they are still in love, and one of them is now leaving the other. I was in tears at that part of the montage, and I'm in tears again thinking about it. It was such a real human emotion, portrayed up there with pixels and magic.


And I think that's what I loved best about it. Emotional resonance, the Rat called it. It didn't beat me over the head with This Is How You Should Feel Now. Like the best of written stories, it presented the outlines and let me bring my own experiences to the story-telling and participate in the crafting. The emotions were natural responses to a very human tale.

Such an unlikely, wonderful film.

Nephythys 05-30-2009 10:33 PM

Just got back ourselves-count me also in the LOVED it group.

So much emotion, so much story-all without saying a word (in the montage of their life together). Such beautiful animation-delightful characters.

-and for an adventure that required total suspension of belief-everything about the characters and their emotions were as real as anything I have ever experienced.

I cried several times-beautiful movie.


(and the short-Partly Cloudy-was delightful as well)

Morrigoon 05-30-2009 11:52 PM

Wow, so much love going on here. I guess I'll have to see it this week. Will pick up tickets at work and try to catch it in the next few days.

Thanks everyone for spoiler tagging! (I'm trying not to peek!)

RStar 05-30-2009 11:54 PM

Didn't see it. Was sold out when we wanted to see it, so we saw Drag Me to Hell. Not bad, it was a fun ride, not scary, just kind of spooky. Had some great over-the-top special effects that made me laugh, or in some cases, want to through up. And had me guessing right up to the end. That Jypsy lady was one freaky character! I think she'd beat the pants off Fready or Jason any day!

Ghoulish Delight 05-31-2009 12:16 AM

Bawled. The whole time.

Bravo Pixar. Bravo.

Ghoulish Delight 05-31-2009 12:19 AM

And now I've read H's review and I've teared up again.

Cadaverous Pallor 05-31-2009 11:53 AM

WOW. How do they do it?? This movie is perfect. Totally original even as it touches on classic themes. Kept you involved the whole time. Absolutely gorgeous, too.

The 3D was a natural extension on the film. It would be much the same without it, though I'm glad we went for it, as it did add even more realism to the already realistic texture and scenery. (The 3D trailer for an ESPN extreme sports movie was a treat, too.)

You know how hard it is to wipe your tears while wearing 3D glasses?

I have no idea how to rank this among the Pixars, but it's definitely up there.

innerSpaceman 05-31-2009 12:19 PM

I think ranking Pixars is like ranking your children. A pointless exercise, but fun anyway.


Good point about the tear-wiping. I was obviously prescient in saving 3-D for my 2nd viewing.

CoasterMatt 05-31-2009 01:07 PM

I don't know, I was a pretty bad child. :evil:

Strangler Lewis 06-01-2009 05:59 AM

Thoroughly enjoyed it.

Now, let's pick it apart.

Nah.

I thought the ESPN movie trailer looked like a 70s era 3D baseball card from a cereal box.

Cadaverous Pallor 06-01-2009 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strangler Lewis (Post 285559)
I thought the ESPN movie trailer looked like a 70s era 3D baseball card from a cereal box.

It evoked that miniaturization photography, which I found neato.

Ghoulish Delight 06-01-2009 11:13 AM

Still thinking about this movie. It was so wonderful. Very Miyazaki (no surprise there).

I'm going to have to see it again just so I can remember my favorite moment (other than the bird and the dog making noise at each other). All I remember is a moment where the kid says something to the old man, and a look flashes across his face that said everything I was thinking in a millisecond. It was so subtle and so beautiful, but I don't remember what it was.

innerSpaceman 06-01-2009 11:35 AM

Heheh, go see it in 2-D and I'll see it in 3-D (I read a review saying the colors seemed a bit washed out in the 3-D as compared to the 2-D).

Alex 06-01-2009 02:20 PM

If anybody is interested, here was my review for MousePlanet. I liked it.

Snowflake 06-01-2009 02:45 PM

VAM, very nice review. :cool:

Cadaverous Pallor 06-01-2009 03:22 PM

I talked to a few coworkers and it seems people really were turned off by the advertising. I assured them that it was good. These are people that are somewhat into Disney so I'm sure they'd enjoy it.

Then there's the one coworker who is weirded out by anything CGI, including effects in movies, so he especially avoids Pixar. Doesn't like animation either. It bugs him that it's "not real".

Yes, he's quite the interesting fellow.

lashbear 06-01-2009 05:13 PM

Alex gave it 9/10? now I have to see it.

innerSpaceman 06-01-2009 06:25 PM

Isaac was lulled by the crappy advertising and was thus so pleasantly surprised.

For myself, I've long been used to craptacular trailers for Pixar, and was only surprised when one film (Cars) didn't floor me.


The exception on both counts was the terrific teaser trailer for The Incredibles, which featured no footage from the film, and which presaged my absolute favorite Pixar film ever. If this was a brilliant ploy (the fantastic trailer had me fearing the movie would suck), it has not been employed by Pixar since.

flippyshark 06-01-2009 08:27 PM

I agree, the trailers and promotional material for UP had me worried - but what a lovely and dare I say it UPLIFTING film! And for my money, the pure visual storytelling in the first act put Wall-E to shame for sheer emotional impact. (and that is saying something!)

So, I will venture to offer one observation that could be construed as negative - but only just. I was amazed at how well the movie introduced its fantastical elements gradually, thus achieving an amazing level of willing suspension of disbelief. There was only a single element that ran up against my UN-willingness.

Spoiler:
And that would be the dogs flying the fighter planes, especially as they grasped the bone-shaped triggers. This gag seemed to belong to another lesser movie, and briefly broke the spell for me. Only for a moment or two, though.


Everything else, I was delighted to buy into - and I still give this the highest honors. Time will tell where I stack it, but it's clearly going into the top tier of Pixar achievements.

Alex 06-01-2009 08:32 PM

Yeah, that came off as a bit of an overextension.

Oddly the part that kept troubling me (though not in any way I wasn't willing to ignore is that the entire house is suspended from the grate in his fireplace. Why that bothered me (again: minimally) but all the other impossible physics didn't I haven't a clue.

Strangler Lewis 06-01-2009 08:51 PM

I thought the grand quest lost a little poetic oomph the longer it went on and mundane details like how long the balloons would stay inflated came into play.

That said, I thought it was better than Ratatouille, which was half filled with zany, animated peril for its own sake and had a very unlikeable main (human) character.

innerSpaceman 06-01-2009 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex
Oddly the part that kept troubling me ... is that the entire house is suspended from the grate in his fireplace. Why that bothered me ... but all the other impossible physics didn't I haven't a clue.

Similar to that, it kinda bugged me where the balloons could have been "hiding" before they just rose up "behind" the house to astound the nursing home workers.

Eh, didn't much matter if I'm going to buy a floating house buoyed by standard balloons, whether or not controlled via fireplace.


As praised by none other than Alex ... once they fixed the Alpha Dog's collar, the intelligence of the screenwriters in not overplaying a joke allowed for any of the subsequent unbelievable shenanigans to be completely accepted on this end.

Strangler Lewis 06-01-2009 09:00 PM

Oh, and I agree about what bothered Flippy. I thought the same thing when they appeared and again when they were dispatched in a similarly clumsy way. I was, however, willing to buy into the talking dog collars because 1) it was funnier and 2) it seemed an apt expression of the explorer's screwed up priorities.

And did anyone else think Carl looked like Spencer Tracy from "Guess Who's Coming To Dinner?"

innerSpaceman 06-01-2009 09:24 PM

Yes, in fact, I read a couple of reviews commenting on the similarity. Maybe Spencer would have voiced the role if the movie had been made a few decades ago.

Alex 06-01-2009 10:03 PM

I also wanted Kirk Douglas for Muntz. That seems to be who they animated. I would have accepted the slurring, after all Muntz must be 90+.

Eliza Hodgkins 1812 06-01-2009 11:34 PM

I am so glad word of mouth was good or I may have skipped this one altogether. It was a Pixar fairy tale and I loved it. It touches upon the transitory nature of all human relationships (how they are beautiful, tragic, wonderful and heartbreaking), accomplishing in its first 10 minutes what Benjamin Button failed to do in 2+ hours.

Gemini Cricket 06-02-2009 03:02 AM

Once I get to a laptop (on the iPhone right now), I will post a more thorough review. I thought it was excellent. But I like Ratatouille, Nemo and the Incredibles better. I thought the first act was great but like Wall E, once more characters and dialogue came into play, the luster faded for me. Loved the two main characters and the dog.

Strangler Lewis 06-02-2009 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex (Post 285691)
I also wanted Kirk Douglas for Muntz. That seems to be who they animated. I would have accepted the slurring, after all Muntz must be 90+.

I thought Muntz had more of a Douglas Fairbanks, Jr. look.

innerSpaceman 06-02-2009 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket (Post 285711)
I like Ratatouille, Nemo and the Incredibles better. I thought the first act was great but like Wall E, once more characters and dialogue came into play, the luster faded for me.

I'm in the camp of liking the Pixar "silents" less than the talkies. I admire the no-dialogue achievements of the UP montage and the Wall-E first half. But I think those are easy to achieve with animation. Comparisons to live action on this score are not fair.

I think it's harder to achieve animation excellence with dialogue-driven stories or segments, and I do in fact prefer the 3 Gemini Cricket mentioned over UP or Wall-E. But there we go ranking children again. To say I prefer Finding Nemo over UP ignores that I prefer UP over just about any movie I've seen in the last couple of years.

Cadaverous Pallor 06-02-2009 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex (Post 285691)
I also wanted Kirk Douglas for Muntz. That seems to be who they animated. I would have accepted the slurring, after all Muntz must be 90+.

Yeah, he looked like Douglas to me too. I kept thinking "I know that voice" but the Douglas look threw me off....and when I looked it up I found out that Christopher Plummer is still alive! :eek:

Gemini Cricket 06-02-2009 07:48 PM

Stuff I loved:
Spoiler:

I loved the talking dog collars. "I love you temporarily" line had me in stitches. The malfunctioning collar had me rolling, too.

LOVED the beginning montage of him as a kid. So cute as a little boy. That is primo storytelling right there. Ten thumbs up.

Loved Russell. Great character. He was Asian and they didn't have to bring up his race to hammer some point in or something like that. He was Japanese... so what. I liked that. :)

I love that Pixar made a hero out of a 80 year old guy. That's brilliant. But... see below...


Stuff I didn't love:
Spoiler:

The director spent all this energy showing us a capable elderly man on an adventure and then takes it all away with the stereotypical fight between the two men. False teeth, cane, oh my back went out... you know, all that stuff. Meh.

Once they got to their destination, I started to lose interest in the story.

I liked the payoff in the book. Ellie was trying to tell him something from the grave, but as much as he missed her, wouldn't he have scoured that book from cover to cover at some point prior to the trip?

The reveal of the balloons at the beginning. I agree with iSm's other post.

I didn't think there was enough time spent flying in the house. I thought that would be neat seeing how they cope with being inside a house that is constantly shifting, swaying, etc.

I didn't love the constant Ellie-reminder moments. Yes, that's her picture again and again...

I wasn't blown away by the villain. Part of me was bothered that he was duped, the freaking bird really did exist. But yeah he murdered all those people. And I'm thinking not by himself so those dirty dogs at the Wilderness Meeting at the end were accomplices... maybe...

The Russell scene where he's being smeared across the windows of the zeppelin reminded me of Homer's butt being smeared across the Crystal Cathedral during an episode of the Simpsons...

I didn't care for Partially Cloudy. Clever idea, yes... but... I thought the payoff to the movie should have been the stork seeing how much joy he was giving to the parents of the animals he had to deliver. Yeah, they were dangerous and all but not to their loving parents who will without a doubt love them no matter what...

€uroMeinke 06-02-2009 11:11 PM

They had me at the Zeppelin

Morrigoon 06-03-2009 12:40 AM

Ack! I wanna read the spoilers so bad! Still haven't gotten to see it, so I'm resisting, but gah! The temptation!!!!!

Betty 06-03-2009 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morrigoon (Post 285826)
Ack! I wanna read the spoilers so bad! Still haven't gotten to see it, so I'm resisting, but gah! The temptation!!!!!

Me too! Me too!

lashbear 06-03-2009 07:25 AM

You don't need to read the spoilers, cos everyone on the net knows the secret already:

Darth Vader is really his father.

Betty 06-03-2009 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lashbear (Post 285833)
You don't need to read the spoilers, cos everyone on the net knows the secret already:

Darth Vader is really his father.

And the dog dies at the end.

Alex 06-03-2009 08:12 AM

Poor Dug.

Gemini Cricket 06-03-2009 10:22 AM

Spoiler:
"Point!"

Moonliner 06-03-2009 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Betty (Post 285837)
And the dog dies at the end.

And if it's anything to do with Disney, The dad dies early on.

Ghoulish Delight 06-03-2009 10:32 AM

Spoiler:
I was hiding under your porch...because I love you

Cadaverous Pallor 06-03-2009 10:37 AM

Before we saw it on Saturday night we stopped at WoD for some shopping. The CM who helped us asked what we were up to this evening, and we mentioned we were about to see Up. She said that they had clean sold out of Up merch, with Dug stuff going the fastest.

Prudence 06-03-2009 10:49 AM

I love that the canine speech patterns were very Japanese monster movie-esque. Very formal presentations.

Not Afraid 06-03-2009 11:22 AM

Spoiler:
Cone of SHAME!
you better believe that's going to be used on a regular basis on our household. It's also funny that I have always referred to that as looking like a Pixar lamp.

Eliza Hodgkins 1812 06-03-2009 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight (Post 285854)
Spoiler:
I was hiding under your porch...because I love you

That kind of dog loyalty love paints my face with a mighty grin.

Ghoulish Delight 06-03-2009 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eliza Hodgkins 1812 (Post 285925)
That kind of dog loyalty love paints my face with a mighty grin.

That reminds me, how's Erik doing?

Eliza Hodgkins 1812 06-03-2009 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight (Post 285931)
That reminds me, how's Erik doing?

Ah, GD. Bringing it with the complimentary sounding insults / insulting sounding compliments. Heh.

Eliza Hodgkins 1812 06-03-2009 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Not Afraid (Post 285872)
Spoiler:
Cone of SHAME!
you better believe that's going to be used on a regular basis on our household. It's also funny that I have always referred to that as looking like a Pixar lamp.

There's almost nothing more heartbreakingly funny than a cone dog. Cone of shame, indeed. They always make me think of the RCA logo gone horribly wrong, too. Have you ever had to put one on a cat? Do cats ever need them?

lashbear 06-03-2009 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eliza Hodgkins 1812 (Post 285941)
There's almost nothing more heartbreakingly funny than a cone dog. Cone of shame, indeed. They always make me think of the RCA logo gone horribly wrong, too. Have you ever had to put one on a cat? Do cats ever need them?

Does a cat need a Cone? I know a few that do ! :D



Oh, and just to even the score....


Nephythys 06-04-2009 07:27 AM

heehee-

Not Afraid 06-04-2009 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eliza Hodgkins 1812 (Post 285941)
There's almost nothing more heartbreakingly funny than a cone dog. Cone of shame, indeed. They always make me think of the RCA logo gone horribly wrong, too. Have you ever had to put one on a cat? Do cats ever need them?

Yes.



And look how happy they are!

flippyshark 06-04-2009 09:28 AM

Corn dog!? Did somebody say corn dog!?

Oh, CONE dog. Hmmm. (corn dog in a cone? Maybe...)

NA, that picture SO makes me want to "cone of shame" my own two felixes!

Not Afraid 06-04-2009 09:30 AM

Theere are certain disadvantages to having had experience with some of the guys at Pixar as artists. The entire movie, I was distracted by the image of the house on top of Paradise Falls.

It was very obvious to me that it was a piece done by Lou Romano. He was one of the artists in The Ancient Book of Sex and Science show we recently saw.

More art of his from UP on his blog.

Ghoulish Delight 06-04-2009 09:38 AM

It distracted me as well. It definitely has a hint of Mary Blair style to it and love it.

Gemini Cricket 06-04-2009 12:20 PM

I don't think I was distracted by it. But it reminded me of Mary Blair so I actually fell in love with the pic. :)

His house (pre-flight) also reminded me of the Disney short about the house in the city that eventually was moved to the country...

Ghoulish Delight 06-04-2009 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket (Post 286023)
I don't think I was distracted by it.

"Distracted" in the way I was, say, "distracted" by Marissa Tomei's naked nudity scenes in The Wrestler. A very welcome distracted.

Gemini Cricket 06-04-2009 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight (Post 286040)
"Distracted" in the way I was, say, "distracted" by Marissa Tomei's naked nudity scenes in The Wrestler. A very welcome distracted.

lol
I'll take your word for it.
:D

Alex 06-04-2009 12:58 PM

As opposed to her clothed nudity scene?

Gemini Cricket 06-04-2009 01:01 PM

I guess you could have clothed nudity if the clothes are made from Saran Wrap...

Kevy Baby 06-04-2009 01:25 PM

Every time I see this thread, the lyrics to Up Up and Away by the Fifth Dimension
Quote:

Would you like to ride in my beautiful balloon
Would you like to ride in my beautiful balloon
We could float among the stars together, you and I
For we can fly we can fly
Up, up and away
My beautiful, my beautiful balloon
The world's a nicer place in my beautiful balloon
It wears a nicer face in my beautiful balloon
We can sing a song and sail along the silver sky
For we can fly we can fly
Up, up and away
My beautiful, my beautiful balloon
Suspended under a twilight canopy
We'll search the clouds for a star to guide us
If by some chance you find yourself loving me
We'll find a cloud to hide us
We'll keep the moon beside us
Love is waiting there in my beautiful balloon
Way up in the air in my beautiful balloon
If you'll hold my hand we'll chase your dream across the sky
For we can fly we can fly
Up, up and away
My beautiful, my beautiful balloon
Balloon...
Up, up, and away.....

Ghoulish Delight 06-04-2009 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex (Post 286042)
As opposed to her clothed nudity scene?

When she looked that good, it deserves a double mention.


I should clarify, for the record, the painting of a house::Marissa Tomei's gorgeous bare body analogy can only be carried so far. It wasn't quite the same sort of distraction, beyond both being pleasant.

Capt Jack 06-04-2009 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight (Post 286040)
"Marissa Tomei's naked ...scenes in The Wrestler.

duely noted.
with my thanks
:snap: :snap:

Alex 06-04-2009 01:49 PM

If that is useful information you'll want to consider a double feature with Before the Devil Knows You're Dead. She's shown off in that as well.

It's the new trend in Hollywood. Turn 40 then start getting naked. I approve. Except for John Goodman.

JWBear 06-04-2009 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex (Post 286072)
It's the new trend in Hollywood. Turn 40 then start getting naked. I approve. Except for John Goodman.

Let me know when it's Hugh Jackman's or Eric Bana's turn. :D

Not Afraid 06-04-2009 03:41 PM

I'm over 40 and I get naked.

RStar 06-04-2009 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Not Afraid (Post 286103)
I'm over 40 and I get naked.

I'm over 50, and well, you know the rest....

Kevy Baby 06-04-2009 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt Jack (Post 286066)
duly noted.
with my thanks
:snap: :snap:

Come on over: you and I can make it a double feature
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex (Post 286072)
If that is useful information you'll want to consider a double feature with Before the Devil Knows You're Dead. She's shown off in that as well.


Disneyphile 06-05-2009 12:28 AM

Just finally saw it tonight, and had no idea what it was about. And, my father happened to come into town and asked to go with us, since he hadn't seen it either.

LSPE - Thanks for sharing your review. The film left a very similar impact on us. *hugs*

I'm still a bit choked up, but smiling.

Best. Pixar. Film. Ever. :)

BDBopper 06-05-2009 04:22 AM

Yesterday I trekked to the movies for the first time in half a year. I just had to see this movie. Up was wonderful! a true delight! I laughed, I cried, I gasped, and I applauded after it was over. I don't think I have ever cried during a Pixar movie but I did watching Up. The story was so touching at times. The short Partly Cloudy" was charming as well.

For a Pixar movie didn't it seem a little strange how there was one main musical theme throughout and it rarely changed? I still have it playing in my head. Very nice.


flippyshark 06-05-2009 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BDBopper (Post 286170)
I laughed, I cried, I gasped, and I applauded after it was over. I don't think I have ever cried during a Pixar movie but I did watching Up.

Are you kidding? I cried at Toy Story, Toy Story 2, Monsters Inc, Cars, Wall-E, certainly UP. I guess I'm just a major sap.

lashbear 06-05-2009 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Not Afraid (Post 286103)
I'm over 40 and I get naked.

I'm over 40 and I never get naked in front of people.
Never.:rolleyes:
:blush:


Oh, and to keep this relevent, we're seeing UP today.

LSPoorEeyorick 06-05-2009 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flippyshark (Post 286174)
Are you kidding? I cried at Toy Story, Toy Story 2, Monsters Inc, Cars, Wall-E, certainly UP. I guess I'm just a major sap.

If so, we're in the sap club together. Plus I cried at Nemo.

Strangler Lewis 06-05-2009 09:30 AM

Of the above, I'd say that Jesse's story in "Toy Story 2" got me the most.

I did, however, cry at "Cars" about the money I spent on it.

BDBopper 06-05-2009 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flippyshark (Post 286174)
Are you kidding? I cried at Toy Story, Toy Story 2, Monsters Inc, Cars, Wall-E, certainly UP. I guess I'm just a major sap.

Well maybe I did too I just don't remember doing it. I will admit to being an emotional person so I probably did and just can't remember it.

Alex 06-05-2009 10:42 AM

Pixar has never made me cry, but that doesn't mean I haven't been moved.

A list of no particular relevance:

The last time I cried at a movie: Summer 1982
The last time I cried at a TV show: February 28, 1983
The last time I cried, sincerely: October 1987
The last time I cried, on purpose, as a form of manipulation: May 1993
The last time my lacrimal glands proved they do function: Yesterday when walking into a strong wind made my eyes water.

Strangler Lewis 06-05-2009 11:01 AM

The last TV show I misted up over was a 1980 episode of The Rockford Files.

Gn2Dlnd 06-05-2009 11:29 AM

M*A*S*H* finale, Alex? What were you, like 12? What happened? Where's that sentimental 12 year old? WHO DID THIS TO YOU?

Alex 06-05-2009 11:33 AM

In February 1983 I would have been 8.

And it wasn't so much the content of the show as that it was a huge event in my house (my step dad was a huge MASH fan so I'd watched it a lot).

I don't know what hardened my soul. It just happened, kind of like one day I just stopped brawling (up until the seventh grade I was probably in a fist fight every other day then it just stopped cold).

Late onset aspergers probably.

LSPoorEeyorick 06-05-2009 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex (Post 286220)
Pixar has never made me cry, but that doesn't mean I haven't been moved.

A list of no particular relevance:

The last time I cried at a movie: Summer 1982
The last time I cried at a TV show: February 28, 1983
The last time I cried, sincerely: October 1987
The last time I cried, on purpose, as a form of manipulation: May 1993
The last time my lacrimal glands proved they do function: Yesterday when walking into a strong wind made my eyes water.

That's pretty impressive, Alex. When compared with my list:

The last time I cried at a movie: last Friday at Up
The last time I cried at a TV show: the recent Office season finale
The list time I cried, sincerely: I actually still have tears on my face right this moment, thank you Amanda Palmer for that.
The last time I cried, on purpose, as a form of manipulation: last Friday on a phone call with Budget Rental, though in my defense, I really was upset.

Chernabog 06-05-2009 12:40 PM

Up was a really good movie, in general. The animation was spectacular (Pixar always one-ups itself with each movie on that point). And I can't wait to see it on Blu-ray in 2D... 3D seems to make things murky and dark color-wise, which I don't like. It simply does not add anything to the film.

Up was not the life-changing experience for me that some are making it out to be. I thought the first half of the film was wonderful (especially the scenes with Ellie), and I got teary-eyed at the end of that sequence. The balloon take-off and landing (as well as the scene of him sitting in his home next to the falls) were great. The interior of the blimp was wonderful, as was the sequence where Carl tries to get onto the blimp in mid-air.

However, the story totally fell apart in the end. The villain and his whole plotline were completely stupid. The dog (or dogs, as it were) was a one-trick pony. I thought the adventure would be, well, more of an adventure once they got to Venezuela. It just fell flat as to what they were trying to accomplish.

So I think I would give it an 8 out of 10. Good, but not Pixar's best (my favorite is still The Incredibles)

Gemini Cricket 06-05-2009 12:51 PM

I cry at movies. I admit that. I cry at Pixar movies.

Monsters Inc - the ending, one word "Kitty!" Tears.
The Incredibles - The Elastagirl getting shot down scene, the following "I'm so proud of you" to Dash scene and apology to Violet scene.
Toy Story 2 - the scene with the Sarah McLachlan song over it. Total tears.
Finding Nemo - Dory's "I'm home" scene.
Ratatouille - Ego's flashback scene and his monologue at the end.
Wall-E - The beginning gets me. The "Put on Your Sunday Clothes" song over the devastated city scenes just blows me away every time. Tears.
Up -
Spoiler:
The whole beginning and the scene where he and Ellie find out they can't have kids...


But I didn't cry during Cars (if Lightning McQueen was likable [imho] then I might have cried at his heroic deed at the end), TS1, Bug's Life...

I think the 3 movies that made me cry the most are The Fighting Sullivans, Brokeback and Milk. I had to call my bff Julie after Milk. I was sobbing trying to drive home from the Sherman Oaks Galleria. She's my rock.
:D

Cadaverous Pallor 06-05-2009 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex (Post 286220)
The last time I cried at a movie: Summer 1982

ET? I'm too lazy to check if that was summer or not.

Count me in with the "cried at some point during nearly all Pixar films" crowd.

Gemini Cricket 06-05-2009 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor (Post 286235)
ET?

That was my guess as well.
I must say I used to cry during ET. Now... not a single tear. Don't know why...

Alex 06-05-2009 01:06 PM

Yes, ET. Not only do I not cry now, I don't think it is a very good movie.

Gemini Cricket 06-05-2009 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex (Post 286243)
Yes, ET. Not only do I not cry now, I don't think it is a very good movie.

I don't either. But it is funny, I did really love that film when I was like 11.

mousepod 06-05-2009 01:22 PM

I laughed out loud at the "dead" ET the first time I saw it.

(I wasn't laughing because I'm cold and heartless - it's just that the effect was so fake that it took me right out of the movie.)

Gemini Cricket 06-05-2009 01:26 PM

The effect? The crew throwing baby powder on a rubber Muppet? That effect?

:D

Chernabog 06-05-2009 01:30 PM

I cried, like everyone, in Bambi -- even as an adult I saw it for the first time in years and thought -- OMG this scene is much longer than I remembered and pretty damn harsh.

And of course in Dumbo in the baby mine sequence. I like the amazon review of it, which said:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Amazon
If you don't mist up during the "Baby Mine" scene, you may be legally pronounced dead.


Snowflake 06-05-2009 01:32 PM

Okay, I wept at ET in 1982. I cannot watch it now.

I've cried in most of the Pixar movies, I'm with GC, "Kitty!" gets me every time.

Of course, I'm such a sucker, I will cry in about any movie. I used to weep buckets as a kid watching Wizard of Oz, as well. I still weep buckets watching The Three Lives of Thomasina.

Kevy Baby 06-05-2009 01:38 PM

I cry any time John Wayne gets killed in a movie

Ghoulish Delight 06-05-2009 01:47 PM

I don't know why, but I'm a total movie crier. I won't even bother listing the movies I've cried at, I'd surely surpass the character limit on a post.

Alex 06-05-2009 01:54 PM

Just to be clear, I'm not saying I resist crying or am unmoved by movies. Crying just doesn't seem to be part of my biological response to strong emotional stimuli.

I can be just as manipulated by movies as the next person. It just manifests as intense pressure in my chest, difficulty swallowing, etc.

Prudence 06-05-2009 01:57 PM

I'll cry at anything. When I was much younger, my usual trigger was "Highway to Heaven" episodes. (Hey - teevee viewing was strictly monitored by the 'rents and there wasn't a lot that we were allowed to watch.) Mostly it's just a mild case of moist eyelids, but because the Ellie sequence hit on emotions I was already having trouble controlling, I bawled.

LSPoorEeyorick 06-05-2009 02:21 PM

MY teevee trigger as a kids was, by far, The Wonder Years. I remember outright sobbing that last episode.

Alex 06-05-2009 02:36 PM

The Wonder Years somehow (and I don't remember how) triggered the first ever admission by a girl that she liked me. That next summer she was the first non-family girl I got to see naked.

Thank you Fred Savage.

Kevy Baby 06-05-2009 03:17 PM

Up, up and away
In my beautiful, my beautiful balloooooon...

Morrigoon 06-05-2009 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex (Post 286268)
The Wonder Years somehow (and I don't remember how) triggered the first ever admission by a girl that she liked me. That next summer she was the first non-family girl I got to see naked.

Thank you Fred Savage.

Haha, Fred Savage got Alex laid. Awesome.

lashbear 06-06-2009 12:04 AM

Not a movie, but I have to add that everytime I hear when you wish upon a star during DL fireworks I lose it. You all know. You were there. :blush:

'Kitty' gets me too.
Still haven't seen Up - lunch with Dad took longer than expected. Tomorrow. I'm bringing tissues.

Morrigoon 06-06-2009 12:50 AM

Finally saw it :)

flippyshark 06-06-2009 06:55 AM

Lashbear - If you don't get a chance to see UP, I can send you a copy of this . I'm sure it will be just as good!

innerSpaceman 06-06-2009 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lashbear (Post 286309)
Not a movie, but I have to add that everytime I hear when you wish upon a star during DL fireworks I lose it.

I cried like a baby the first time I saw Remember on May 5, 2005 when they cut to Walt during miraculously flying Tinkerbell.



During UP, I misted at a few things, but didn't outright cry until ...
Spoiler:
Carl gave Russell Ellie's sodapop pin as his merit badge


Lost it.

RStar 06-06-2009 12:24 PM

I'm seeing it today at 3:10 at DtD!! :D

Morrigoon 06-06-2009 12:43 PM

I'm a total crier. Cried like 3 times during Up. Also cried earlier in the day watching Wild Weddings (cried at the proposals they showed).

lashbear 06-06-2009 05:40 PM

OK, most of you know this from my tweet, but...

For Fvcks Sake..... Up is not playing in Aus until SEPTEMBER 3 !!!!!! WTF is up with the global movie industry?!?!?!?! :mad: :mad::mad::mad:

€uroMeinke 06-06-2009 05:43 PM

Obviously the film needs to be remastered for your hemisphere otherwise it would look like you were watching Down

Alex 06-06-2009 06:06 PM

I believe the primary reason for it is the difficulty of waging a global marketing campaign. Looking at the release schedule it looks like maybe they spread traditionally spread things out to the English speaking markets in 4 to 6 week gaps. At least this time you're ahead of UK in line (for Wall-E they got it a month earlier, this time they wait until October).

Bit of if it helps, Japan doesn't get it until December.

lashbear 06-06-2009 08:57 PM

Heavens to Betsy !! Still, I suppose the associated interviews with voice talent etc can't happen all over the globe at the same time, so they need to allow for the travel time for the talent, I guess. That and the cost of all the TV ads etc?

Andrew 06-06-2009 11:43 PM

We saw it tonight.

Overall it's probably my least favorite Pixar, but that's still a pretty high bar.

innerSpaceman 06-07-2009 07:22 AM

I didn't like it nearly as much the 2nd time. And I'm glad I didn't bother with 3-D the first time. Some nice shots, especially during the house-flying sequence. But it made the film significantly darker. Overall, better in 2-D.

Cadaverous Pallor 06-07-2009 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew (Post 286470)
We saw it tonight.

Overall it's probably my least favorite Pixar, but that's still a pretty high bar.

You like it less than A Bug's Life?

innerSpaceman 06-07-2009 10:15 AM

Heheh, Bug's Life is one of Isaac's faves. It's my absolute least favorite Pixar. I've promised to watch again, but my Netflix queue is already a mile long and not moving.

I'm also supposed to give Emperor's New Groove another shot.



On the current Pixar, to me at least, so much depends on the emotional hit that is never the same after the first time. Many films are like this ... and those that have bountiful other pleasures stand the test of my time. I don't think UP will do that. Aside from the emotional wallop it packed the first time, it's a rather enjoyable trifle. IMO.


BUT, I like it enought to buy it. So I'll be seeing it again. The same could not be said of Cars. Or Bugs Life. Or Toy Story II.



Oh, unlike the theater where we first saw UP, last night's treated us to a one-year-out teaser for Toy Story 3.


And speaking of 3, the best part of the 3-D on UP was the completely different PIXAR opening logo that was not in the 2-D at all.

RStar 06-07-2009 10:35 AM

I liked it a lot. There were some very touching moments, but none strong enough to make me cry. Except for the part where John Ratzenburger's voice pulled me out of the movie because it was so darn recognizeable. I'm just glad they put it in early......

I did notice that the 3D made it darker, but the effects were worth it for me.

I'll list the Pixar films in my order of preference:

1) Toy Story

2) Monsters, INC.

3) Toy Story 2

4) Ratatouille

5) UP

6) WALL-E

7) Cars

8) The Incredibles

9) Finding Nemo

10) Bug's Life

This is purely my preference and has nothing to do with the quality of the film. Oh, and we have to wait a year before Toy Story 3 comes out.

Tref 06-07-2009 12:49 PM

I thought Up was wonderful. The first fifteen minutes or so, were beautiful. I couldn't help but get weepy. And unlike, Wall-E the story didn't fall apart during the last third of the movie. I still think Toy Story II is the best Pixar film. Up may be third (after The Incredibles) but I will have to wait until I see it again.

innerSpaceman 06-07-2009 03:37 PM

Wow, I think Toy Story is the absolute WORST Pixar film. It screams poorly conceived sequel from beginning to end.

Mileage varies, wow.

scaeagles 06-07-2009 03:42 PM

What a wonderful film! I throughly enjoyed it. Near the top of the Pixar list in terms of which ones I love.

Love Toy Story I and II. Bottom of the Pixar barrel is Bugs Life, Wall-E, and Cars, IMO.

Stan4dSteph 06-07-2009 06:17 PM

I saw it today. I enjoyed it.

bewitched 06-07-2009 08:10 PM

We saw it last week. Loved it. It reminded me greatly of Wall-E: how we make our way through the world (and life) when our purpose (or what we believe to be our purpose) for existing is gone.

Loved Dug. Oddly one of the things I love most about him wasn't even in the movie...how he spells his name. Dug. Pure gold. :D

Our favorite line?

Russell: "Kevin's a girl???"

innerSpaceman 06-07-2009 08:48 PM

Yeah, if i ever have another dog, I want to name him Dug. Coolest film character name that's not in the film in it's cool form.



oh, and for the record, I mean Toy Story 2 up above where I referered to craptcular sequel-dom. I love me some original Toy Story. The first and still one of my very favorites.

lindyhop 06-07-2009 08:53 PM

I saw Up today. Absolutely wonderful. And it reminded me why I rarely go to movies: Pixar animation does character and emotion so well I don't want to see it in some mediocre form.

JWBear 06-09-2009 09:58 AM

We saw it on Sunday. Loved it! What an emotional rollercoaster!

Moonliner 06-09-2009 10:38 AM

I haven't see it yet. But I'm glad to see John Ratzenberger has a role. I think the only really good Pixar movies are the ones that have John Ratzenberger in them.

Cadaverous Pallor 06-09-2009 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moonliner (Post 286689)
I haven't see it yet. But I'm glad to see John Ratzenberger has a role. I think the only really good Pixar movies are the ones that have John Ratzenberger in them.

Ummm....

wolfy999 06-13-2009 06:40 PM

Just saw this movie....excellent flick! Cried only once, but was expecting that considering what everyone has said.

RStar 06-14-2009 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moonliner (Post 286689)
I haven't see it yet. But I'm glad to see John Ratzenberger has a role. I think the only really good Pixar movies are the ones that have John Ratzenberger in them.

So you like them all with the exception of the shorts and Ratatouille?

Alex 06-14-2009 02:50 PM

Ratzenberger was in Ratatouille.

Moonliner 06-15-2009 04:04 AM

And shorts don't count as movies.

Melonballer 06-15-2009 04:09 AM

I saw Up a couple days ago and I loved it. Not as much as some, like Wall E, but still a great film. Partly Cloudy was ok, but probably one of my least favorite Pixar Shorts.

Prudence 06-15-2009 09:30 AM

Saw it again this weekend in 3D.

Unlike most here, I felt it played well the second time. Sure, it didn't have the same emotional impact as it did the first time, but the second time around some things that bugged me the first time (like the big fight scene) didn't bug me this time.

Also caught some things I hadn't noticed the first time - like the dog with an Ace up his collar...

Loved looking at all the detail in background, the wistful look of the window washer, the textures of the ties, Carl's developing stubble....it's a great movie. Still probably my favorite Pixar.

Cadaverous Pallor 06-15-2009 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prudence (Post 287298)
Saw it again this weekend in 3D.

Do you think the 3D added a lot? Prefer it either way?

Prudence 06-15-2009 10:09 AM

Honestly, beyond the first couple scenes I didn't really notice the 3D, so I'm not sure I even have a preference. Probably prefer the 3D because the cool moments are pretty cool.

Alex 06-15-2009 10:29 AM

My preference would be 2D and I haven't seen it that way. The new glasses they had (at least at my theater) were not very comfortable since they had temples that actually wrapped around my ears but weren't quite "one size fits all." If I had been wearing glasses I don't know that I could have worn the 3D glasses at all.

Fortunately the brightness seemed reasonably well compensated for the glasses but still a bit dimmer than I'd prefer (and I'd imagine that a lot of theaters, with how they try to skimp on bulbs probably are running it way too dark).

innerSpaceman 06-15-2009 10:38 AM

I hated the new glasses.

I think i said so before, but the 3-D enhanced only the initial house-flying scenes, imo. And darkened the picture significantly ... which I noticed by taking the glasses on and off a lot during the film, because they bugged me.


2-D gets the nod from me.


ok, with a second viewing and a little time under my wing, the obligatory Pixar Ranking:

#1 - The Incredibles

2. - Toy Story

3. - Finding Nemo

4. - Ratatouille

5. - Monsters, Inc.

6. - UP

7. - Wall-E

BIG, BIG DROP OFF ....

8. - Cars

9. - Toy Story 2

10. - A Bugs Life

Cadaverous Pallor 06-15-2009 10:58 AM

The glasses fit me perfectly....but most glasses don't fit me.

wolfy999 06-15-2009 11:05 AM

I wear glasses and had no problem with the 3D ones fitting over nicely.

innerSpaceman 06-15-2009 11:50 AM

My companion who wore glasses enjoyed that the 3-D glasses fit comfortablyl over her real glasses.

I, who do not wear glasses, found them really uncomfortable.

Alex 06-15-2009 12:33 PM

For me, the temples were very tight against my head and the bridge was very high on my nose. Not much room for glasses in there. But yeah, I imagine most women and men with heads smaller than mine would have been fine.

I just think that there' no need for a deeply curved temple. It isn't like they need to stay on through vigorous activity.

flippyshark 06-15-2009 04:03 PM

I personally don't see much point to 3-D UNLESS it is used for gratuitous "cheap 3D tricks." I've been to several Disney 3D releases now, and the novelty wears away quickly. The best I can say is that most of teh time, I don't care that it's there, and occasionally, I'm annoyed by it.

On the other hand, I was tickled by My Bloody Valentine, because it was such a shameless in-your-face spookhouse.

I've heard several filmmakers, like Peter Jackson and James Cameron, insist that 3D simply IS the future of motion picture exhibition, btu I'd honestly be very surprised if that turns out to be the case.

UP was just lovely in 2D.

innerSpaceman 06-15-2009 04:10 PM

3-D will only become the defacto way to view movies if the glasses aren't needed.

Are those two bozos kidding? Widespread acceptance of viewing paraphenalia on your head for everything you watch. Um, yeah, sure.

Strangler Lewis 06-15-2009 04:48 PM

You can already see marvelous entertainment in 3D without glasses.

It's called . . . [cue John Gielgud/Linda Hunt voice]

theatre.

flippyshark 06-15-2009 05:11 PM

Now if more theater would stoop to gratuitous 3-D nudity and violence. Mmmm ...

Alex 06-15-2009 05:43 PM

Jeffrey Katzenberg is also convinced that 3D will one day be the theatrical standard.

Avatar will probably be the big threshhold event. First totally big budget mass market live action title.

LSPoorEeyorick 06-15-2009 06:43 PM

#1 - Finding Nemo
#2 - Wall-E
#3 - Up
#4 - Toy Story 2
#5 - Toy Story
#6 - Monsters, Inc.
#7 - The Incredibles
#8 - Ratatouille
#9 - Cars
#10 - A Bug's Life

But honestly, there is no huge drop-off. I like all of them. The race for #1 is pretty tight between my top 5. And the race is still pretty tight right after it.

Moonliner 06-15-2009 07:27 PM

#1 - The Incredibles
#2 - Toy Story
#3 - Toy Story 2
#4 - Wall-E

-- ISM's cliff of despair ----

#5 - Cars
#6 - Ratatouille
#7 - Finding Nemo
#8 - Monsters, Inc.
#9 - A Bug's Life

I have not seen "Up" yet.

Strangler Lewis 06-15-2009 07:30 PM

My top ten on the subject.

1. Great movies.
2. Good movies.
3. Mediocre movies.
4. Bad movies.
5. Terrible movies.
6. Ed Wood movies.

HUGE DROP-OFF

7. Broken jar in the ass movies.

HUGE DROP-OFF

8. Broken jar in the ass.

HUGE DROP-OFF

9. Waterboarding.

HUGER DROP-OFF

10. "Cars"

Alex 06-15-2009 07:43 PM

I would put #9 above #8. At least #9 gets you sympathy from Keith Olbermann.

Gemini Cricket 06-15-2009 07:46 PM

I don't know if I made a list before, but here's the latest one. It could change tomorrow.
:)

1. Finding Nemo
2. The Incredibles
3. Ratatouille
4. Wall-E
5. Up
6. Monsters Inc.
7. Toy Story 2
8. Toy Story
9. A Bug's Life
10. Cars

Kevy Baby 06-15-2009 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flippyshark (Post 287378)
I've heard several filmmakers, like Peter Jackson and James Cameron, insist that 3D simply IS the future of motion picture exhibition, but I'd honestly be very surprised if that turns out to be the case.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex (Post 287396)
Jeffrey Katzenberg is also convinced that 3D will one day be the theatrical standard.

I just don't see 3D being a viable film medium. It is just something the studios are trying to convince us we need to get our butts in the theatres again.

Alex 06-15-2009 09:30 PM

Maybe so, but it isn't a cheap gimmick. Tens of millions of dollars are being spent (much of it subsidized by the studios) to get the projectors into theaters.

That said, with digital technology elimination vibration blur (on old analog cameras it was impossible to keep the two cameras perfectly in synch) completely the only problem I have with it is the dimness if the theater isn't keeping the lumens at the right level (that is one reason they need the new projectors, they need to be able to project much brighter than traditional ones) and the glasses.

Katzenberg mentioned one thing at the presentation I went to where a top end sunglass designer had made a prototype of regular sunglasses with the appropriate left right lens polarization to do double duty for 3D movies. I'd be cool with that (especially if I'm going to have to see ten 3D movies a year for reviewing).

Moonliner 06-16-2009 06:19 AM

I'll give Avatar a chance, but based on my experiences so far with movies like Bolt I'll stick with 2D.


What about Imax? Do you all go out of your way to see movies on Imax?

flippyshark 06-16-2009 07:27 AM

I'll go to an Imax if it's nearby and showing something interesting. However, I want nothing to do with the recent trend of theFake IMAX experience.

Stan4dSteph 06-16-2009 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moonliner (Post 287427)
What about Imax? Do you all go out of your way to see movies on Imax?

I saw U23D on Imax and it was freaking amazing.

Cadaverous Pallor 06-16-2009 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flippyshark (Post 287433)
I'll go to an Imax if it's nearby and showing something interesting. However, I want nothing to do with the recent trend of theFake IMAX experience.

We were suckered in by this for Dark Knight at the GardenWalk Anaheim. NOT WORTH IT at all.

Alex 06-16-2009 07:58 AM

I generally avoid IMAX for feature length movies. I don't sit in the front row of movie theaters and don't particularly like feeling like I am even in the last row of an IMAX theater.

But I also prefer my TVs farther away from my living room seating than the various home theater guides will tell you is the desired size/distance ratio.

Though there is the fact that the majority of new multiplex IMAX theaters aren't actually true IMAX experiences (more just slightly enlarged regular screens).

mousepod 06-16-2009 08:45 AM

Wow. I didn't know anything about this Fake IMAX trend. Is there a list somewhere of the "real" IMAX screens?

Alex 06-16-2009 09:02 AM

Information on the situation in this article.

A map showing all IMAX theaters in the US and where they fit in the spectrum of IMAX screens here (the link is in UPDATE to the article I linked above). According to it, the GardenWalk IMAX screen is one of the bad ones.

innerSpaceman 06-16-2009 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex (Post 287442)
and where they fit in the spectrum of IMAX screens here

Haha, another Alex unintended pun. The only real non-Museum IMAX screen in Southern California that I'm aware of is at the Irvine SPECTRUM. TeeHee.

I'll check that link, but I think the one at Universal CityWalk may be "real" as well, but I hate that theater too much to ever find out.


I've gone down to Irvine a couple of times to see things in IMAX. Nice, but not necessarily worth the drive. I've never seen one of those films where only certain segments are in IMAX. That seems like it would be rather disconcerting.


(Though there was a movie I loved, Brainstorm, that had "mind-reading" segments in a wider aspect ratio - to good effect.)


I've been fooled by those claims of IMAX that are really just larger-than-average theater screens. Bah.

Unfortunately, there's only 3 large theater screens left in L.A. But each of those is bigger than your typical multiplex FauxMax screen.

Ghoulish Delight 06-16-2009 09:46 AM

Worse than a film with only certain segments in IMAX are films with only certain segments in 3D (Superman). That was obnoxious, having to keep an eye out for when to put on and take off the 3D glasses.

Prudence 06-16-2009 12:33 PM

Anyone else see that 1961 3D version of The Mask? Whenever I put on 3D glasses I hear that voice in my head: "Put the mask on now!"

innerSpaceman 06-16-2009 02:35 PM

I call shenanigans on that IMAX locator. According to it, the only authentic IMAX screens in Southern California are at the California Science Center in downtown L.A. (check), the Irvine Spectrum in Irvine (check), and the Bridge in West L.A. (bogus!!!)

I've been to all of these theaters, and the Bridge is a real IMAX if my dog can talk. It's a smaller screen than either the Village, the Chinese or the Dome (the remaining big screen theaters), and it's way smaller than the IMAX at either the Spectrum or the Science Center.

Yet the site claims the Bridge screen is only 4 feet less wide and 8 feet less tall than the Spectrum's (and 1 foot less wide, 2 feet less tall than the Science Center's).

My experience says otherwise.

Of course, the site says both the Spectrum and the Bridge opened the same year, in 2002, and I was under the distinct impression the Spectrum was around loooong before the Bridge. Anyone in the OC know when the Spectrum was built?

Alex 06-16-2009 02:52 PM

According to the Spectrum page at Wikipedia, phase 1 started in 1995 and phase 3 completed in 2002. No idea what phase the IMAX theater was in. The IMAX site certainly doesn't tell you.

Can't comment on how accurate the list is, that just the only one I can find.

Another thing to know about IMAX screenings is that just because your theater is showing it on an IMAX screen doesn't mean it is an IMAX movie. My theater has an almost full size screen but most of the movies shown on it aren't listed as IMAX but rather LF for large format. This means their just projecting a normal 35mm movie to fill a larger screen. The picture isn't better, just bigger (and that means, to a certain degree, worse).

innerSpaceman 06-16-2009 03:08 PM

The one movie I saw at the Bridge "IMAX" was certainly not an IMAX movie. Worse, it was a Panavision aspect ratio film, which does not take advantage of the height of an IMAX screen nearly as much as a more common Widescreen aspect ratio film would. So, I was disappointed.

And being very family with the 3 (at that time, 4) big screen theaters in L.A., I called shenanigans on an "IMAX" screen being smaller than any of these ... and I tried to base that estimate on the actual screen size rather than the relatively narrow size of the projected image.



In any event, I recommend not falling for gimmicks like IMAX or 3-D. Just see the movie. If you can make it to The Village or The Dome or The Chinese, do that. But gimmicks are lame.

Alex 06-16-2009 03:23 PM

Like domes. Dome screens are (and I mean this honestly though it is just my opinion) lame.

innerSpaceman 06-16-2009 03:35 PM

I guess Domes were considered a gimmick in their day. As was the widescreen format in general.

In the past, oh, 20 years or so, most movies have reverted to a more naturalistic aspect ratio of 1.85:1. This more closely imitates a normal range of vision.

Panavision films in 2.35:1 are much less common today. But since they represent a field of vision that is beyond natural, I think it's only fitting they be projected on screens having a wrap-around effect. I think the curved screens of Domes are perfect for really wide films, and projecting them on flat screens does not have the intended effect.


All a matter of preference. I used to love sitting in the first row of the Cinerama Dome (or the old Egyptian before AFI converted it) so that the film would literally wrap behind my head and fill my entire field of vision ... even if I glanced sideways.

Moonliner 06-19-2009 08:02 AM

Go ahead. I dare you not to tear up at this one....

Quote:

HUNTINGTON BEACH – Colby Curtin, a 10-year-old with a rare form of cancer, was staying alive for one thing – a movie.

From the minute Colby saw the previews to the Disney-Pixar movie Up, she was desperate to see it. Colby had been diagnosed with vascular cancer about three years ago, said her mother, Lisa Curtin, and at the beginning of this month it became apparent that she would die soon and was too ill to be moved to a theater to see the film.

Alex 06-19-2009 08:40 AM

Well, I love a challenge:

Viewing Pixar Movie Kills 10-Year-Old Girl
Only thing keeping girl alive was unfulfilled desire to see movie, so why did parents let girl see movie? They should have scheduled the screening for 2084.


Though seriously, it is a very nice story.

Moonliner 06-19-2009 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex (Post 287833)

Viewing Pixar Movie Kills 10-Year-Old Girl

The mark of a good review is that it does not spoil the ending.

Alex 06-19-2009 10:24 AM

You know what, I misread your post (which makes my response nonsensical).

Where you said "I dare you not to tear up at this one...." I read "I dare you to tear up this one..." In other words I thought you essentially said "I bet you can't crap on this story."

That's the challenge I was taking up.

Gn2Dlnd 06-19-2009 12:03 PM

Came to this thread to post this very link. DAMN YOU PIXAR!! Made me cry in my own store.

Moonliner 06-19-2009 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex (Post 287843)
You know what, I misread your post (which makes my response nonsensical).

Where you said "I dare you not to tear up at this one...." I read "I dare you to tear up this one..." In other words I thought you essentially said "I bet you can't crap on this story."

That's the challenge I was taking up.

So did you tear up (even just a bit) or not?

LSPoorEeyorick 06-19-2009 12:15 PM

Can I put money on that? I'm not frequently a betting woman, but...

Alex does not cry.

Alex 06-19-2009 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moonliner (Post 287864)
So did you tear up (even just a bit) or not?

No, which is not to say I wasn't moved by the story. But as discussed recently in another thread, tears just don't seem to be part of my resonse to emotional moments.

Cadaverous Pallor 06-19-2009 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moonliner (Post 287864)
So did you tear up (even just a bit) or not?

He didn't tear up, but he tore the story up. ;)

RStar 06-19-2009 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman (Post 287487)
The one movie I saw at the Bridge "IMAX" was certainly not an IMAX movie. Worse, it was a Panavision aspect ratio film, which does not take advantage of the height of an IMAX screen nearly as much as a more common Widescreen aspect ratio film would. So, I was disappointed.

And being very family with the 3 (at that time, 4) big screen theaters in L.A., I called shenanigans on an "IMAX" screen being smaller than any of these ... and I tried to base that estimate on the actual screen size rather than the relatively narrow size of the projected image.



In any event, I recommend not falling for gimmicks like IMAX or 3-D. Just see the movie. If you can make it to The Village or The Dome or The Chinese, do that. But gimmicks are lame.

Is it me, or are the IMAX screens at the Anaheim Garden Walk only slightly larger than a standard screen? They sure looked smaller than the ones in Irvine.

Cadaverous Pallor 06-20-2009 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RStar (Post 287910)
Is it me, or are the IMAX screens at the Anaheim Garden Walk only slightly larger than a standard screen? They sure looked smaller than the ones in Irvine.

Click the link above regarding fake IMAX.

RStar 06-20-2009 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor (Post 287935)
Click the link above regarding fake IMAX.

I thought so. I saw Dark Knight on it also, and felt it was so not worth it that I never went back again.

I missed those few notes on the thread, BTW. Sorry for the repeat, and thanks for the info and link!

€uroMeinke 06-28-2009 12:00 AM

Lou Romano, Pixar artist, has a great series of his artwork used for Up on his blog - great images and a great way to revisit the story

Not Afraid 06-28-2009 08:47 AM

I <3 Lou Romano!

innerSpaceman 06-28-2009 09:12 AM

Yeah, that was fun and awesome. Thanks.


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