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3894 12-29-2007 03:46 PM

If You Were Participating in the Iowa Caucuses
 
What are your thoughts on your favorite candidate? Why does s/he merit your vote?

Can your candidate win the national election? If not, will you vote your conscience at that time? Or do you think voting your conscience would be "throwing your vote away" and help the other candidate?

I can tell you about the actual Iowans in my husband's family. SIL and nephew like Dodd. MIL and FIL like Hilary.

scaeagles 12-29-2007 06:14 PM

If I could vote in the Iowa caucuses, I would kill myself because I lived in Iowa. However, that isn't the point of the thread.

I'm enthralled with no one at this point. Of course, I could never be enthralled with a dem, so I won't bother even mentioning any.

McCain? Not a conservative. Huckabee? Not a conservative. I think Thompson is a conservative, but I really haven't heard enough from him. Romney? Perhaps he is a conservative....but there are many things he did in Mass that I don't like. Guiliani? I guess he'd be my choice by default.

CoasterMatt 12-29-2007 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles (Post 182008)
If I could vote in the Iowa caucuses, I would kill myself because I lived in Iowa. However, that isn't the point of the thread.

Haha! That was exactly what I thought when I read the thread title

Cadaverous Pallor 12-29-2007 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles (Post 182008)
McCain? Not a conservative. Huckabee? Not a conservative.

I'm interested in why you don't think these people are conservatives.

scaeagles 12-29-2007 08:46 PM

Huckabee, from what I've read, is a social conservative (obviously), but is a tax and spender. I don't believe he is fiscally responsible and seems to be of the opinion that more money in the hands of the government is the best way to solve a problem.

McCain has two major strikes against him with me - the first being campaign finance reform, and the second being his lack of support for border enforcement. He is a senator of a border state that is literally being invaded but only saw the light when his campaign was virtually dead. I don't trust him on this issue in the least despite what he is saying now.

Being that my two of my biggest issues are fiscal responsibility and border control, those two guys just don't do it for me.

Edited to add: I also think Huckabee has been somewhat classless in his attacks on Romney's Mormon faith.

Cadaverous Pallor 12-29-2007 09:16 PM

Ok, I see why you don't like them, but those issues don't disqualify them as conservatives, IMHO.

As for the OP, if I were in Iowa, I'd be grumbling the same as I am now about how the two party system has crippled us. The party I am a member of isn't even worth bothering with due to their limited fanbase. I'd also be sort of rooting for Obama, though I'm undereducated on all the candidates, due to crushing depression regarding politics and the futility of human history/future.

scaeagles 12-29-2007 09:22 PM

To me, tax and spend big government is not conservatism. This is how I see Huckabee. Failing to put one of the only constitutionally mandated requirements of the federal government, to protect and defend the the borders of the US, also disqualifies one from being a conservative. Limiting free speech (which is how I view campaign finance reform) disqualifies one as a conservative.

Strangler Lewis 12-29-2007 10:53 PM

I'd vote for Richardson because I've got money on him.

Cadaverous Pallor 12-29-2007 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles (Post 182035)
To me, tax and spend big government is not conservatism. This is how I see Huckabee. Failing to put one of the only constitutionally mandated requirements of the federal government, to protect and defend the the borders of the US, also disqualifies one from being a conservative. Limiting free speech (which is how I view campaign finance reform) disqualifies one as a conservative.

I would like to hear the names of all these conservatives who do not "tax and spend" on programs of their own choosing. Did all the conservatives who were involved in congress over the years but did not build walls on our borders disqualify themselves? As for free speech....man, I don't even know where to start with that one.

sleepyjeff 12-30-2007 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Strangler Lewis (Post 182055)
I'd vote for Richardson because I've got money on him.


Me too.....I've 350 to 1 odds and $20 that could turn into $7,000 if he wins the whole thing:D

Yeah, I know.....I threw $20 away:blush:


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