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BarTopDancer 04-14-2005 10:20 AM

Executions by Lethal Injection May Not Be Humane
 
Here is the story.

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Lethal injection involves sequential administration of sodium thiopental for anesthesia, pancuronium bromide to induce paralysis, and then potassium chloride to stop the heart and cause death. If anesthesia wasn't used, the condemned prisoner would suffocate and experience excruciating pain without being able to move.
I'm not sure how I feel about the death penalty in general; however it baffles me why we're so concerned that murders, who probably didn't care about the pain and fear their victims felt have a painless death.

Ghoulish Delight 04-14-2005 10:23 AM

Well, I read this somewhere once...

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Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

Nephythys 04-14-2005 10:51 AM

Throwing the Constitution at us does no good....

Cutting off ears as punishment was not considered cruel and unusual by Constituional law- does it make right? No, but it does not make it UN-Constitutional.

Ghoulish Delight 04-14-2005 10:58 AM

She asked why it's a concern. It's a concern because of that ammendment. It is the only answer to her question.

Prudence 04-14-2005 11:04 AM

The Constitution is not a static document. Slavery was once constitutional. Limiting voting rights to free, white, male landowners was once constitutional. The eighth amendment may not be interpreted today the same way it was in 1791. I hardly think that renders the Constitution worthless.

Cadaverous Pallor 04-14-2005 11:33 AM

Ugh. Yet another issue where it's all about the visuals.

It's been maintained for a long time that the guilloutine is among the most humane of killings because it's basically instantaneous. But since chopping off someone's head seems so grody, we need to inject them with chemicals so we can't see the death happening. Lordy.

I'm still undecided on the death penalty, but I believe this: If we are going to kill people, let's at least do it quickly.

Not Afraid 04-14-2005 12:01 PM

YEAH! Bring back the guilloutine!

This sentence sort of make this issue moot:

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If anesthesia wasn't used, the condemned prisoner would suffocate and experience excruciating pain without being able to move.
But anesthesia IS used, so what's the point?

Baileykat 04-14-2005 12:33 PM

Glad you posted this BTD!


I'm sorry...I always think the punishment should fit the crime! You kill someone in cold, heartless murder...you don't deserve to have the protection of the Constitution in regards to your death! Did your victim have a "nice, painless, death"? And often times, I think death is too easy! Prison is too easy! Suffering is not! Your victim suffered, you need to suffer as well!

Bring back public stoneings and hanging! :evil:

No this is not a Pro-Death Penalty rant (ok maybe a little!)..it just kinda rubbed me the wrong way to read that in the paper this morning... :(

Ghoulish Delight 04-14-2005 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Not Afraid
But anesthesia IS used, so what's the point?

The point is that some evidence is showing that anesthesia has not been used properly.

Not Afraid 04-14-2005 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight
The point is that some evidence is showing that anesthesia has not been used properly.

Well, then, the "death Eaters" need to be re-trained.


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