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The Gay Thread
This is a thread for homosexuals only.
no, just kidding :p This is a thread to discuss anything gay ... and let's try to keep it gay in every sense of the word ... especially that old, old, old school sense of happy and carefree. :) I realize that, nowadays, some gay is tied up with politics like peanut butter in your chocolate. But let's do our best to keep the wrangling to the political threads in the Daily Grind or the Parking Lot. Speaking of which, I know there's the long-running, very successful Gay thread in the Parking Lot, going by the long-since-appropriate name of "Post Prop 8 Fallout." I guess I just think we can and should have a gay thread that doesn't belong in the Parking Lot. I hope so anyway. The good news is, while we have both conservatives and progressives on the LoT, I don't think we have a single posting member who is anti-gay-rights or homophobic. Cool. :cool: It may turn out that the Post Prop 8 thread continues to get the bulk of gay action. It certainly wouldn't be any different from the real world if 'my' thread were to see a dearth of gay action. :rolleyes: But I'm hoping for a better result than the Gay Apartheid thread. Let's try and keep it Gay! :cheers: - :iSm: |
Keep it happy
Keep it snappy Keep it gay! |
This thread is gay.
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I interrupt this queer-fest just to say publicly what's been discussed a few times behind the scenes. The Post Prop H8 thread remains in the Parking LoT not because of any particular bad behavior there, but by virtue of the fact that it was started there and has existed there for over a year, thus people would have been posting with the expectation of their posts not being visible to the outside world. So we can't go dragging it into the light on the chance that someone posted something there that they would rather have not posted publicly.
You may continue now with your fagocity. |
No, you're a towel, GD!
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I changed my avatar in honor of Gay Days weekend :) Can't believe I found a Victorian fashion plate with what looks like women kissing on it...!
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I'm so un-gay at the moment... this must be fixed!
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I pity any girl who isn't me to-night!
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Was this part of the agenda?
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Didn't you get your mailer this month?
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I guess not. What other subversive activities are planned?
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Fine but there won't be anyone in this thread to discuss "Everybody Loves Raymond" reruns.
Don't say you weren't warned. |
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Googie Gomez.
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Joo thing I doan know what goes on in there; You men with your "Ha ha ha, ho ho ho, he he he"!
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Super Mega Visual Mojo for anyone mentioning The Ritz!!
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The Ritz!!!
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I have to thank Al Lutz for introducing me to The Ritz.
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ok, i give up ... what's The Ritz??
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Bonus: Menchie's is in walking distance! |
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Right now. Go to your preferred DVD rental purveyor and get The Ritz. It was recently issued on DVD, so it shouldn't be hard to find. It was originally a play by Terrence McNally produced on Broadway in 1975. Most of that cast reunited for the film version a year later. It's about a straight guy trying to escape from the mob who winds up in a gay (redundant?) bath house in New York. It's very silly and may be unintentionally dark as this was all pre-AIDS. But I'm telling you, Rita Moreno as Googie Gomez, an aspiring actress constantly on the lookout for a producer, is worth the price of admission 10 times over. If you do not see this film soon, you will be forced to give up your gay card. I have the DVD, come over if you want to watch it with me. |
Plus it has a very young Treat Williams; who spends most of the film in nothing but a towel!
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I used to hang with a group of friends who had regular campy gay movie nights. I miss that.
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I <heart> Googie.
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You think I'm a drag queen??? These are real titties !!
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iSm, you may not watch this clip until after you have seen the whole movie (The Ritz), but holy crap, I've seen it dozens of times and it brings me to tears with laughter every single time!
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Gay Sportsbar opens in Los Angeles
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Sorry, but in my book - - if you like sports, you're faux gay.
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Nope, I don't care how many of them profess a love for sports. They're not real gays. :p
Kinda reminds me of this old yoke Isaac relayed to me yesterday: There's two kinds of gays in this world: bottoms .... ... and liars. ;) :iSm: |
Amusing, but physically impossible if you think about it hard enough. ;)
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I went through training at Midwest Express with a guy who put it this way: He's a guy who likes to suck d!ck, but he's still a GUY.
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Naturally, this is not a rationale I subscribe to - - but among men of certain cultures (*cough*LatinAmericans*cough*Arabs*cough*cough), as long as you are the "top" in a sexual escapade with another man, you are completely straight! Bottoms = gay Tops = straight fixed! |
Aaaah, I get it now.
Well, I'm not getting it, but I understand. |
The two concepts were not originally connected. I put them together just now to find a twisted rationalization for the truth in that earlier joke.
Of course, the joke can't literally be true. But I grok the truth in its sentiment. |
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I am a gay man who is completely, stereotypically, disinterested in sports. If you ever want to help me if I come down with insomnia, just turn on a game. I'll be out in minutes. They're like chloroform for me. However, I accept that there are plenty of my fellow 'mos who do enjoy sports. I'll just be somewhere else when they do. |
Hmmm, maybe the kernal for me is you can certainly be homosexual if you're into sports.
You just can't be gay. And by that I mean gay in the way that I am jewish. It's a cultural thing. A word with more than one meaning. It even means happy! :) |
I like sports. The tighter the uniforms (or the lack of them) the better. That's why (to the chagrin of Ms. BarTopDancer) I'm kinda meh about ice hockey.
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I don't agree with that either. I've known some extremely nelly queens that enjoyed sports. |
Yeah, go ahead and argue that GC isn't gay.
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I don't doubt there are flamers who are rabid sports fans.
But, stereotypical or not, I'd say they run counter to the age-old culture that features such vast but oft true generalizations as Likes Showtunes, Hates Sports. |
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Oh hell honey, I used to work at the Kings' training center
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Not my style, but whatever floats your kinky Russian-loving boat, Lashie ;) |
Tease !!
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Of some curious interest, Sean Avery, the most hated--and, supposedly, crudely, rudely straight--player in the NHL, is studying to be a fashion designer.
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And that's gay... why?
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Response No. 1: F***, I don't know. Response No. 2 (pissy subcategory): Because much female fashion design reflects profound hatred of women. Seriously, folks, if, generalization-wise, this thread is going to be one of those "only black people can say n*****" threads, you should have posted a sign on the door. I will . . . withdraw. |
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As for the rest of SL's rant... WTF?!? |
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One of my hockey buddies is gay. Some of you have met him. |
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Nope, I'm turning it back into a gay thread.
It seems a ripe topic of discussion to consider gay stereotypes and whether to embrace them, acknowledge them with dignity and humor, or work against them. |
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Hockey games are played in three 20-minute periods. NHL teams get 15 minutes between periods where they can go to their locker rooms and make out with each other.* Luc Robitaille was hot. A lot of The Blades are hot. There's that's hockey and gay! :) *Part of that paragraph may be just a fantasy of mine. |
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Yes, yes it is.
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Sean Avery is in the business of drawing attention to Sean Avery. He's the Barry Zito of hockey.
Barry Zito is as gay as Easter, btw. |
Sean Avery deserves to be flattened into a pancake on the ice. I am so thrilled that the officials seem to finally have his number.
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A sign seen at the march yesterday
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I've found that if you spray down your equipment with Lysol after every game, and air it out for at least a day, you can keep the stink factor WAY down.
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Airing it out sounds pleasant, though of questionable legality. |
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I meant "padding", just in case it wasn't obvious. <slaps forehead> |
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Judge Walker hands a cool hand rebuke to the lawyers for Prop 8 in the now famous Olson/Bois-helmed federal case headed for the U.S. Supreme Court some day.
The Judge wants the case on a fast track to public trial in January, and has ordered the Prop 8ers to produce their inner campaign documents, to see if Prop 8 was motivated by animus toward homosexuals. While the Prop 8ers appeal that order, they made another delaying tactic by moving that the matter be decided without a trial. Huh? The hearing on that motion was today, and Judge Walker handed them the smackdown. As reported by Legal Pad: Quote:
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No Homo: the ultimate phrase!
not 100% work safe (language) |
Jeff Stryker sings in an 80s music video. (work safe)
Anyone know what porn this was featured in? (I do not.) |
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Hehehehe - I remember that there was a group who organised a GayDay at Australia's Wonderland, and they had Jeff Stryker all set to fly in and perform at the party (singing, I would think, but you never know...)
Anyhoo, it turns out that someone tipped the park owners off as to Mr Stryker's profession, and the party was pulled faster than a straight man in a video arcade. Pity. I was looking forward to seeing him in real life - they say he's really short. That's what makes..... er, that other thing... look larger than life. |
Yep, always worked for me. In truth, my package isn't all that alarming ... bur forced perspective has always left partners with a favorable impression.
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So that's who gave the Imagineers the idea....
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I saw him interviewed on an HBO show. I have learned the definition of smarmy. |
[Mae West] So, let's forget the 5 feet and talk about those 9 1/2 Inches [/Mae West]
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NYC has a Big Gay Ice Cream Truck
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Has anyone seen the new Girls' video "Lust For Life"? Not only is it a great song, but it's the gayest video I've seen in a while. And it's definitely NSFW.
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I watched it at work anyway.
What's not safe? ;) |
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Yes, we know that about You.
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It's about time! Although I'd asumed it was already a law. I guess we just have a state law here but I know I've seen people tried for hate crimes here in Oregon. It should be Federal too, I just thought it already was.
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Gotta disagree-
A crime is a crime- no matter the motivation. A straight white male who loses his life has lost as much and their family has lost as much as a latino gay male. It's unequal and punishes thought- when it should just punish the crime- no matter who the victim. |
Unfortunately, "should" just isn't enough sometimes. Here's a fun fact:
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But hey, protesting hate crime legislation could become the next teabag revolution. Have fun storming the castle! |
If you rob an old lady or abuse a position of trust to embezzle money or molest a kid, or if you associate with a gang that prompts you to commit a robbery, you're going to get a higher sentence than someone else who commits similar crimes. There is nothing wrong with identifying behavior or beliefs that carry with them a higher potential for believing that criminal activity is justifiable or can be gotten away with and then punishing the yielding to those temptations more severely as a means to deter others.
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I agree with Nephythys. Hate Crime legislation is inappropriate. If I'm getting my head bashed in, it doesn't hurt any more or less based on the internal monolog of my attacker. Crime is crime, murder is murder. If you want to increase punishments for violent crimes, do it across the board.
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and now for something completely different...
Coming Soon: "Sugar Daddy Ken" Doll. :eek: Is Mattel finally admitting Ken is a mo? |
I think that's fake. I can't find any legit Mattel news on it.
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I see both sides of the hate crime debate. Sure, for the victim and their loved ones, a crime of violence is the same no matter what the motivation.
But for the larger community routinely targeted by violence, or a community of criminals prone to serial acts of violence - enhanced punishments are, imo, justified as a deterrent - - even though I think deterrents like that rarely deter. Hate crimes are, in addition, a form of terrorism that impacts with fear the larger targeted community just as it impacts the actual victim with physical harm or death. When your target is more than just your victim, the punishment should be more than just that for the assault on the victim. When James Byrd was dragged to his death behind a car, the purpose of that crime was to strike fear in the hearts of all black men. When Matthew Shepard was left beaten on a fencepost to die, it was because he was gay -- not because he was Matthew Shepard ... and therefore likely struck fear into the hearts of countless homosexuals. These are the single victims for whom the Hate Crimes legislation was named. They were not the only victims of their respective crimes. More victims, more punishment. So Sayeth I. :D |
If I thought strong hate crime legislation would be a deterrent, I'd support it. But it's not a deterrent. You could mandate the Death Penalty for gay-bashing but that's not going to stop BillyBob from going out on Friday night for the express purpose of "killin' me wunna them faggots."
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Fine, then I want BillyBob punished more for targeting fags than for targeting someone in particular. "Fags" is more than one victim, and Sasha just happened to be the one he chose that night. I have no problem feeling that if BillyBob wants to beat up fags, Sasha will be first ... and Remington will be next.
Similarly, and perhaps I reveal my bias here - - I want Malike who shot and paralyzed my nephew to be punished MORE because he was in a gang and just decided to shoot into a crowd of school kids at a bus stop. His intended victim was Paul AND OTHERS. And I have no problem feeling that if Malike is willing to shoot random strangers for his gang ... Sam will be next. |
Hate crimes are usually not random. It's simply not the same as your run-of-the-mill mugging or robbery. They are motivated solely by hatred of a particular group (or groups). The victims are targeted specifically due to their (actual or perceived) membership in a particular class. The violence is more horrific in these types of crimes.
The purpose of hate crimes laws is not to say that members of the protected classes are some how “special”, and that random crimes against them are somehow worse. The laws are a statement by society that it will no longer tolerate violence that is directed specifically towards a certain group - violence that is motivated by hatred. |
I will counter that violence motivated by hatred is no more vile than violence motivated by greed or revenge or desperation. And certainly a single. non-protected class person can be murdered by virtue of hatred.
But I do think it's within society's purview to say Attempt to Hurt One of Us, Go to Jail for 20 Years; Attempt to Hurt a Hundred of Us, Go to Jail for 50. |
Hate crimes can be random in that someone is randomly targeted for being black or having a swish in his walk. But, no it's not like someone is just punched in the face because she's carrying a purse.
I just posted this on my FB page but the attack is meant to be a message to an entire group of people. It's like a terrorist attack. (I know, I hate using that word "terrorist". It's been watered down in the media to represent just about anyone now.) |
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A woman who is white and straight and is raped and her throat slashed and her body beaten is LESS horrific than a gay man who is raped and has his throat slashed and body beaten? A man who sets out to kill a woman is not random. I'm sorry but that is absurd and wrong. All violent crime requires hatred and anger-it should not matter what the thinking was or the "membership" of a group of people. A murdered gay man did not suffer more agony and fear than the murdered woman-his family does not feel more pain and loss. Hate crime laws create different classes of victims- it's wrong. Prosecute the crime equally- no matter the motivation. Someone who gets punished for a "hate crime" should not do more jail time than someone who did not- they should do the same. We can not and should not attempt to prosecute THOUGHT. Equality- Marriage Serving in the Armed Services Equal-and the process and punishment for violent crimes against anyone should be equal too. |
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I should add that how much the victim or family suffered is somewhat irrelevant to the debate. Criminal justice isn't, and shouldn't be about retribution, or an attempt to assuage the hurt the victim/victim's family feels. This has been shown time and again with regards, specifically, to the death penalty. Very very very few people have, in the long run, said that once a killer is put to death, that they somehow feel vindicated or relieved.
Criminal justice should is about A) punishing the criminal and B) maintaining societal order. An argument can be made (I should mention here that I'm of two minds regarding hate crime legislation) that people who commit violent crimes based on bigoted motives are people who are more likely to commit another violent crime in the future. The thought being that, since their animosity is directed at an entire GROUP of people, rather than some individual grudge, they pose a larger threat and should therefore be kept out of society longer. It's not about making the victim feel better, it's about discouraging and preventing future incidents as much as possible. I don't know that there's any evidence that such legislation is effective in that aim, but there is some logic there that I can follow, so I'm not ready to entirely dismiss it as a useful tool for long term dampening of the ugly bit of American culture that is literal gay bashing. |
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Never heard of Matilda Himmelfarb? Exactly. Matilda was murdered for her money. Matthew was murdered because he was gay. I suppose "hate crimes" is a poor term because, you are right, almost all crimes have an element of hatred. And Gemini Cricket is right that terrorism has been too watered down, but that's why the punishments are enhanced. Because what we are calling "hate crimes" are literally terrorism. |
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Like- a drunk driver may be charged with man slaughter instead of murder. They did not set out to kill. A crime of passion where someone is killed vs. a plotted hit. But of ALL of those distinctions-it doesn't matter to me if the victim is gay, straight, black, white.....the victims are equal. |
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Maybe women are more impacted by fear of rape and murder. Mothers may fear someone killing their children. We may feel impact and fear based on our similarities to a victim-but punishment should not be meted out based on the fear impact on others- it should be based on the crime. |
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GD said it best (of course ;) ). The idea that "person A shot person B" is always the exact same crime and deserves the exact same punishment is absurd.
What if: A = 4 year old with daddy's gun? A = A senile 101 year old man? A = A person who's killed before? OR B = A visibly pregnant woman? B = A person who is pointing a gun at A? Give me a break. :rolleyes: Another point that I would make is that statements in black and white look lovely on paper, but that human brains do not work that way. "Motive doesn't matter" just doesn't make sense in the world of human experience, as the already-in-place legal system bears out. I'm reminded of the "is it ok to steal medicine to make your loved one well" test they give children and teens to show that there is a gray area in good/bad and punishment that people grow to understand as they mature. |
Motive does matter-but saying it is "worse" for someone to kill because their victim was gay, than because their victim was a woman- is wrong. It creates a different class of victims-and the punishment should not be different due to that "class".
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Again, we already do that. It's "worse" to assault a child vs. assaulting an adult. It's "worse" to abuse an elderly infirmed person than a middle-aged person. There are countless laws that have been in effect, with little to no objection, for decades that delineate all kinds of different classes of people against whom a crime carries a stiffer punishment.
Argue all you want that this particular way to create a separate class won't accomplish anything benefiting society, but saying that creating different classes of victims is in and of itself wrong simply does not hold water considering our current justice system. So unless we're going to open up debate on all of those other laws meant to protect particular classes of people, it's not an argument that makes much sense. |
I thought this was the happy gay thread
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Just by way of completing a thought - employment laws, specifically laws concerning discriminatory hiring and firing practices, already create legal distinctions involving the very protected classes of people covered by hate crime legislation.
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I think that Mario Cantone is the gayest gay that has ever gayed TV. He was on The View this morning dressed as Peter Pan. No one was shocked.
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I love Mario Cantone!! He's funny, talented, gorgeous, and openly gay. (as if he could hide that fact)
Did you see his Broadway show Laugh Whore? Screamingly funny! It was on Showtime a few years ago but alas, does not appear to have been released on DVD. :( I saw him as Buzz in Love! Valor! Compassion! at the Geffen Playhouse years ago. He had (and presumably still has) a very nice ass. Yes, we got a good look at it. |
No, this gay man loves Mario Cantone but gosh he's just full bloom all the time!
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I always thought that Mario Cantone overplayed it on "Sex and the City," but I guess it could not have been otherwise.
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Seriously though, as soon as I saw what the clip was, I knew what was at 1:30 or so. Love that movie! |
LOVED this article by Dan Savage on Halloween as the new Straight Pride.
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I'm not a fan of Tyra Bank's show but if I could have been her for one day, that day would have been the day Dave Salmoni was a guest on her Halloween show. Wow.
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I wonder if he's used to handling Bears ?
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I will take one for the team and teach him how to handle a bear.
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You guys probably would have gone crazy over the guy who played Rocky at Universal for Horror Nights...
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What, you don't think he's hot?
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Oh, Rocky!
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Will Farrell's hotness comes from his tremendous sense of humor. imho.
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When Will Farrell is bad, I hate him with a passion. When he's good, he cracks my sh*t up.
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This just in from a valiant gay rights warrior (aka ME): Don't sweat it. Let's not even work our asses off. Let's just WAIT.
The same percentage point difference in Maine as here: Roughly 50/50, balancing by a thread. It's inevitable to swing our way as old folks die and young people grow. Why waste billions of dollars and countless hours of effort on a cause, though dear to my heart, that will be won by virtue of time itself moving forward as it always does? I hate to say it, but there are far more worthy causes that are not inevitably won. I don't mean to sound defeated. Hardly. We've already won, but too many people just don't know it yet. |
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And sad, that religion has the potential to be such a force of hope, joy, and inspiration to so many gay people, but there's such a hatred of God or religion in the gay community because of crap like this. |
I don't know that I'd call it a hatred of God ... but if a cynical view of organized religion is born of all this, that's one small silver lining for the gays.
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Recent polls suggest that there is a 52.5% chance that Americans are bigots.
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Prejean Goes XXX
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Still, the Pageant is reportedly paying out $100,000 towards Prejean's costs.
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'Cause two people of the same gender being in a loving long term relationship is so much more immoral that being in a porn video! :rolleyes:
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All hail! The slut "just doesn't think it's right" for two loving adults to make a legal commitment to each other!
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It's apparently unreleased - and apparently filthy. Filthy enough that TMZ thought better of releasing it. Yes, you read that right, too racey for freaking TMZ to publish.
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That's some filthy!
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I had happily forgotten that this woman existed, so my first thought was, "Sister Helen, what have you done?"
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You never go ass to mouth, Miss Prejean.
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R71 is still leading in WA. Not marriage, but at least the not marriage bill isn't losing.
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My roommate and I went out to the Maine Solidarity and Prop 8 Anniversary protest rally and march yesterday. It was such a feeling of deja vu. Very last minute, so I found myself making a quick sign out of box tops at work, just like I did exactly one year earlier.
Ran into a bunch of old activist friends and had a fun time, but the crowd was - naturally - much smaller than last year. I wasn't really inclined to go, but Isaac thinks we should try to keep some momentum going in the activist community! Who knew? For me, I just figured since so many other parts of the country honored California with Prop 8 protests last year, it was the least I could do to contribute to a nationwide protest of the similarly despicable results in Maine. Not based solely on the meh showing last night, but I've a feeling I'm hardly the only disaffected activist who has lost the sense of urgency on this issue. I think they're going to have a hard time getting this back on the ballot in 2010 here in California ... and I'm not at all sure I'm going to help with that effort as I'd long planned to do. Stay tuned. |
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! And my favorite moment: When the protest passed by the popular gay bar, Ackbar, in Silver Lake, we all shouted at the patrons, "Out of bar, into the streets! Out of the bar, into the streets!" - like the famous scene in the movie, Milk. Half a block further on, passing a McDonald's with one of those hamster-like playzones for kids, the crowd starts spontaneously shouting, "Out of the PlayPlace, into the streets! Out of the PlayPlace, into streets!" - while kids inside the plastic bubble looked on, quite perplexed. ;) Tee and Hee! :snap: |
sooooo... did many kids join you?
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Not a single one. But next year, when they learn about anal sex in class as part of their 3rd grade syllabus, we'll have us a few more converts.
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At least nobody's leaked the truth about the DADT "Buggery Barracks"
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Hahaha, kinda drunk ex-sailor at the protest last night: I love gay guys. They're were tons of gay guys in the Navy, and they were all alright. Ya know what they used to say? A ship goes out with 5,000 men, and comes back with 2,500 couples.
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ISM- awesome. :)
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The most recent episode of South Park should be required watching for anyone following this thread (GC - I'm particularly looking at you)
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I happen to agree with the philosophy of that episode, though more than a few in the gay community are upset with it.
They point out if "Fag" were replaced with the word I can't even type on the LoT, the show would have been pulled. Perhaps, but it doesn't change the fact that word meanings can change. "That's so gay" and "Fag" may be firmly rooted in homo insults, but their meaning is evolving and queers needn't get their frilly panties in such a bunch about people using them to insult things that aren't homosexual. Now that I'm no longer SGA, I'll likely go back to using, "That's so gay." And I only wish the Fag word could be successfully disarmed. That won't happen by continuing to take needless offense as it naturally evolves. It doesn't mean Harley Riders yet, but it's not just about homos anymore. |
"You can be gay and not be a fag".
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I really liked that episode. It was severely funny. :D
"There's little flags stuck in the sh*t!" I have no problem with this episode at all. South Park has demonstrated gay-friendly messages time and time again in previous episodes. I don't see a problem with them parodying LGBT people or issues. I mean, Big Gay Al and Mr. Slave are married for crying out loud. I don't see a problem with them trying to change the definition of the word "fag". I believe a lot of people (kids mostly) using the word and don't mean it to be derogatory towards gay people. With that being said, I oddly enough have a problem with people using "gay" to mean "lame". Especially when it's done so by someone who knows it bugs other people and are gay themselves. I don't use either word unless I'm doing it to parody people who do. Which I guess that is why I have no problem with the South Park episode. Also, (Ooh. Johnny Weismuller is on TCM in a loin cloth!) I think the gay rights organizations who are up in arms about this are lame. They should be focusing on why gay marriage initiatives are failing all over this country. They shouldn't be spending time skewering allies. I think it's only a matter of time before LGBT people and gay friendly folk are going to start questioning the effectiveness of these groups that have a lot of money and seemingly have very little power to change sh*t... with little flags stuck in them. :D ETA: Quote:
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Plus...fvck Harley riders, total fags.
I think the episode made its best point when they went through the full etemology of the word. Regarding "gay", I'm torn. On the one hand, I do agree with G.C.'s point. While it's gotten to the point that most people use it to mean "lame" rather than "homosexual", it still very heavily leans toward, "I think you're lame, therefore I'm going to call you gay because, as we all know, homosexuals are lame. So even though I don't mean that you are a guy who prefers penis to vagina, I do mean that I hate that aspect of your personality as much as I hate homosexuals." On the other hand...it's a fun word to say and I can't stop myself saying it! For the most part I use it in the iSm sense, not so much to mean "lame", but more to just mean, "Wow, that's something a flaming homo would like, but not me." For example - "Holy crap, the furniture in here is gaaaaaaay!" But I'll cop to using it in the more general "lame" use case, though almost exclusively in reference to aesthetic choices as opposed to calling someone, or someone's actions "gay"...almost exclusively. I'd don't love that I continue to use it. I think the arrival of the kiddo will finally break me of it as I will be more conscious of my language usage overall. |
GD ~ Yeah, f*ck those Harley fags.
I must admit that I do use "gay" to mean "something a gay would like". Like me watching Tarzan the Ape Man right now because Johnny Weismuller is totally hot. That's totally gay! I don't mind people using "gay" in that way, especially if I know the user is gay-friendly. |
This thread is Gay.
BTW: I was able to watch the southpark episode thanks to a special helper... you know who you are. :D |
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While I try (and often fail) to refrain when I know the phrase bugs people, I believe both the word "Fag" and the phrase "That's so gay" are least potentially offensive when said by gays. Only blacks can say the word that can't even be typed on the LoT, and queers call each other Fag in the most affectionate manner. I'm glad "That's so gay" can be uttered by straights and not be an insult to gays. Certainly it can be uttered by gays. Sheesh. But, yeah, I use it only in reference to things flaming gaysters would like, or would stereotypically like. Never about a person, or something that's lame for one of a myriad of other reasons. Eskimos have 12 different words for snow, after all. |
Let's play "Offensive or Not"! I'll start.
"OMG, did you hear that GC is applying for a job as manager of a resort hotel spa? So gay!" :D :evil: |
They'll know he's desperate, so you can bet they'll Jew him down on salary.
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Being niggardly with the fags, eh? Typical. I've heard that the British don't like sharing their cigarettes.
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There are grey areas. I mean, if you see some guy wearing bejeweled Crocs with Hannah Montana socks and you say, "Now, that's gay." It could mean the guy is lame, it could mean the guy is gay, it could mean the guy is gay and lame, it could mean just his footwear is lame and/or gay.
I think it would be even gayer if the spa was designated as males only. |
In honor of the Fag episode, I will be treating my roomie to his inaugural showing of Team America: World Police tonight.
Can't wait. Oh, and nothing offensive in that movie! |
WHAAAAT? Inaugural showing?!@?
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Which we didn't watch after all. I forgot I'd netflixed the remake of Halloween, and decided to watch that while there was still a whiff of the season.
Team America soon though. No, Isaac's never seen it. |
John Aravosis (AMERICAblog.com) is a friend of mine, but I don't know what I feel about his new campaign.
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I'm absolutely in favor of the "pause." I'd actively participate ... if only I'd ever given a dime to the Democratic party.
And with "friends" like them, who needs enemies? |
Hey, my desktop wallpaper pic is on this Advocate.com story!
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And now, in our "Play By My Rules or I Will Leave and Take My Toys With Me" portion of the news:
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So, for the Catholic church, hatred of gays is more inportant than doing good works. How Christian. :rolleyes:
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I don't really see a problem with their position.
Yes, I disagree with them on whether putting children in the care of gays is a sin but accepting that they do consider it to be so, then if the state says that they must if they want to facilitate any adoptions then the logical decision is to stop doing them at all. That really is the proper decision in almost any situation where you're told "you can only do the right thing if you'll do the wrong thing too." I'm not sure how I feel about them being held to the rule, though. I guess it would depend on to what degree they are acting as an agent of the state. But it doesn't seem that far away from saying "if you want to perform state recognized weddings then you can't discriminate against performing gay weddings" which recent campaigns have stressed would not be the end result of gay marriage. |
If they're receiving funds from the state to operate their adoption services, as opposed to simply filing paperwork with the state to report their adoption activities, then I think they should be required to play by state non-discrimination rules.
And yes, under those circumstance, what they've chosen is the "logical" decision based on their faulty suppositions. But it's still worth highlighting since it starkly points out the underlying flaw in said suppositions, creating a handy edge case shining a spotlight on how their dogmatic thinking can (and often does) result in detriment to community when they claim to stand for community benefit. |
I remember reading a comment somewhere that it's strange to see so much homophobia coming from an orginization full of men in dresses.
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So why doesn't "D.C. Clergy United for Marriage Equality" announce they will gladly take up the charitable shoe dropped by the Catholic Church, and advise them not to let the door hit them on the way out?
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The answer for the religious organizations that wish to do charitable works for married couples but don't want to offer these same benefits to gay married couples is simple:
Stop taking gov't money. |
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Via FedEx through her assistant. I'd love to meet her! She reminds me of my aunt Lyla in Kansas.
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Sooo, how can I order some? I loved the one's you left for me, you are like a supplier, here's a sample.......now I am addicted. PM me details, seriously |
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I love Dolly more and more!
Comment that stands out: >>I saw Dolly on Jay Leno one night years ago and while drooling all over her cleavage, he leered at her and asked if she had ever felt tempted by any of her leading men and if so, which one was the most tempting to her. She twinkled at him and shot right back, "Lily Tomilin!" << Love that woman! |
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It's good to be gay.
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So when exactly can you revoke the gay membership card?
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Geez, whoever converted HIM didn't do such a good job. They should give their Toaster-oven back.
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Fiscaly conservative gays, I can understand. But socially conservative gays... WTF?
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HRC has published their 2009/2010 buyers guide .
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AMEX is one with a perfect score of 100 - good thing too, cos I'm going for another job with them.
and JW: you don't have to give up the Sims. EA has a score of 100, too ! |
Oh DAMN. I can't buy SPAM or STAGG fat-free chilli anymore. :(
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I'll need to go through the list and compile things that I'd like to continue buying, vs do I really want it that bad?
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Looks like I need to get an XBox
Gay Sex Scene Revealed in Dragons Age: Origins
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LOVE The lead is good, but you can't beat that eye-cut at :07 from the guy in the black shirt on the right. |
Cool video, but why is it in the gay thread? Those guys are clearly straight—they have facial hair. :confused:
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Yeah, Suuuuuuuuuuuure. :p
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I don't think that's right. One of my aunts has facial hair. She's not straight.
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Nice interpretation of the lyrics and a good illustration of the message. Thanks for the find !
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Oooh, arch conservative Alex P Keaton will not be amused.
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On another nice note, D.C. Council Approves Marriage Equality 11-2 in First of Two Votes. |
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Judith Light isn't gay, is she? I know she's a huge activist on LGBT issues, but I thought she's straight.
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Judith Light is an awesome gay ally. She happens to be heterosexual though.
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If you watch Rachel Maddow, she's been on that story for a while now Some of the stuff around The Family feels a bit too Dan Brown to me but she's been drawing some interesting connections between that story and some significant American politicians (and also with the Stupak Amendment in the House version of the healthcare bill).
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Apparently the death penalty part is being taken out. Still criminalizes homosexuality, though.
Just because it is slightly apropos of a previous conversation it is worth pointing out that this is a Christian country (a coworker here just jumped to the conclusion that its a Muslim country) that was going to pass this before international limelight changed their mind. |
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see, that's flawed, I mean, nobody realised I was a Mo when they met me.
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If I didn't already know that Ken is as straight as they get, this morning would have sealed that ideal. I awoke to find him wearing tan pants with a red polo shirt under a slate blue sweatshirt with the collar flaps from the polo shirt pulled out over the sweatshirt.
And, no, I didn't let him leave the house like that. ;) |
Since there's some tendency to bash Texas and other parts of the south whenever gay issues are discussed, I thought it worthy of notice that yesterday Houston became the largest city in the United States to elect an openly gay mayor (and a woman too).
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I'm STILL willing to go out on a limb and say that all Texan drivers are a$$holes. ;)
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Houston is an island.
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Sure, but then so are Dallas, Austin, San Antonio, El Paso, and much of the rural southern tip of the state. All of which are areas when were won by Obama last year.
Sure things aren't all rosy and perfect. But on this message board very broad blanket statements have been made about the south and Texas so I thought it worthy of a highlight, just like when very broad blanket statements have been made about other groups to general consternation. |
Steers and queers, Texas. Steers and queers.
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Alex, thank you for making us aware of Huston's progressive-minded election news. Please continue to do so in the future.
As much as I applaud the people of Huston for their decision to elect a qualified person who happens to be a lesbian to the position of mayor, I do not think that negates the reputation The South has earned for itself as a region not too keen on mos. |
Speaking of progressive actions, the state of Nevada just opened the doors to male prostitution.
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And I don't mean to imply that it should negate the reputation of the south as a region unfriendly to the gay cause.
I mean to suggest that that it is worthy of a reminder that not all southerners are unfriendly. And that, in fact, a lot of them are not. |
I have progressive friends all over the South. Austin is great fun. In fact, in Austin there is a gay bar on the same block as the governor's mansion. I think that's pretty awesome. I watched the series finale of 'Six Feet Under' there with several other queens and a couple of suited gentlemen who I swear were politicians of some sort. They were stuffing dollar bills into the thongs of the hottie male dancers there.
ETA: Sorry, it's on the same block as the State Capitol and the TX Supreme Court not the Gov's mansion. Charlie's Bar. :) |
I went to a Gay bar in Dallas and did line dancing with Santa claus !!! (I got a good kiss offen him too !) Stoat & I weren't aware of any anti gay feeling at all during our whole time in Texas. (that includes the campest swish-through of the Mary Kay museum you ever did see.)
Saddest part was the fairgrounds were closed. No complete-dessert-buffet-deep=fried-on-a-stick for me that year. |
Nice ABC. Nice.
Following Adam Lambert's performance at the AMA, he was bumped from a scheduled appearance on Good Morning America. Who replaced him? Chris Brown. Stay classy, GMA. |
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I can't spell and the spell-checker didn't flag it.
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Oh my dear sweet jesus... he is god's gift to gays.
http://www.towleroad.com/2010/01/fir...or-armani.html (And if anyone here says "eeh he's not my type," I'm not talking to you for a week.) |
eeh he's not my type.
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Oh you're just saying that cause your beard is watching... ;)
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^^ Hahaha directed at either person, it's sort of a comical statement :p
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You're correct JW. You had the misfortune of posting in between the time I read GD's comment and when I submitted my post. :)
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Home now. Saw the pictures. Too much of a smooth "pretty boy" for my tast. Sorry Joe.
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I'll take a smooth pretty boy any day... although I sort of doubt I'm HIS type.
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While the muscly types aren't really my type (if I were gay) the problem for me is that as photographed his facial expressions make him look like a moron (this in no way implies he is, but all I have to go on are these photographs).
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Fine ..... then these photos I guess don't do anything for you either:
http://www.towleroad.com/2010/01/cri...ni-photos.html Jeez you people are sick, sick, sick. ;) |
I'm not sick, but after looking at those pix I do have a fever... :evil:
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Yup..... I left the Democratic Party early last year :)
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So-is this the end of DADT? Is it possible that all men and women who want to serve their country will be able to do so and be true and honest about who they are?
If so? About time-:snap: Did anyone else see Cindy and Meghan McCain's pics for the Prop 8 campaign? Thought these were awesome. |
Please forgive the cynicism (sorry Coco), but I'll believe it when I see it. We've heard this promise before and look where that got us.
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Too scrawny for my taste; but he does have a cute face.
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A gay male figure skater? Now I've seen everything.
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Except Evan Lysacek isn't gay.
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A straight male figure skater? Now I've seen everything.
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Straights. They're everywhere now. Straight pride. Straight parades. I would be fine with it if they weren't so in your face with their straightness.
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He's so straight, I bet he married a Playboy model like Jeff Garcia and Mike Piazza did.
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Can I vote for myself? Logan's hot.
(Ok, he's just a sim. But that's one step better than any action I'm currently getting, which is also pretty sim stim.) ****** In better news, the SCOTUS just refused to consider a last-ditch appeal attempt that sought to stop Washington D.C. from issuing same-sex marriage licenses starting tomorrow! W00t! Gay couples can get married in D.C. as early as this weekend. WooHoo! |
The Sydney Gay & Lesbian Mardi Gras was on last saturday.
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He's STRAIGHT???
Straight men in figure skating... what happened to the moral fabric of society? ;-P Next thing you know they'll want to be interior decorators too. Hairdressers, stylists... is nothing sacred? |
Something tells me that this CA state senator just had it coming.
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It sure would be nice if a representative really was voting "...the way constituents in his district wanted him to vote."
But he is still a schmuck. |
In my best Beverly Leslie, "Well, well, well...!"
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You Belong With Me - Original Taylor Swift version (for reference)
You Belong With Me - Same-sex crush version Same-Sex You Belong With Me, a capella live (the aforementioned video was made to accompany the live performance) be sure to stick around for the zinger at the end |
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Mississippi school cancels prom because lesbian couple would have attended
John Green of Nerdfighters just tweeted an offer to begin a fundraiser to throw an inclusive prom for the school. When details come I'll post them. |
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This just in: Obama orders Dept. of Health and Human services to see to it that hospitals in America not be allowed to deny visitation rights to partners of gay and lesbian patients.
Wow. I was just badmouthing the president earlier today. Maybe I should lay off that for a while. Or ... do it more often. |
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Yep, I'm cautiously optimistic on this. Obama's big with words, poor with action. This memo, as worded, can only be enforced by the federal government - even if the regulations asked for are actually enacted. That means if a hospital keeps me in the waiting room while my boyfriend chokes to death on his own blood, there's nothing I can do about it.
Plus, oh I such a cynic, Obama's making an appearing Monday here in L.A. to promote Barbara Boxer's reelection campaign - and there's a big protest planned for his inaction on "fierce advocate" gay rights. With ENDA and DADT before Congress right now, and nothing but words from the president on either so far ... this might just be another Easter Egg roll to mollify the queers. I will wait and see. But it's nice, as far as it goes. |
A judge strikes down Arkansas' ban on unmarried (i.e., gay) adoption, ruling it unconstitutional.
Guess we can go back to the experiment of picking up stray orphans like they was puppies in your state, eh Mike Shmuckabee?? |
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Meanwhile, he accomplished asking for visitation rights with the stroke of his pen. What took Mr. Fierce Advocate so long? Could timing be an issue? Will timing be important when it comes time to enforce violations of these as-yet unwritten regulations? Because no one will have standing to enforce them except the federal government. If Hawaii General Hospital wants to keep distraught Mr. Cricket separate from dying Mr. Cricket, there's nothing either Mr. Cricket could do about it. |
I know enough cops to aid in getting my life partner, Mr. Gyllenhaal, to my death bed.
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Me and my better half Mr. Kwanten (you can call him Ryan) hope it won't come to that, and that you and Jake live a long and happy life together (and will help us decide if Steve Kwanten or Ryan Zlick sounds better, or if we should hyphenate).
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Interesting: Archie Comics 1st Gay character debut
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To me, the bigger surprise was that Archie is still being produced. Nonetheless, good for them!
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Heheh, that was my reaction, too. But good on them, and Kevin's a cutie.
(of course, less than fantastically attractive gay characters are decades away, but it's nice that there are more and more gay characters everywhere - including comics that peaked 6 decades ago.) |
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Gay Dog Refused Entry to Restaurant
A RESTAURANT in a northwest suburb of Adelaide that refused a blind man entry because it thought his guide dog was "gay" was ordered by the Equal Opportunity Tribunal to pay him $1500. The (Adelaide) Sunday Mail said Ian Jolly, 57, was barred from dining at the Thai Spice restaurant in May 2009 after a staff member mistook his guide dog Nudge for a "gay dog," a tribunal heard this week. A statement given by restaurant owners Hong Hoa Thi To and Anh Hoang Le said one of the restaurant's waiters said that Mr Jolly's partner Ms Chris Lawrence stated "she wanted to bring a gay dog into the restaurant." To read the story, click here  |
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Seems that Riverdale High is where the gay action is nowadays.
Or rather, it's high schools across the South that have become the center of the gay rights movement this graduation season. There's the lesbian who wanted to take her girlfriend to their Mississippi prom. The school didn't have any basis to ban them from attending - so they cancelled the prom!. The girl sued, and a judge found the school acted improperly - but didn't award any damages because a private prom was being arranged, which the girls were invited to. Little did they know that the private prom was a ruse and a trick. When the girls got there, it turned out to be a short-bus prom with only 7 other unpopular and special-ed kids in attendance, while the rest of the senior class had a SECRET private prom that same night at an undisclosed location. A week or so later, a gay guy in (Tennessee or Alabama? - I forget) wanted to take his date to the prom, and the school said "sure." Wow, what a difference. Oh, except his parents kicked him out of the house for being gay (or rather for getting so much publicity about being gay), and now he's homeless. Nice. Yesterday, again in Mississippi, a school removed all mention of a graduating lesbian student from their yearbook. She wore a tuxedo in the school picture. They said they would not run the photo because it violated their dress code, but they went further and removed all mention of her in the yearbook - despite that she's an honor's student involved in a ton of activities and teams. Meanwhile, kids who have been found guilty of drug offenses and kids who have dropped out & aren't even graduating remain in the yearbook. These incidents have riled the gay activist community. We don't like it when kids are picked on. Gay kids have a vastly higher suicide rate than straight kids, so we don't take bullying lightly - and we don't take school discrimination well at all. :mad: Pfft, we should have let the Confederacy go their own way when we had the chance. I'm sure there are millions of nice people there, and the South has a well-deserved reputation for politeness and charm. It also has a well-deserved reputation for bigotry and backwardness. I hope every gay kid unfortunate enough to grow up there finds a way to get the hell out. |
Funny or Die takes on DADT with puppets in No Strings Attached.
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Well, this is as good a place as any to post this. 'Cuz I ain't posting this on FB.
And now for today's episode of "TMI, GC!" My friends in the theatre community are getting geared up for the "Pirates 4" casting calls that are going on here. They are looking for "pirate-types" who are good at swordplay. One of my good friends is teaching pirate classes at a local theatre here to get guys boned up on their fencing skills. I just got hold of some of the rehearsal pics. All I can say is: HOT HOT HOT! And when one of them (all straight, dammit) said they would faux battle for my hand in marriage, I just about pitched a tent. Lordy, I gots da vapors. :D |
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Yep, I don't usually go for bearded guys, but he's got some look about him.
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"Counseling" is a much better and well-thought-out excuse than the original one, which was that the young twink was hired to handle Rekers' luggage following a back injury. That failed to fly when he gave it straightfaced within moments of him being photographed bustling with his own bags all through customs.
Much more believable that's he's been counseling the young man on his gay conversion science in an effort to redeem the lad from the evils of homosexual attraction, and has been counseling him for the last 10 days. In Spain. (A lot of comments on that linked site are puzzled by Reckers' attraction to this waif of a boy - which has led to the fortunate christening of the best hypocrite euphemism I've heard since "Hiking the Appalachian Trail" - namely, "Whatever Lifts Your Luggage." Bwahaahaha. :D |
Colbert made Rekers his Alpha Dog of the Week
Leno got in a few jabs Tuesday night (just after the seven minute mark) Towle Road's full coverage Watching an evangelical fall is better than eating Reese's Peanut Butter Cups while getting a blow job. |
Yep, was just gonna post that the rent-boy, Jo-Vanni speaks out.
This story just keeps getting better and better. Click the link there (also to Towleroad) to read about the details of Rekers', ahem, preferences. Nothing to do with lifting luggage. Well, except that I'll be calling my junk my luggage from now on, so maybe Rekers was just a self-fulfilling prophet. Bill McCullum, a candidate for governor of Florida, has had his campaign facebook page shut down because it was flooded with demands for answers and accountability over his payment to Rekers of $87,000 for testimony against gay adoption. And lest we forget that Rekers recently adopted a 16-year old boy. In this one case, I tend to believe Rekers' testimony that teen boys adopted by gay parents face risk of molestation. Methinks he knows himself pretty well. <<shudder>> Oh, and Jo-Vanni's a total cutie. I'm glad he came forward and did the right thing. I think I'll farm all my household chores out to kind folks at rentboy.com. ;) |
He adopted the 16 year old 4 years ago. The son is now 20 - the same age as Reker's boy-toy. To me, that makes it even more tawdry and increases the ick factor.
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The Rekers story has given me an ear-to-ear smile for many days, but some inevitably sad aspects are surfacing.
First, the story of the family that Rekers tried to break up with his $87,000 paid testimony against the 10-years that saved these boys lives. Rekers said the boys would get over being ripped apart from their dads within a year. My friend Rob Tisinai has posted a relevant tale from the trial transcripts here on his blog. Bring a hankie. Then, some snippets from a very recent telephone conversation between Rekers and his rent boy, Jo-Vanni. The kid is clearly distressed and in over his head, and Rekers is clearly a disgusting manipulator, out to save his own ass at all costs, and admits he's done this kind of thing before. Perhaps instead of Baptist preacher/fraudulent ex-gay therapist, he should have chosen Roman Catholic priest as his career if he was so set on ruining the lives of young men while ensconced in a self-loathing closet. Check it out here, at Towleroad. Wow .... and just wow. |
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And, inevitably, /second male prostitute comes forward to say he'd been hired by Rekers in the past. D'uh.
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White House transmittal of Defense Budget to Congress Does Not Include Repeal of “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell”
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I feel ya' Scrooge. But I'm finding it harder and harder to get worked up about these "set backs". I'm starting to come to the conclusion that honesty and straight forwardness in this process is an impossibility. It sucks, it's miserable, and the anger at it is justified. But I really believe that the truth of the matter is that if Obama tomorrow signed the necessary executive order, the path to integration would actually become that much harder.
Even if every top military official were on board, the fact is that there remains a lot of things that need to be addressed before it happens. There will be resistance, it will be ugly. The military does NOT deal in chaos. They are not going to just open the door and see what happens. They want to have a plan, they want to be ready to absorb the backlash, and adjust the "culture" on their terms. And so the charade goes on. I can get myself no more worked up about it than I get about anything regarding the military. It is what it is. I truly believe that privately and internally they are preparing for the inevitability. But until they're ready to go, it's a matter of the devil they know vs. the devil they don't know. I'm convinced that their thinking is, "We're going to have to put a lot of time and effort into successfully integrating gays into the military. We'd much rather spend as much of that time and effort in a status-quo mode. We've been dealing with the "Repeal DATD!" anger for years and can continue it for a little longer. We do not want to try to plan for the major changes we foresee AND deal with a whole new form of anger, from within and without." And as soon as anything concrete happens, like legislation passing, that shift is going to happen. They're going to have to deal with unrest from the ranks, from veterans, and unrest from a different segment of civilian population. I'm not happy that this is the situation. I certainly wish honesty would work, that the country could just be fvcking adults about it. And perhaps Obama should catch sine flack for promising something he can't publicly admit to working towards. But, I do believe progress is being made, and I don't feel like my anger, protests, letters are going to alter the course any at this point. |
The country is surprisingly "adult," about it, GD. 70% in support of repealing DADT. Um, I don't think there's been 70% support of anything in this nation's history, except maybe abolishing the IRS. ;)
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I am not a Democrat.
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Tomorrow, Saturday, May 22 - is California's First Official HARVEY MILK Day.
Yes, it's now a legal holiday in California, in honor of the famed, slain civil rights leader.  So, if you'd like to join in the inaugural celebration, come on out to Olvera Street* for a wonderful Coming Out Party. Completely in the spirit of Harvey Milk, we'd like everyone to Come Out, Come Out, Wherever You Are. Special Guests, a Robust Rally, Everyone Comes Out, and a march to the nearby Federal Building. What could be more Harvey Milkery?? The actual location is Father Serra Park, between Olvera Street and Union Station. |
Congratulations and in the spirit of equality gays so certainly deserve I will treat this day as I do all days in honor of specific individuals.
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Wish I were in LA for this holiday, SF's plan are surprisingly lame.
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Eh, events in L.A. were toned down as well. I got involved with this effort because no one else was planning anything (and mostly got un-involved when even the thrown-together plans got too dry).
If I hadn't been quasi-involved with the early states of the effort, I would never have heard of it. So I hope some people have, and show up. |
In the OC, there's an AIDS Walk on Saturday (worthy cause, but not exciting) and a Milk-style Canvass on Sunday. I do dig the idea of canvassing on Milk day in hostile territory, same way he did. It's what Dustin Lance Black, screenwriter on Milk, advocates, so I'm sure at least a few people will be out there knocking on American flag-laden doorways.
As much as I'd like to participate, I'm not sure if a straight person is the right one to do the knocking - the whole point is to show them that gay people are normal human beings. We're also rather busy this weekend. Totally didn't know it was Milk day. |
There's a hostile-territory canvass in L.A., too - with all those people coming to the rally afterwards. Should be very Milkian.
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I've never seen it. And I'm in no rush to see Sex and the City 2.
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Repealing DADT gets a thumbs up from a Senate committee and the House today. :)
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oh, ok ... whew. You're pretty darn gay, after all.
Glad I'm safe. For a minute there, I was wondering if your current cowboy avatar would continue to give me the vapors. |
I have never seen a full episode of SatC nor either film nor do I have any real desire to do so.
I'm fairly sure I'm still gay, but it's been a while, so who knows.... |
Oh, see, I loved the series, but the first movie left me 'meh' (and I didn't rush out to see it in theaters ... I'll likely Netflix this one also - - - once I'm used to seeing something on TV, I think that's where I like it).
As for Glee, I hear the second season went downhill - but it might be one of those series I check out on DVD sometime in the future. |
I know what you meant since the lengthy middle break is becoming more common, but Glee is still in its first season.
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Huh? I don't watch the show, but I've heard so many complaints from people who do that the second season is not as good as the first. And since I seem to remember people watching the first season well over a year ago, whatever break that was - was, assuming my recollection of time is correct (quite the hefty assumption) - means this is the de facto second season no matter what they're calling it.
Either way, I'm not yet convinced it's worth my time. |
The pilot aired May of last year...but then the series didn't start airing again until September. There was a break between January and April, then the final episode of season 1 will air June 8.
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ok, well, a rose by any other name. Its comeback was advertised by Fox (around the corner from me) as they would a new series or new season, and everyone I know who watches the show is calling it that. So whatever.
I kinda shy away from gay "must-see" stuff. I hear the pandering gay wedding that opens Sex in the City 2 is a tone-deaf mess. The one scene I've seen from Glee (a dad over-the-top defending his gay son against a careless insult by a high school friend) was so After-School-Special that I'm not inspired to check out more - no matter how many stunt gay-icon music casting coups they score. |
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We just saw "Another Gay Movie" :eek:
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Is that code for Sex and the City 2, or is there an actual film with that title?
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Another Gay Movie - Caution: movie NSFW and NSFS (Not Safe For Straights)
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That movie is cute and silly, and I'd imagine it to be a good movie if you were a) stoned or b) coming down off of something.
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Wow, I didn't expect this AWESOME news to result from this tragic story:
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What do you mean iSm?
According to TowleRoad, "The theme for the ad campaign is "Come As You Are" as the restaurant chain seeks to emphasize that their customers are free to be themselves." I thought it was pretty cool of McD's to show that. Can you imagine the fundie shïtstorm that would arise if that were shown in the US? |
"McDonald's: Come as you are but stay closeted with your dad."
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I see how one could interpret it that way, but that's not the message I got.
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Gay KLM stewards want to avoid Iran
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Sorry, SM, but I got the exact same message as Alex. A kid who's afraid to come out to his dad. Bad message.
What the frell does "come as you are" have to do with McDonald's? What, did they discriminate against gays in the past? Has anyone, anywhere on the world ever felt for a split second that they could not go into a freaking McDonald's? That message makes No Sense Whatsoever ... so I'm left with the actual events of the ad, which shows a gay boy who happens to be eating at McDonald's resisting yet another opportunity to come out of the closet to one of his parents. Great stuff. Closeted gays make me so hungry for french fries. So, I repeat - WTF??? |
As for the Iranian issue, KLM should outright HALT fights to anyplace where it is a threat to the lives of their employees for them to spend a layover.
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Have there been any incidents of violence, intimidation, or other mistreatment of gay flight attendants in Iran or it is a more general fear knowing that homosexuality it criminalized (in which case Iran should not be unique).
I can understand from KLMs persepctive why making such exceptions is difficult. Maybe they can find a market solution. Put routes up for auction with the flight attenandants. The more who want a route the lower the pay for the route so the non-stop to St. Thomas is worked minimum wage but a premium is paid for Novosibirsk (and, presumably Tehran) |
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I can totally understand why they wouldn't want that particular route...
And I agree that every decision need not be based on money. I suspect that Iran is more than happy not to have gay flight attendants on the flights from/to their country. I wonder if they'd be happy to see KLM stop flying there. |
How dare you impugn my patriotism! My soul is a red as the waxy coat on a delicious New York Gouda, as white as a beautiful Vermont Cheddar, and as blue as an artisanal blue cheese from Wisconsin.
That said, there are some people with whom I won't do business. I suppose it's different when your company is "owned" by soulless computers doing stock trades in increments of minutes. |
Out singer Matt Zarley's new video "Had I Known"
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No big fan of O'Reilly but I don't think he was comparing gays to al Qaeda. I think it was a very specific play on the comment immediately prior that the ad was part of a larger campaign showing all kinds of people going to McDonald's with the tagline "come as you are" and him riffing on whether they really want everybody to go to McDonald's and express who they are.
What I find odd is his absolute certainty that no ad like this would ever run in the U.S. I assume he means because it is gay-themed. If he's right, I hope it is because it is just a stupid ad (regardless of the gay theme). |
I agree that, for once, O'Reilly wasn't gaybashing with his al Qaeda remark. He most definitely was, however, saying the ad would never play in the U.S. because of its gay theme. In that, he was gaybashing. And I'm sure he would, despite his purported business-freedom-uber-alis philosophy, bash McDonald's if it ever deemed it salesworthy to run such a gay-themed ad in these here united states.
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I'm not getting the overall positiveness of the ad. Is the father affirming in an understated way that he knows his son is gay and is encouraging him to tom around?
As for O'Reilly, he may not directly be comparing gays to al Qaeda, but it seems like these things don't get taken to such extremes except when gay or other minority issues are being promoted. |
Would a mod be kind enough to put a "]" before "Bill" on post 424 please? The edit window has passed and I can't fix it myself.
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So... I turned on the TV this afternoon, and guess what came on?
The Women!!! I came in right when Mary "yanked the scalp off that Allen woman in the fitting room". :D |
I have another gay attorney working at my office and he still hasn't been on the train to Reno. I must let him borrow my DVD.
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Oh yeah! Good for you! I was afraid you were a wet firecracker, sister. Shake!
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NY Times article on increasing gay acceptance
Quoting the whole article because NY Times articles tend to sneak behind pay walls Spoilering only because it's long Spoiler:
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Come as you are...betch. :D
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ok, I'm not finding that particularly funny - except for the burrito part where he tells he bf on the phone that he was just thinking of him. Wishing he were that girthy, perhaps.
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GMCLA does The Cellblock Tango
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Check out what young Rep. Aaron Schock (R) - who insists he's not gay - wore to a White House BBQ.
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That really is one of the gayest ensembles in recent memory. And yes, the fact that I was at GAY PRIDE LOS ANGELES today is included in that.
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Gaydar going off!
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Stonewall Uprising
A documentary called Stonewall Uprising, about the event that sparked the modern Gay Rights movement, just opened into limited release. I can't wait to see it.
Trailer Official Site Advocate interview with one of the filmmakers |
Oh and another movie (speaking of gay) that was AWESOME is the documentary about Joan Rivers that was released last week. It was playing at the Arclight:Hollywood, but may have been released to more theatres this weekend.
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Bah, no time to see any movies. I need alerts when these things are Netflixable, not when released to theaters. Pfft, theaters are so 20th Century.
In other gay news ... was it my imagination or prejudice, but didn't the sum-up of the Prop 8 federal case yesterday demonstrate the other side has, um, NOTHING??? |
It doesn't matter if the enemies of equality have nothing or everything. This case and all like it will be decided on the belief system(s) of the people making the decisions. That could mean this one judge or nine judges in DC.
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Oh, I have no doubt in my mind the Supremes will rule against, but little doubt that Walker will rule in favor --- and I'm just gonna be amused at the furor.
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Sam Seder on the recent upholding of the gay blood ban.
Occasionally uses the word "bullshït". |
About the gay blood ban, I was reading somewhere that apparently you cannot donate your OWN gay blood, for your own use. Is this true?
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I donated my own blood before I had my surgery 21 years ago.
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I found the quote on that, it was from someone on towleroad:
"What's so bad is we can't even donate blood for our OWN use. I had to have a minor surgery recently, and just in case I donated blood for my personal use during the surgery. I've done this before and it has never been an issue. Go in early, donate the blood, and if I need it it's there. No chance of rejection, it's the right type, and no strain on the blood supply. This time though, I was told that those rules applied even if I was donating for myself. So, basically, blood I donated for personal use was a danger to myself because I have had sex with a man in my lifetime. Medical morons." Very odd. |
Yeah, I read that, too - and was astounded. So just be sure to lie if you want to save your own life.
This is so stupid. They screen all blood anyway. Yes, gay men CAN give blood. Just deny having slept with a man. They take your word for it. Even if you're wearing a powder blue belt. ;) |
If they don't want my blood, fine. But they better hand over someone else's when I need it. Snap snap! That's how they want things to be... fine! And while you're at it, fight for my country for me. Thanks!
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In recognition of this horrible policy Jehovah's Witnesses have announced an act of solidarity and will reject all blood transfusions, regardless of the risk to themselves, at least until such time as gay men (or once drunk straight men) are allowed to donate blood.
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I'm copying the entire article because the page it's on is a gay porn site. I have attempted to included all the formatting and links, including the one you don't want to click on at work.
--------------------------------------------------------------- Mostly Straight/A Little Gay: A Sexual Boundary’s Slow Erosion (VERY NSFW!!!) by Shawn Baker I've never needed enemies. The Right truly craves monsters—Black Gestapos, Feminist Valkyries, Mexican Marauders, and Homo Hoydens—that it can rail against and use as foils to define itself. Good must have an Evil flipside, otherwise everything becomes confoundingly relative. If it can't find antagonists, it just conjures them up and insists it's being lied to by a world that can't be twisted and shaped to meet its needs. Personally, I can live just fine without an antipode to define myself, and I'd argue that the gay community by and large is happy to be without them, too. When our families prove to be draining on us and remain obdurate to the realities of our lives, we walk away. I'd wager most of us who work in mixed work places are careful how much we reveal about ourselves for fear of running afoul of someone who's going to make it their personal mission to run us out. If every fire and brimstone televangelist, fat shock jock, and blonde values whore went extinct tomorrow, there would be no retroactive falsification that would kick in and cause us to admit that they weren't so bad to have around. They were, and it sucked. Despite the efforts of the Vatican, NOM, and every other organization with the words "American," "Family," "Values," or "Truth" in their title, the Gay—despite its supposed onslaught upon every good and true American institution—is seeming that much less monstrous as of late when encountered outside the pulpit and the voting booth. The reason? Charles M. Blow's New York Times op-ed on the eroding of anti-gay sentiment comes down to one salient and unifying factor: visibility. Gays are no longer the creepy, leering pervs of '50s scare films or the deluded married men busted in vice stings on the evening news; they're parents, classmates, siblings, neighbors, and co-workers. Just as vital is the simultaneously hilarious/stomach-turning revolving gamut of Conservative outings that now play like flailing, high-camp '60s French comedies of manners. The spectacular fall of George Rekers absolutely thunders with fallout, reverberating out as it not only decimated his career as a burly straightener-out of sissy boys, but also pulled down the curtain on the Prop 8 defense, whose cadre of "experts" are astonishingly credential-free. If men like Rekers—who either cynically marketed clinical snake oil all these years or just couldn't make his own program work for himself—are outright fronting to the world, why should anyone bother to take their product seriously? How many Republicans have to pratfall out of the closet before the public at large starts to see being gay as something that can't be undone by tossing a football around? Will people finally get wise to the fact that there are no ex-gays, only celibate eunuchs? It took all of five seconds for the phrase "lift his luggage"—shades of "wide stance"—to become instant code for closeted sex-trolling, and that's exemplary of how transparent and self-deluded these types have become. Representation is key here; it's the shame of invisibility that breeds the worst contempt. It's harder to marginalize someone who isn't a faceless boogeyman, and with increased presence in media in particular, a legitimacy ensues. Consider one of the most problematic of gay figures for hetero culture: the sissy. Mike Albo's The Twinkle Takeover from New York Magazine rechristens the nancy boy and redefines him as as a "Twinkle" not so inclined to have his stars dimmed: Quote:
It's youth that's integral in spurring a shift away from the prejudices of yore. Wizened, obsolete members of our population are the most concerned with maintaining "definitions" (code for "boundaries"), and it's to them I inquire: did you really need separate dining establishments in order to have a stable self-definition? Does using a restroom really have to be a privilege that you lord over someone else so you can feel secure? As younger members of the military seem over the whole DADT debate already, their commanders are the ones hand-wringing over how to implement change. How else do you do it other than implement it? It's like talking about swimming. At stake here is the Gay/Straight divide itself, and all classist fears essentially come down to the same dread: that established barriers will dissipate if people are allowed to become too familiar (notice how gay sex for Conservatives is always a "slip" à la going off a diet for a tempting dessert). Mark Simpson predicts accordingly: Quote:
A few months ago I was in the back of a car stopped at a light. Some (obviously straight) hot pieces were loitering around the curb, and just for the hell of it, I rolled down the window, pulled out a few bills, and said "Hey! Fifty bucks for the little one!". The other guys in the car with me looked at me like I was crazy, and I was ready to duck back in if things got physical, but instead the loiterers started laughing, and better yet, began lifting their tanks and arching their asses at me the more I goaded them on and flashed more green. What should've led to an all-out tussle between opposing factions culminated with my side driving away and laughing hysterically while the sidewalk studs flexed and teased us in the rear-view. If Simpson is on to something, then our spectrum of human sexuality may be organically broadening through close contact, with self-identifiers like "mostly straight," and conversely, "a little gay," slowly beginning to blur the Great Divide as men become a bit more inclined to cross it without feeling as if they've leapt over a point of no return. |
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Regardless of the sentiment in the whole essay that penultimate paragraph is really quite sad and indicates I probably wouldn't care for the author in person.
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The headline of this blog post overstates by a smidgen the heinousness of the official Texas GOP platform...but ONLY by a smidgen.
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Yeah the Texas GOP basically wants a Theocracy. I've been saying it for years -- if they want to secede from the Union, then more power to 'em! Honestly, I think they'd even view someone like Reagan as a dirty commie liberal.
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A five month old running the place really couldn't do much worse of a job than the current government.
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LOL! I heart u guys.
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A Theo-cracy wouldn't be too bad. Milk and fresh diapers for all, state-mandated Peek-a-boo sessions twice a day, and the ABCs would be the national anthem.
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Check out this video of an ""ex-gay"" (in double quotes because of its overwhelming redonkulousness) talking about the "sin" of homosexuality.
Where to begin....
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I am pretty sure it is a parody. It's gotta be.
The reason for the confusion of whether it is or isn't a parody is good ol' Poe's Law. If it isn't a parody (and there is evidence that it isn't one too, check out the guy's web site, which is pretty elaborate if it is just a parody), then he's a pretty sick cookie. Like, "Carrie's Mother" crazy. I can see your dirty pillows! I like the title that Towleroad put on this one, something along the lines of "Does my Gold-Flecked Ascot Make Me Look Ex-Gay?" |
But look at the site it "advertises". That looks pretty legit.
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Something possessed BJ to shave his chest two days ago, so he's more of a porcupine. Blech!
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Porcupine Pie, Porcupine Pie, Porcupine Pie Vanilla Soup, a double scoop please.... No Maybe I won't, maybe I will, maybe I'll have the tutti fruit, with fruity blue cheese Ah but Porcupine Pie, Porcupine Pie, Porcupine Pie don't let it get on your jeans And though it sounds a little strange but you gotta eat it with gloves or your hands will turn green Ah but porcupine pie, porcupine pie, porcupine pie weaves its way through my dreams I do believe I'm gonna try some and leave enough room for dessert, the chicken ripple ice cream. |
another gay French ad
This time it's a gay cougar using Orangina as aftershave. |
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I think it's just poor wording on the part of the GLAAD. There's nothing to evidence The View used "down low" in any other way but descriptively.
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I THINK they don't mean that "down low" is itself offensive, I THINK they are just trying to explain that "men who secretly have sex with men" is what Hughley meant by "on the down low" in the offending quote. Because what he says is not immediately clear.
A better way of saying it would have been, "...communicated misinformation about the spread of AIDS, placing blame on men who have sex with men but publicly identify as heterosexual, which Hughley referred to as 'on the down low'." ETA: Hmm, I read a little further...Shepherd went one step further and said, "Down low is black men who've been going out." In that regard, that's a pretty sh*tty use of the term "down low" and is rightfully pointed out. I don't think the phrase was PREVIOUSLY offensive, but if Sheperd wants to define it that way, then yeah, that use of it is offensive. |
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that exactly what "down low" is? I thought it was Black men* who identify as straight but secretly have sex with men without telling their wives/girlfriends.
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Hey, I learned what "down low" is from an episode of Law & Order: SVU years ago. Did GLAAD protest then? If not then I'm in the camp of thinking their wording was unclear over exactly what they're upset about.
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure "on the down low" is the phrase used by (African American) men who claim to be straight, but secretly fool around with men. Learned that one from The Starter Wife ;)
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Ummm, and here I thought all this time I was just telling people to be discrete with the pipe. I seem to have been using that phrase very very incorrectly.
I was 100% unaware that, as you seem to be indicating, there was common use of it as a euphemism specifically for that. I had always heard and used it as a generic idiom to indicate doing anything discretely. Knowing that bit of information...I star to agree with GLAAD, it comes across as derogatory to me. Maybe people "in the know" do use it in non-derogatory ways, but coming out of the mouths people who are clearly trying to ignorantly paint those "on the down low" as the primary problem in the fight against AIDS, it crosses a line. Although I do agree that if that is what they're on about, while I might agree on principle, I do think it's not high on the priority list of things to criticize the idiots about. They could use the nicest, most flowery terms they damn well please, it wouldn't change the fact that they're trying to blame AIDS on closeted black homosexuals. |
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Maybe Elizabeth Hasselback, but I don't really think D.L. Hughley would fall into that category.
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Tobacco use high in lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender community
The only thing I find surprising about this article is that the rates aren't higher. Almost all of my LGBTQQI...LMNOP acquaintances smoke. |
I think gay men like to have something cylindrical in their mouths.
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They like it too, it is just they have fewer options so it is more likely to be cigarettes.
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Louis CK Poker scene which discusses use of the word "faggot".
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Haven't seen the details but apparently a Massachusetts court has ruled part of DOMA unconstitutional.
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Actually, there have - as I understand it - been two federal court rulings against DOMA today.
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Good. DOMA needs to go away.
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