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Gemini Cricket 08-27-2007 09:40 AM

Budget Budge-it Budget
 
Does anyone have any good ideas about how to make your own household budget?
Any great formulas about how to pay down debt?
Money stuff drives me crazy.

Alex 08-27-2007 09:52 AM

Is it all credit card debt or do you have a significant form of some other debt as well?

MouseWife 08-27-2007 09:58 AM

Um, don't be like me.

Good to use only cash. Good not to buy things you really can't afford. If you are going to do so, try and get it on a plan where you don't have to pay interest {my son bought a t.v. for $1,800. and had 18 months interest free...of course, they only asked for a $10. a month payment...we've made him pay $100. a month...the accrued interest is almost $400., we'll get it paid off}.

Use coupons, when you can. Seriously. I don't use them much now, but, when I did, I saved so much.

Eat at home!!! Oh my gosh!! It is sooo expensive to eat out. That is one thing that really breaks our bank. And, it is more healthy for you, too.

Try and save something. This is really hard to do, I know, because I know I can't save sheit. But, it is good.

I wish I had the worksheet about how your money should go but it does save to save for all unexpected expenses. Like, for your auto, your medical, etc. Like, you know down the road you'll need a tune up, tires, etc. Put away for it so when it comes it isn't a big deal.

But, like I said. I suck at money management. I really loathe it. I'd done it for my dad for years when I was a teen but it was his money, and, ha, he had enough to pay his bills. LOL

Good luck, GC. I think the first step is the one you've taken~ knowing that you need to do it.

{I work and save all of my money to go on vacation.....real smart, eh?}

innerSpaceman 08-27-2007 10:04 AM

Here's my advice. As long as you can make ends meet, don't pay a lot of attention to your money situation. The more carefully you watch it and tend to it with an eye toward making it stretch and fit ... what you're really doing is keeping the thought active in your mind that you don't have enough money.

And sure enough, that's the feedback you will get from the universe. Not enough money.

You DO have enough money. You have a good job and a place to live and the means to eat, have some fun, pay the rent, and pay a little to your debt. Sweat the details less, with the confidence that you've got enough to go around ... and your universe feedback will be enough to go around.

If you master that process, and know you are bountiful ... then you will be.




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More practically, get your credit card debt spread out among a few low interest "promotional" rates. Some of these are for the "life-of-the-loan," which is very advantageous even if you have to pay a hundred dollar transfer fee to get your debt there.

Then pick the highest rate card and pay that down with as much spare cash as you can, while paying only the minimum on the other cards charging less interest. When that first card is down to a balance you can pay half of in one shot, continue to pay half of that card's balance every month until that debt is gone.

Then attack the next highest rate loan in the same way.


Don't worry that your debt will not be gonig solely in one downward direction. Life goes on. Health expenses, automobile expenses, and yes - even the fun of life - often require a dip into your credit debt.

The more credit debt you take on and make payments on, the more companies will send you offers for credit. This is the key to sifting out those advantageous promotional offers that come along only once in a while.

Don't freak out that you have credit card debt. It's the American Way!

Ghoulish Delight 08-27-2007 10:12 AM

If you really want to budget, the best thing to do is simply track everything you spend for 3 months. It's a simple exercise, you can do it by hand, put it in a simple spreadsheet, use Excel to do some graphing for you, or you can get as complex as using Quicken or Microsoft Money. The 3 month part is important because that will you get an idea of what your constant spending vs. one-time expenditures are. Having it all in front of you like that makes it much easier to see where your money is going and where you've got room to alter your habits.

innerSpaceman 08-27-2007 10:26 AM

And, with all due respect, I don't think you need get even that complex. Do you really need a spreadsheet to tell you what your discretionary spending items are?

If money's tight, then the tiny part of your expenses that are discretionary are movies & entertainment, eating out, your Disneyland AP, and pleasure travel gasoline. These are the only things you can cut back on.

If you get a roommate, you'll save a lot of money. If you can find a way to do without a car altogether, you'll save a ton of money.

Outside of changing those fixed and expensive expenses, trimming your discretionaries is your only option. Keep in mind, that sacrificing all pleasures is NOT a good idea, no matter how much in hock it keeps you.

3894 08-27-2007 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman (Post 158828)
sacrificing all pleasures is NOT a good idea, no matter how much in hock in keeps you.

*holding lighter high* Preach it. :snap:

MouseWife 08-27-2007 10:44 AM

I agree with that, iSm. Like I've told people on food diets, if you cut out everything, make everything bad, you'll end up like the guy in 'Chocolate'. {but darn it, not everyone knows what I mean when I say that....}

GD~ I get the tracking thing. Similar to an eating diary. I doesn't have to be a big deal, but, keeping track for a while, it makes you aware of where your money goes. Lets you see where you might be blowing it without even noticing it.

Argh, the car. That is currently our biggest expense. New male driver in the house. Bought him an older truck but it was still a gigantic leap in our insurance payment.

Back when the company offered it to the Hubster, he took the trolley as they paid for the monthly pass. Now, they don't, but he has a free parking spot. He also had riden his bike to work, that was a great way to save money but the traffic was becoming so dangerous, well, he drives.

What you said, iSm, that is true. If you always think you don't have money, that isn't really a good thing, either. It can hold you back from accomplishing things or having something simple that you think is out of your reach. That is how I think and it really sucks. But, I do the bills. Sometimes I've gone out of that 'box'. That is how he now drives a new car {for the first time in his life} and we have purchased some new appliances.

Ghoulish Delight 08-27-2007 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman (Post 158828)
Keep in mind, that sacrificing all pleasures is NOT a good idea, no matter how much in hock it keeps you.

I'm don't believe anyone's recommended that.

Winging it may work for you, and I personally don't track everything all the time. But spending 3 months tracking it helped me quite a bit. It's one thing to say you know where all your money goes and what you spend it on. It's another thing to see it all in front of you and have a good picture of it.

He's asking for help, winging it obviously isn't working for him. I thought I'd give him some advice to solve the problem he was asking for help with. Don't really know why you, Steve, feel the need to convince him that my advice is bad.

Cadaverous Pallor 08-27-2007 10:52 AM

Just like MW said - When we did our budget the most glaring thing was how much eating at home and brown-bagging your lunch saves you. Seriously. That's the best advice you'll get regarding saving money on a day-to-day basis.

Quote:

Originally Posted by iSm
Do you really need a spreadsheet to tell you what your discretionary spending items are?

Actually, I think so. It's hard to remember where all the money goes. Trying to remember all that will make you a nervous wreck. ("ok, so spent this and this and this, can I afford this dessert?"). It's also hard to figure out what's worth more to you. If you're able to look at the figures later and say "that night out was totally worth what I spent, but that thing I bought for fun was definitely not worth the cash," then you'll know where to cut your fun money.

You can't know what your budget should be if you'd don't get some real world data first.


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