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Moonliner 12-02-2006 07:01 PM

Chemist advice needed....
 
Any chemists out there?

I need to create a reaction similar to the one you get when you mix vinegar with baking soda. However I need to create it using only dry powders.

It needs to be non-toxic in small quantities, stable over long durations (ie no dry ice), and not to expensive or hard to acquire.

Anyone have any ideas?

Ghoulish Delight 12-02-2006 07:13 PM

Define "similar". Is it release of CO2 that you're after?

Moonliner 12-02-2006 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight (Post 107994)
Define "similar". Is it release of CO2 that you're after?

CO2 is not important, I want the POP.

DisneyFan25863 12-02-2006 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moonliner (Post 107996)
CO2 is not important, I want the POP.

With foaming and bubbling and such?

Moonliner 12-02-2006 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DisneyFan25863 (Post 107998)
With foaming and bubbling and such?

I just want to mix A and B, seal it in a baggie or soda bottle and have it go pop like you can with vinegar and baking soda. I just don't want the liquid.

tracilicious 12-02-2006 08:09 PM

Um....whatcha doing Moonie?

Moonliner 12-02-2006 08:11 PM

Uhhhh..... nothing... :blush:

Just a little kid project, yeah that's it. Kids project. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. ;)

Not Afraid 12-02-2006 09:23 PM

I think you're just tryin to scare the hell out of Santa as he slides down your chimney.

lashbear 12-03-2006 12:28 AM

Can't do it without liquid. Sorry.

You could try mixing baking soda and citric acid powder in a baggie and then enclosing with it a little fragile container (mini-ziploc, wax-encased, small water balloon or similar) of water, then rupture the small bag, and watch it pop.

Alex 12-03-2006 09:35 AM

I can think of several essentially dry combinations that will provide pop but not in ways that wouldn't draw the attention of the ATF. At least not a chemical "pop" (read: explosion)

If you want to get pop by creating gas that overinflates a container that probably means a CO2 producing reaction since most of the other easily produced gasses are toxic (I'm assuming you don't want to end up with an ammonia cloud), and all I can think of still involve a liquid. I'd also think that if only dry components were involved the reaction would likely be too slow to produce a dramatic effect.


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