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SzczerbiakManiac 03-27-2012 06:09 PM

Nutbag claims Obama Backs "Forced Abortion Funding" & "Forced Homosexuality"
 
from rightwingwatch.org
The link above contains the audio recording of the conversation as well as a transcript which I have included below. The emphasis is mine.
Quote:

Schneider: Last Friday the Obama administration announced some new rules that now would require colleges and universities to provide their student health care plans covering female students in the US, that they would have to include coverage for free voluntary sterilization surgery and then also said that further women of college age who don’t attend college, don’t attend school, they also would get this free sterilization coverage whether they are insured through an employer, their parents, some form of government subsidized plan. Mat, how much further is this going to go?

Staver: What we have is a president and an administration that he has gathered that is the most radical, ideologically-driven administration in American history and the ideology is very much pro-abortion and pro-homosexual rights and that trumps everything, it seems to trump the economy, it trumps national security. Of all the myriad of things that the president and the administration could be working on to make America a better place, to bring more jobs and so forth, they are working on these kinds of micromanagement things to push a very radical agenda that is anti-life and anti-liberty. It’s to not just satisfy the radical fringe that supports this administration but it is to satisfy the ideology that comes with this administration, it is part and parcel of what they believe and who they are. In terms of where the end is, nothing should shock anybody at this stage in terms of where this will be going. It is in-your-face forced abortion funding, in-your-face forced homosexuality and in-your-face a deconstruction of moral principles.
I can sorta kinda almost see his point about forced abortion funding, but forced homosexuality!?! How does a person come to that conclusion? Are people really that out of touch with reality?

alphabassettgrrl 03-27-2012 06:17 PM

Most doctors won't sterilize a woman of typical college age. I believe the standard is under 35 and unmarried = not gonna get the surgery.

And how can people pushing for forced, unnecessary medical procedures complain about government intervention? And passing laws that require doctors to lie about abortion causing breast cancer?

Ghoulish Delight 03-27-2012 06:18 PM

Sigh.

After reading the NOM disclosures today all I can think is I wonder who set this outrageous accusation in motion so that all the tools can play their kabuki parts, responding with the expected outrageous response, so that we can all be happy that we feel superior to those that disagree with us.

alphabassettgrrl 03-27-2012 07:44 PM

As opposed to dealing with our differences in any kind of rational way. Both sides demonize the other, which goes nowhere.

Kevy Baby 03-27-2012 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alphabassettgrrl (Post 358800)
As opposed to dealing with our differences in any kind of rational way. Both sides demonize the other, which goes nowhere.

Yeah, and I am getting pretty sick of it. The posts from both sides on Facebook are getting ridiculous

JWBear 03-27-2012 09:45 PM

I'm sorry, but calling out the far right insanity for what it is is not "demonizing", it's telling the truth. I'm so tired of that false equivalency. Yes, some on the left have said some horrible things, but it doesn't number even 1% of the bat-sh!t crazy nastiness coming from the right.

Alex 03-27-2012 09:46 PM

God, I hope we have an agenda of forced deconstruction of moral principals. We could use a lot more of that.

Kevy Baby 03-27-2012 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JWBear (Post 358803)
I'm sorry, but calling out the far right insanity for what it is is not "demonizing", it's telling the truth. I'm so tired of that false equivalency. Yes, some on the left have said some horrible things, but it doesn't number even 1% of the bat-sh!t crazy nastiness coming from the right.

Hey JW: if you think the right is evil and the left are angels, then you are a blind, stupid dumb-fvck. BOTH sides are guilty.

I shouldn't be making personal attacks. This post should have read:

Anyone who thinks the right is evil and the left are angels is a blind, stupid dumb-fvck. BOTH sides are guilty.

Morrigoon 03-27-2012 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alphabassettgrrl (Post 358800)
As opposed to dealing with our differences in any kind of rational way. Both sides demonize the other, which goes nowhere.

Because if one side refused to engage, the other side would corner the market on stupid people, whose vote unfortunately carries the same weight as everyone else's.

(okay, not unfortunately in the sense that it is the very foundation of our nation's political philosophy, but unfortunately in the sense that it perpetrates this kind of political douchebaggery.)

Ghoulish Delight 03-27-2012 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JWBear (Post 358803)
I'm sorry, but calling out the far right insanity for what it is is not "demonizing", it's telling the truth. I'm so tired of that false equivalency. Yes, some on the left have said some horrible things, but it doesn't number even 1% of the bat-sh!t crazy nastiness coming from the right.

Go read the NOM strategy against gay marriage. They are BANKING on people coming out swinging against the far right insanity. They know damn well that if they prod people to say outrageous things on one side, it will result in people saying outrageous things on the other side, and create a national shouting match, which is exactly the environment that leads to extremists getting their way.


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