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Snowflake 07-29-2009 12:05 PM

Vintage Liqueurs?
 
I came across a reference to what is probably a no longer produced liqueur "Flora di Alpina" - I've done nothing more than a fast google search and come up empty (no surprise)

Anyone know of a database or reference source on vintage liqueurs?

mousepod 07-29-2009 12:11 PM

From Happy Hour Spirit and Liqueur Dictionary

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Fior D'Alpe , Flora Alpina (23 to 28% alc./vol.)
Is a spice and herb flavored liqueur. It is made with alpine flowers, edelweiss, herbs, spices, sugar and alcohol. It is over sweetened so that the excess sugar readily forms crystals in the bottle. It is red, orange or yellow and is produced in Italy and other european countries. Best enjoyed straight up, on the rocks and in cocktails. Blends well with fruit juices, dairy products, club soda, vodka, dry gin, brandy and rum.

katiesue 07-29-2009 12:20 PM

My parents hosted a coctail party somewhere around 1972. They didn't really drink so I've got a cubboard of liqueur that's either unopened or has a shot or two missing. Does that count as vintage?

Snowflake 07-29-2009 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mousepod (Post 293624)

VMPM

Who needs google when you have LoT?

Chernabog 07-29-2009 01:16 PM

Fior D'Alpe , Flora Alpina (23 to 28% alc./vol.)
Is a spice and herb flavored liqueur. It is made with alpine flowers, edelweiss, herbs, spices, sugar and alcohol.

Sounds yummy! And now I have Edelweiss from Sound of Music stuck in my head. :p

Snowflake 07-29-2009 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Chernabog (Post 293632)
Fior D'Alpe , Flora Alpina (23 to 28% alc./vol.)
Is a spice and herb flavored liqueur. It is made with alpine flowers, edelweiss, herbs, spices, sugar and alcohol.

Sounds yummy! And now I have Edelweiss from Sound of Music stuck in my head. :p

Well, I am trying to find some, so far a wine shop in Australia has a mini bottle. (Hello Lashpair?)

Our local superior wine & spirits shop (D&M Liquors since 1933) has no clue, carries something that sounds similar from Austria.

The original distiller is still in business, but all I can find is Sambuca. Isolabella (they of great advertising posters circa 1910).

Are you wondering why? Well, I just learned it was Valentino's favorite liqueur, must try it now. :blush:

Must keep looking, I'm dying to taste it.

Moonliner 07-29-2009 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Snowflake (Post 293637)

Are you wondering why? Well, I just learned it was Valentino's favorite liqueur, must try it now. :blush:

Must keep looking, I'm dying to taste it.

That sound fun. I'd love to do the same thing with one of my all time favorites. Does anyone know where I could find some of that blue stuff Aunt Beru makes for Luke?

Ghoulish Delight 07-29-2009 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Moonliner (Post 293642)
That sound fun. I'd love to do the same thing with one of my all time favorites. Does anyone know where I could find some of that blue stuff Aunt Beru makes for Luke?

It's above the washing machine, labeled "Windex". Give it a try.

Not Afraid 07-29-2009 03:54 PM

It sounds like a version of a "Kräuterlikör". I'll do some poking around and see if I can find it under a different name. Chris actually might be the best reference with this. He and his family are the ones that introduced me to all of these strange Swiss and German liquors.

Snowflake 07-29-2009 04:20 PM

Thanks NA. Apparently it was/is produced in Northern Italy. Damned if I can find it, though. I've also asked another of our local purveyors of spirits to see if they can find some.

Not Afraid 07-29-2009 04:32 PM

Fiore d'Alpe or Flora Alpina: Made in northern Italy, this is packaged with a twig in the bottle, upon which excess sugar crystallizes. Traditionally, a real twig was used, but today it is likely to be made of plastic. The liqueur is fairly sweet and features herbal and mint flavors. Bottling proof is high, up to 92o.

Lots of mini bottles on ebay, but it looks like there is no US distributor. Anyone going to Milan soon? Or, perhaps Canada would have it?

innerSpaceman 07-29-2009 04:48 PM

Oh, I'd volunteer to go to Milan to pick some up. ;)

€uroMeinke 07-29-2009 10:13 PM

I think this was known as Enzian in my household - but I don't recall the sugar crust. I do recall it was rare to come across prompting my mom to buy out supplies whenever they were found at Liquor Barn the Bevmo of the day.

BarTopDancer 07-29-2009 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Not Afraid (Post 293670)
Fiore d'Alpe or Flora Alpina: Made in northern Italy, this is packaged with a twig in the bottle, upon which excess sugar crystallizes. Traditionally, a real twig was used, but today it is likely to be made of plastic. The liqueur is fairly sweet and features herbal and mint flavors. Bottling proof is high, up to 92o.

Lots of mini bottles on ebay, but it looks like there is no US distributor. Anyone going to Milan soon? Or, perhaps Canada would have it?

My mom is in Canada for the next month. So if you can tell me exactly to tell her what to look for I can probably get a bottle.

Snowflake 07-30-2009 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by BarTopDancer (Post 293714)
My mom is in Canada for the next month. So if you can tell me exactly to tell her what to look for I can probably get a bottle.

BtD

That would be awesome!

So far I've not been able to come up with a maker, if she could ask if they carry fior d'alpe aka flora alpina.

If successful, I be sending $$ via paypal! :snap:

BarTopDancer 07-30-2009 04:09 PM

I will ask her to make a trip to the liquor commission and look for it. If they don't have it in the town she is at I'll have her look in Halifax on her way home.

Snowflake 08-01-2009 11:05 PM

Drat! My local purveyor of spirits sent me this:

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Hi Donna,

Looks like this product isn’t exported—I got no US hits on the various product searches I ran. Sorry!
Must up the ante, anyone know anyone going to Italy???

Andrew 08-02-2009 01:35 PM

I strongly recommend this article:
Quote:

The cocktail is a lovely simple thing: a mixture of spirits and flavorings that whets the appetite, pleases the eye, and stimulates the mind. It is one of our conspicuous contributions to cultured living, up there with the Great American Songbook and the tuxedo. Yet, like almost everything else to do with culture in this country, the cocktail fell on hard times in the 1960s. A generation preferred other intoxicants and, when they drank, took their alcohol in sickly sweet concoctions that defied any idea of sophistication. As time passed, the places one could order a decent cocktail grew farther in between. By the 1990s, few establishments outside of the fustiest hotels could produce a passable Martini or Manhattan. Fewer still a Negroni, a Jack Rose, or a Sazerac.

Some of it is the ignorance of the folks behind the bar, who not only have a limited mastery of the ratios that make such cocktails refreshing but also fail to measure--every drink should be meted out accurately with jiggers and spoons. It is a profession after all dominated by disabused actors and women comfortable in brief attire. But it is just as much the lack of audience. For a Negroni, your sweet vermouth and your Campari must be fresh, used and replaced regularly. For a Jack Rose, you not only need bottled-in-bond applejack or high-grade Calvados, but also real grenadine, which at this point you must make yourself as the product sold domestically has no pomegranates in it. And a Sazerac?

To make the signature drink of New Orleans, you need not only good rye and an absinthe substitute, but a bottle of Antoine Amedie Peychaud's anise-dominated bitters. You need, in other words, fresh ingredients, a fair amount of knowledge, and practiced skills.

H/T @Maddow

bewitched 08-02-2009 07:37 PM

Ebay

Snowflake 08-03-2009 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by bewitched (Post 294090)

Thanks Whitney!

I saw these, but am I really going to pop one of these open and drink it? Besides, $20+ for a mini bottle?

I'm convinced I can find it, just going to take some patience! :)

lashbear 08-04-2009 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew (Post 294063)
I strongly recommend this article:


H/T @Maddow

Thank you for that article, Andrew !!

I remember the Two Fat Ladies adhering strictly to the:
One of Sour
Two of Sweet
Three of Strong and
Four of weak

formula when concocting their Rum Punch for Christmas.

You've also inspired me to run out and buy the ingredients to make:
Whiskey sour
Rusty Nail
Sidecar

All of which Stoat and I love.

Once I've finished making dinner I will allow us to have an indulgence.

Oh, and to make sure I'm still on topic, I didn't see any Fiore D'Alpe or similar when up at our Dan Murphys (the booze chain with the largest choice in Australia)

Snowflake 08-04-2009 08:04 AM

Well, so far I've come up empty handed. As NA pointed out, and several liquor stores have confirmed, this appears not to be exported to America any longer. That said, a friend of a friend of mine does, in fact, have a bottle of the stuff (they acquired it in the Virgin Islands) and declare it to be delightful.

I've sent out feelers to a couple of people I know who do travel to Italy with some regularity. Not losing hope, yet.

Who knows, perhaps BtD comes through in a pinch! ;)

BarTopDancer 08-04-2009 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Snowflake (Post 294221)
Who knows, perhaps BtD comes through in a pinch! ;)

My mom said she'd stop by the Liquor Commission and see if they have it and how much it is. She is there until the end of August so I'm not sure exactly when she'll go, but she'll go.

BarTopDancer 08-10-2009 05:57 PM

Is this it?

Quote:

Fior D'Alpe , Flora Alpina (23 to 28% alc./vol.)
Is a spice and herb flavored liqueur. It is made with alpine flowers, edelweiss, herbs, spices, sugar and alcohol. It is over sweetened so that the excess sugar readily forms crystals in the bottle. It is red, orange or yellow and is produced in Italy and other european countries. Best enjoyed straight up, on the rocks and in cocktails. Blends well with fruit juices, dairy products, club soda, vodka, dry gin, brandy and rum.

Snowflake 08-10-2009 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BarTopDancer (Post 294937)
Is this it?

Yes, as far as I know, find some?

BarTopDancer 08-10-2009 10:05 PM

She sent me a link or verification and will check if the Liquor Commission carries it and how much it is. She is in a very small town; if they don't have it she will have my cousin check or she'll check the Liquor Commission in Halifax before she heads home.

Snowflake 08-11-2009 08:21 AM

BtD you and your Mom as awesomeness personified! Thank you for all your efforts!

BarTopDancer 08-15-2009 05:45 PM

Bad news...

The Liquor Commission in Yarmouth (the town my mom is in) doesn't carry it. She called the one in Halifax and left a message but they haven't called her back. She is going to ask my cousin to look when he goes back to Halifax tomorrow.

I'll ask her if she has time to check the Duty Free store in the Halifax airport too.

BarTopDancer 08-17-2009 11:14 AM

More bad news...

They don't carry it in Halifax and the Liquor Commission doesn't think they carry it anywhere in Canada.

Sorry!!! :(

Snowflake 08-17-2009 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BarTopDancer (Post 295604)
More bad news...

They don't carry it in Halifax and the Liquor Commission doesn't think they carry it anywhere in Canada.

Sorry!!! :(

Hey! You tried! I appreciate all the help! I suspect the only option is Italy, if it is still made there. Hmmm, cheap fares?......;)

Actually, I've got 2 friends going to Italy soon and they are going to continue the search.

mousepod 08-17-2009 12:02 PM

FIOR D'ALPE SEALED MINI LIQUOR BOTTLE LOT MILAN ITALY

"Not for consumption." Sure.

Snowflake 08-17-2009 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mousepod (Post 295610)

Hmmm, this is tempting! Thanks MP!

Okay, I have some exciting news. One of my office mates mentioned this to a friend of a friend, who replied, why we have a bottle! We'll donate it to the cause and the great experiment. Who are we to stand in the way of a tried and true Valentino fan?

It is an opened bottle, but they have declared it delicious and are bringing it to the office next week sometime. :D

BarTopDancer 08-17-2009 03:15 PM

Awesome news!!!!!

Kevy Baby 08-17-2009 10:24 PM

So this thread isn't about aging lesbians?

JWBear 08-17-2009 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevy Baby (Post 295663)
So this thread isn't about aging lesbians?

Only in Kevy World.

lashbear 08-18-2009 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Snowflake (Post 295624)
Hmmm, this is tempting! Thanks MP!

Okay, I have some exciting news. One of my office mates mentioned this to a friend of a friend, who replied, why we have a bottle! We'll donate it to the cause and the great experiment. Who are we to stand in the way of a tried and true Valentino fan?

It is an opened bottle, but they have declared it delicious and are bringing it to the office next week sometime. :D

Great News !!!!!

Now you need to have a swanking for the tasting.....

Snowflake 08-18-2009 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by lashbear (Post 295669)
Great News !!!!!

Now you need to have a swanking for the tasting.....

So? When is your flight? ;)

lashbear 08-18-2009 04:11 PM

12th October.... but it's to Melbourne. :p

Snowflake 09-10-2009 02:25 PM

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Okay, I have in hand, a large (but not close to being full) bottle of Fior D'Alpe, complete with clear plastic tree inside. Sorry for the crappy cell phone pic and bad office lighting.

Attachment 1176

I tested the waters by dipping my finger in it to see if it was lethal (as in poisonous), apparently not as I'm not dead yet.

Anise is the flavor that comes through, not as sweet as described. The alcohol is still quite, quite potent.

My hairstylist is in Italy now, also searching.....I have hopes for a full and fresh bottle.

The crazy things those crazy Valentino fans will do, they're all nuts. :blush:

lashbear 09-10-2009 05:06 PM

I love the retro-looking label. It almost looks like you'd find it in the cellar at Hearst Castle.


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